For a while I was thinking about getting a fast 30 caliber, but now I am interested in the 416 Remington for a new gun I intend to get in the next couple of months. The problem is, I have looked around and can' t find any factory rifles chambered in 416 Remington. Does anybody know of any?

There' s quite a bit of difference between a fast .30 and a 416 Remington. If you were thinking about a 30, what changed your mind to jump up to a 416? What types of critters will be on the hurtin end of that bad boy?

Hmm, good question Ranger, kind of wondered about that myself.

Hmm, can' t find manufacturer here in USA that sells the 416 RemMag new......

try R-E-M-I-N-G-T-O-N (Model 700 Safari)
at www.remington.com

try W-I-N-C-H-E-S-T-E-R (Model 70 Classic Safari Express)
at www.winchester.com

Something doesn' t add up here,

EKM

Did you have any luck on those websites?

EKM

TUSSEY....IT' S CLEAR THAT YOU HAVEN' T LOOKED VERY HARD.....

I looked on the Winchester site, and sure enough it was there. I' m a bit suprised Remington didn' t have one. I did look at Marlin, Sako, and Savage. For some reason, Winchester didn' t come to mind. My reasoning... Well, first of all, I like big guns with lots of power. I was looking around the internet for some information on comparing the wound channels of bullets, and here is the url for an interesting article :
http://civic.bev.net/shawnee/digress.html
that made me begin to doubt the theory of hydrostatic shock and energy dumping. Since those are the arguments generally placed behind lighter, faster bullets, it seemed logical to me to question the validity of the shock of that type of bullet. So I started looking up in caliber. I picked the 416 because it is still reasonably flat shooting, with some bullets of high ballistic coefficient, with sectional densities somewhat higher than those available for a 375 with not too dissimilar trajectory. The 458 has too curved a trajectory for North American Hunting. A 416 could be comfortably used on any game animal, anywhere. The Remington round is available in a factory rifle, so would be less expensive than the Weatherby round. I still can' t believe I didn' t think to look on Winchester' s site...

VAPODOG,
By the way, I looked plenty hard. Just not in the right places

Tussey- I would never fault a guy for using a big gun even if he didn' t need it. It' s always better to use way more gun than to little a gun. Sometimes it' s just plain FUN using a big gun.

That being said, I think your getting a little caught up in all the technical aspects of hydrostatic shock, sectional densities, balistic coeffecients, etc. Belive me, if you stare at that stuff long enough, you can convince yourself of almost anything. The fact is, the .375 H+H is more than qualified for anything in North America. You could also make the argument that the .338 Win Mag is a great all around choice if your never going to hunt coastal grizzlies.

If you just want the Big gun, I would say go for the .416. However, if your just basing your decision on stats, you may be doing yourself a disservice. It doesn' t matter if that animal was killed by a .416 Rem, .375,.338, or a fast .30, the fact is it' s just as dead