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bobfm10350 03-24-2008 04:40 PM

Urgent Gun Problem
 
Ok heres the situation, my savage 30-06 has a live round stuck in it and it wont eject because the action is stuck. While at the range i fed the round in then the bolt would not lock down. So i tried pulling it back andthen i came to the conclusion that it was stuck.Then I tried hitting it w/a mallet and it wouldnt budge.
Plz Help
-Deric

Texasyukon 03-24-2008 05:13 PM

RE: Urgent Gun Problem
 
I dont know if i would hit it with anything else just to be safe. Call any gun range (some handgun ones are still open) and see what they recomend. I am pretty sure that they are going to tell you to take it to a gunsmith tomorrow to get it removed.

salukipv1 03-24-2008 05:55 PM

RE: Urgent Gun Problem
 
shoot it......or keep working the bolt...eject it.

salukipv1 03-24-2008 05:56 PM

RE: Urgent Gun Problem
 
use something to tap it from the barrel end.....though if that goes off, you may want to watch out....

#40Fan 03-24-2008 06:07 PM

RE: Urgent Gun Problem
 
How hard did you hit it? Hit it GOOD!! If you break the handle, it is a cheap fix, but I doubt if you will.

Were you shooting handloads?

robbcayman 03-24-2008 06:38 PM

RE: Urgent Gun Problem
 
I would pay the small fee and take it to a gunsmith. Plus, he can probably tell you why it got stuck.

Bocajnala 03-24-2008 06:56 PM

RE: Urgent Gun Problem
 
don't ever hit your gun with a mallet.

#40Fan 03-24-2008 07:38 PM

RE: Urgent Gun Problem
 
It won't hurt it to hit the bolt handle with a mallet. If you get the bolt opened and the round is still stuck in the chamber, get a 1/4" dowl and knock it out.

goatbrother 03-24-2008 07:53 PM

RE: Urgent Gun Problem
 
But what if the trigger goes off when you are hitting it with the mallet????? Be carefull there. Safest to just take it to a smith.

HEAD0001 03-24-2008 07:55 PM

RE: Urgent Gun Problem
 
Take the barreled action off the stock and take the scope off the rifle. Soak the chamber in WD 40-or some other solvent to make the powder inert, and lubricate the action. Then try the above recommendations. Tom.

SJAdventures 03-24-2008 09:11 PM

RE: Urgent Gun Problem
 
I think I would take it to a smith. You might end up doing something you can't take back.

salukipv1 03-24-2008 09:22 PM

RE: Urgent Gun Problem
 
I once thought my bolt twisted and I tried like heck to get it to slide back into the rifle.....then I found out I was trying to twist something that wasn't meant to twist, luckily I was only using my own strength, not a wrench etc....then I finessed it and it went right in.

So ya maybe step back and take another look at it, maybe the safetys on and it wont open etc.....something odd/unique like that, you really shouldnt have to muscle something on a rifle, even in a jam/stuck round, can you fire the round?



Briman 03-24-2008 09:24 PM

RE: Urgent Gun Problem
 
Stick it in the freezer overnight then try again.

savage3006 03-25-2008 03:57 AM

RE: Urgent Gun Problem
 
The first thing I would do is to take out the scope and the scope mount. On the Savage, if the screws for the mount are a bit too long, they will hit the bolt. Take that out and see if it helps. It happens too me once, I mounted my scope and sure enough I could not close the bolt. Other than that I cannot see anything else that would get the bolt stuck.

eldeguello 03-25-2008 06:16 AM

RE: Urgent Gun Problem
 

ORIGINAL: bobfm10350

Ok heres the situation, my savage 30-06 has a live round stuck in it and it wont eject because the action is stuck. While at the range i fed the round in then the bolt would not lock down. So i tried pulling it back andthen i came to the conclusion that it was stuck.Then I tried hitting it w/a mallet and it wouldnt budge.
Plz Help
-Deric
I believe the bolt might close on it if you remove the extractor from the bolt. Then you can safely fire it at the range or into a soft piece of earth. Then the fired case can be knocked out with a cleaning rod. IF the round is stuck partially out of fully being chambered so the bolt cannot be closed even w/o the extractor in place, TAKE IT TO A GUNSMITH for removal-DO NOT TRY TO HAMMER IT OUT! There have been cases in which such treatment caused the round to fire with the bolt open, and the BRASS CASE became a dangerous projectile!

Pawildman 03-25-2008 12:54 PM

RE: Urgent Gun Problem
 

ORIGINAL: salukipv1

use something to tap it from the barrel end.....though if that goes off, you may want to watch out....
Wow.

bigcountry 03-25-2008 01:36 PM

RE: Urgent Gun Problem
 

ORIGINAL: Pawildman


ORIGINAL: salukipv1

use something to tap it from the barrel end.....though if that goes off, you may want to watch out....
Wow.
You know I said wow a whole bunch while going thru this thread.



BigJ71 03-25-2008 01:39 PM

RE: Urgent Gun Problem
 

ORIGINAL: savage3006

The first thing I would do is to take out the scope and the scope mount. On the Savage, if the screws for the mount are a bit too long, they will hit the bolt. Take that out and see if it helps. It happens too me once, I mounted my scope and sure enough I could not close the bolt. Other than that I cannot see anything else that would get the bolt stuck.
I've seen this as well, I don't know why but the receiver holes are drilled all the way through (at least it is on my Savage) and it's right where the bolt lug engages so you don't notice it until you try to close/open the bot. Make sure it's not binding on the screw.

Good luck and let us know what the culprit is when you get it unstuck.

BigJ71 03-25-2008 01:41 PM

RE: Urgent Gun Problem
 

ORIGINAL: bigcountry


ORIGINAL: Pawildman


ORIGINAL: salukipv1

use something to tap it from the barrel end.....though if that goes off, you may want to watch out....
Wow.
You know I said wow a whole bunch while going thru this thread.


Yeah....not a good idea to start tapping on a live round stuck in a chamber...especially from the business end!

8mm/06 03-25-2008 02:09 PM

RE: Urgent Gun Problem
 
Gunsmith ... for a bunch of reasons, chiefly b/c you seem to be trying to plod your way through this problem and aren't sure about the problem. For that safety reason alone you should pay a professional and learn as much as you can from the experience. Would hate to see you learn a tragic lesson.

bronko22000 03-25-2008 03:30 PM

RE: Urgent Gun Problem
 
Same thing happened to my friend's Savage when he tried to chamber one of my rounds from my rifle that I had only neck size. Apparently my chamber was larger than his. (genetics I guess) If your bolt is in the upmost position you can rapthe bolt handle with a rubber mallet.Start out lightly and increase taps until the bolt releases. It shoudl open and hopefully draw out the round.But for the love of God DO NOT TRY TO PUT ANYTHING DOWN THE BARREL AND TRY TO KNOCK IT OUT.

kelbro 03-25-2008 04:03 PM

RE: Urgent Gun Problem
 
I have come to the conclusion that there are some things that you just shouldn't ask for advice on an internet forum. The more I read the answers to some of these posts, the more convinced I am that some people just don't need to be around firearms.

bobfm10350 03-25-2008 04:23 PM

RE: Urgent Gun Problem
 

ORIGINAL: kelbro

I have come to the conclusion that there are some things that you just shouldn't ask for advice on an internet forum. The more I read the answers to some of these posts, the more convinced I am that some people just don't need to be around firearms.
haha yea i thought that too

So i tuck the scope off and everything tried it like that still didnt work. Yes it was a reloaded round probably too long in oal.Im almost certain that the bolt handle is broken already but i dont really care about that. The bolt it about 1/2 a centimeter back and all the way up. I have a trigger lock on it right now and im looking into a gunsmith. If anyone else has some sugestions i'd love your help.(as long as the're practical)

Thank you
-Deric

jeepkid 03-25-2008 04:43 PM

RE: Urgent Gun Problem
 

ORIGINAL: bobfm10350


ORIGINAL: kelbro

I have come to the conclusion that there are some things that you just shouldn't ask for advice on an internet forum. The more I read the answers to some of these posts, the more convinced I am that some people just don't need to be around firearms.
haha yea i thought that too

So i tuck the scope off and everything tried it like that still didnt work. Yes it was a reloaded round probably too long in oal.Im almost certain that the bolt handle is broken already but i dont really care about that. The bolt it about 1/2 a centimeter back and all the way up. I have a trigger lock on it right now and im looking into a gunsmith. If anyone else has some sugestions i'd love your help.(as long as the're practical)

Thank you
-Deric
So it only has to go straight back? I can't see how you can't pull it back, opening it should have been the hardest part...??


Can you unthread the barrel? Savages are suppose to be easy to do...

Ruger-Redhawk 03-26-2008 12:04 PM

RE: Urgent Gun Problem
 
Are you sure you tried to chamber the right cartridge? Don't take chances it's not worth it. Take it to a gunsmith. In the long run it will be cheaper taking it to him then killing yourself trying to save a couple bucks.This could get very dangerious if you don't know what you're doing.

Pawildman 03-26-2008 04:25 PM

RE: Urgent Gun Problem
 

ORIGINAL: bigcountry


ORIGINAL: Pawildman


ORIGINAL: salukipv1

use something to tap it from the barrel end.....though if that goes off, you may want to watch out....
Wow.
You know I said wow a whole bunch while going thru this thread.


Yep... I certainlly do.... And I'm sure most of us understand.....

eldeguello 03-27-2008 05:19 AM

RE: Urgent Gun Problem
 
Savage barrels are easily removed and reinstalled. It is easiest to remove a round stuck partially into the chamber by removing the barrel first. This is a job for a gunsmith with a Savage barrel nut wrench and a set ofheadspace gauges.

mossberghunter93 03-27-2008 02:11 PM

RE: Urgent Gun Problem
 
u r in deep ****


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