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ox1443 06-03-2008 10:32 AM

Good All Around Gun ,From Antelope To Moose
 
My brother is on a search for a new rifle but has no clue on what caliber to pick, Some people have told him 30/06 i would have to agree on that but if u shoot a antelope at 200-300 yards with an 06 it will blow them to nothing kind of like shooting a squirrel with a 270,..[8D], He also was looking at a 270 WSM, He already has a 308 Win, But wants somthing with some more juice then that, Any Suggestions, Thanxs


Jaymie

RugerM77.270 06-03-2008 11:47 AM

RE: Good All Around Gun ,From Antelope To Moose
 
The 30-06 will be a good choice actually. He just doens't need to use the same load and bullet for antelope that he uses for elk. He can get a 150 gr. bullet for antelope and deer then 180s for the bigger stuff. If he can get handloads he can even get 130 grain bullets.

bronko22000 06-03-2008 12:53 PM

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I would say anything in the 270 - 30-06 range would be good. The critical factor for heavier game like moose is bullet selection and shot placement/selection. I have 2 friends that use the '06 for everything. I tease them a lot but its all in fun. They always seem to get the job done. One recently took a 450 lb grizzly at 200 yds with one 180 gr bullet.


bigbulls 06-03-2008 01:00 PM

RE: Good All Around Gun ,From Antelope To Moose
 

but if u shoot a antelope at 200-300 yards with an 06 it will blow them to nothing kind of like shooting a squirrel with a 270,..[8D]
That's funny right there.

.270, .280, or 30-06would all be excelent choices.

FastShootingCarts 06-03-2008 01:39 PM

RE: Good All Around Gun ,From Antelope To Moose
 

ORIGINAL: ox1443

He already has a 308 Win, But wants somthing with some more juice then that, Any Suggestions, Thanxs



.300 Winchester Mag.

JeffS 06-03-2008 03:05 PM

RE: Good All Around Gun ,From Antelope To Moose
 
He already has a good one for what he wants but he wants something a little bigger a 30-06 is a good choice since you can shoot a little heavier bullet.

idunno 06-03-2008 03:36 PM

RE: Good All Around Gun ,From Antelope To Moose
 
I'd probably go with 7mm or300 Remington Ultra Mag. Remington now makes power level ammunition that loads 3 different power levels in one caliber. It's an idea if you don't reload. http://www.remington.com/products/ammunition/centerfire/power_level.asp Of course I would shoot all 3 to make sure they shoot as advertised.

FastShootingCarts 06-03-2008 04:18 PM

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ORIGINAL: JeffS

He already has a good one for what he wants but he wants something a little bigger a 30-06 is a good choice since you can shoot a little heavier bullet.
A .308 Win. and .30-06 gov't are so close ballistically, it's not even worth getting another Rifle.

goatbrother 06-03-2008 05:45 PM

RE: Good All Around Gun ,From Antelope To Moose
 
338 Win Mag, it will take anything on this continent.

handloader1 06-03-2008 05:47 PM

RE: Good All Around Gun ,From Antelope To Moose
 
.300 Mag. Good luck.

salukipv1 06-03-2008 06:59 PM

RE: Good All Around Gun ,From Antelope To Moose
 
.264 Win. Mag.(if you don't handload)

6.5-284 (if you handload)

6.5 WSM

homers brother 06-03-2008 07:28 PM

RE: Good All Around Gun ,From Antelope To Moose
 
ox,

Seems you ask this kind of question a lot. But ....

A .30-06 will NOT blow an antelope "to nothing" at the ranges you're speaking of. If you're looking for ONE rifle to hunt species from antelope to moose, it'd be awfully hard to beat the .30-06. It may be more than what's needed to kill an antelope, and while it doesn't have the sex appeal of the magnums, will certainly do in a moose.

I'd consider the .270 Win the minimum moose cartridge, anything above .30-06 on antelope is just making noise and considerably more than what it takes to handle one.

Dalebow 06-03-2008 09:12 PM

RE: Good All Around Gun ,From Antelope To Moose
 
I guess Iam missing something, a 308 is what snipers use a lot, easy to dope and lightloads for deer/goat game and 165/180's for elk and bear.....BUT I can understand wanting a new gun as we all have some rounds that duplicate one another......cant have too many guns:D

EKM 06-03-2008 09:48 PM

RE: Good All Around Gun ,From Antelope To Moose
 
Not that hard to read....


"....more juice than a 308..."
300 Mag, take your pick.... Win, WSM, Weatherby, or RUM

oldelkhunter 06-04-2008 06:35 AM

RE: Good All Around Gun ,From Antelope To Moose
 
7WSM or 300 wsm

Rammer 06-04-2008 01:44 PM

RE: Good All Around Gun ,From Antelope To Moose
 
7mm Rem Mag.

fariswm 06-04-2008 05:32 PM

RE: Good All Around Gun ,From Antelope To Moose
 
Unless you handload, and then the options are endless, I would stick with .270, 280, 30-06 or 7mm Rem Mag. Bullet weights in factory ammo and ammo availability with moderate recoil and plenty of energy on reasonable shots make these four hard to beat for North American game- excluding big bears.

A11en 06-04-2008 05:41 PM

RE: Good All Around Gun ,From Antelope To Moose
 
I agree with the earlier comment - the.30-06 is too close to the .308 ballistically. I'd recommend a .300 WSM. The 150gr for pronghorn, a 180gr for elk/ moose, or the 165 gr for everything

thehart_cwc 06-05-2008 01:18 PM

RE: Good All Around Gun ,From Antelope To Moose
 
7mm Rem Mag

harter66 06-07-2008 10:09 AM

RE: Good All Around Gun ,From Antelope To Moose
 
The Sweds swear by the 6.5x55 for moose not really the new V-rod you were looking for I'm sure . Me I'm an 30-06' guy and I have a 308 too . With those 2 as a handloader you have options from 45 -250 grain bullets commercially if you shop around a little 100-200 aren't too hard to find .

If ya just have to have a new gun ( and whom doesn't want 1 ) I would be shopping a 338 win or a 35 Whelen . The Whelen for the above 06' excuse . Also both are nicely suited to the big bears known to freqent Moose and big elk country .

IL-Cornfed 06-07-2008 03:18 PM

RE: Good All Around Gun ,From Antelope To Moose
 
I'd buy a T/C Encore Pro Hunter chambered in 7mm Mag or .300 would be my choice

bows_and_arrows 06-07-2008 04:15 PM

RE: Good All Around Gun ,From Antelope To Moose
 
i shoot a 270 wsm, will take any animal in north america but if your shots are past 300 the 300 wsm or 7mm mag are good choices but they all can damage alot of meat at short range. if you can reload try the 6.5 coyote (8mm mauser necked down to 6.5) or the 6.5 timberwolf (300 win mag necked down to 6.5)

scott26 06-07-2008 09:18 PM

RE: Good All Around Gun ,From Antelope To Moose
 
I have used my 308 to kill nearly every game animal I have taken. (Admitably not as much as some others) It worked very well on an 90lb doe in KY as well as a 765lb bull moose in northern Vermont, both were one shot and deal sealed. For what its worth I would stick with the 308.

Scott

Edcyclopedia 06-08-2008 05:22 AM

RE: Good All Around Gun ,From Antelope To Moose
 
7mm mag, just a little more than a .270 for the longer distances and it shoots a little heavier grain bullet for the bigger stuff.
I don't own one, but the charts look pretty good.
I have a .270 and a .30-06 for the same reasons your looking for, just like guns and if I had my choice I'd have one of everything...

8mm/06 06-08-2008 12:57 PM

RE: Good All Around Gun ,From Antelope To Moose
 
300 Win Mag, 300 WSM, 9.3 x 62

wyotimberghost 06-08-2008 02:04 PM

RE: Good All Around Gun ,From Antelope To Moose
 
Moose aren't that tough. I'd say 7mm Rem Mag or 300 Win Mag.

RWK 06-09-2008 08:45 PM

RE: Good All Around Gun ,From Antelope To Moose
 
30-06
7mm
308
270

jaybird2 06-09-2008 10:01 PM

RE: Good All Around Gun ,From Antelope To Moose
 
Tell him stick with his 308 and buy some 150 gr hornady sst lightmags,I use the this year and was very impressed. 3000 fps thats faster then a 30-06 and is very devisting on moose also

Scott Gags 06-10-2008 02:33 PM

RE: Good All Around Gun ,From Antelope To Moose
 
I am a 30-06 fan but it is too close balistically to the 308. I would buy 270WSM or 300 WSM or stick with the 308 and use this for the moose.

http://www.doubletapammo.com/php/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=21_52&products_id=206

Point blank range is still over 250 yards and KE levels are over 2000 LBS at 300 yds. It would have no problem taking out a moose to 300 yds.

johnwayne 06-17-2008 11:01 AM

RE: Good All Around Gun ,From Antelope To Moose
 
I agree that the .308 is fine for use on moose and elk but if you want to get another rifle I would get one in a higher power level such as a .300 or 338 mag. If you are recoil sensative a .338-06 or .35whelen would work.

Hurricanespg 06-17-2008 10:20 PM

RE: Good All Around Gun ,From Antelope To Moose
 
I am partial to the 30-06. Just use lighter bullets for smaller game, and larger bullets for bigger game. Good luck.

vaughnm 06-18-2008 07:33 AM

RE: Good All Around Gun ,From Antelope To Moose
 
The 308 should be able to handle the job but if he wants something that carries a little farther and packs a little more punch go withthe7mm Rem Mag.

cjwink 06-18-2008 09:56 AM

RE: Good All Around Gun ,From Antelope To Moose
 
Since he has a 308 I would go with something other than the 30 cal round. Either go smaller (for lopes/deer sized game) say 243? or go bigger like a 338..

M77man 06-18-2008 03:02 PM

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7mm Rem Mag in 160 grains knocks em' deader than dead.


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