25-06 and its effectiveness on Deer
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RE: 25-06 and its effectiveness on Deer
ORIGINAL: oldelkhunter
Lot's of Koolaid drinkers there as well I see and to think I almost bought one a few months ago. Did you like all the Sako inferences? Sako owns the company and supplies them with the barrels. That is about it.
Speaking of BS, I think you may get a kick out of this thread oldelk....
#34
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RE: 25-06 and its effectiveness on Deer
The round is adequate for deer. But definitely not nominal. If you are not recoil shy then why shoot the son when you can shoot the dad(30-06). The recoil from a hot 120 grain pill is not going to be very different than a load from a 150 grain 30-06. There is more recoil difference form the type of firearm used, rather than the difference between the caliber's.
IMO the better cartridge is the 260 Remington. It is better because it is a short action round, so for a hunting rifle you can carry a lighter rifle. Since the 25-06 is still a long action-hence heavier rifle.
Recoil is a function of rifle design, rifle weight, and whether it is ported or not. A heavier cartridge can have less recoil in the properly prepared rifle. So why handicap yourself with a long action rifle when a 30-06 clearly does a better job.
Also with the heavier cartridges there is no need to spend ridiculous amounts of money on "A Frame" bullets. Just to shoot a deer. Not necessary.
I hope no one brings up the trajectory bit. You either know your rifle and how to shoot it, or you do not. a few inches of drop are not going to make a big difference. A 165 grain bullet in a 30-06 is deadly on deer with no hold over or under out to 300 yards. If you shoot past 300 yards then you better know your rifle. And if you are shooting over 300 yards then I would definitely recommend the heavier bullets. Tom.
IMO the better cartridge is the 260 Remington. It is better because it is a short action round, so for a hunting rifle you can carry a lighter rifle. Since the 25-06 is still a long action-hence heavier rifle.
Recoil is a function of rifle design, rifle weight, and whether it is ported or not. A heavier cartridge can have less recoil in the properly prepared rifle. So why handicap yourself with a long action rifle when a 30-06 clearly does a better job.
Also with the heavier cartridges there is no need to spend ridiculous amounts of money on "A Frame" bullets. Just to shoot a deer. Not necessary.
I hope no one brings up the trajectory bit. You either know your rifle and how to shoot it, or you do not. a few inches of drop are not going to make a big difference. A 165 grain bullet in a 30-06 is deadly on deer with no hold over or under out to 300 yards. If you shoot past 300 yards then you better know your rifle. And if you are shooting over 300 yards then I would definitely recommend the heavier bullets. Tom.
#35
RE: 25-06 and its effectiveness on Deer
ORIGINAL: HEAD0001
I hope no one brings up the trajectory bit. You either know your rifle and how to shoot it, or you do not. a few inches of drop are not going to make a big difference. A 165 grain bullet in a 30-06 is deadly on deer with no hold over or under out to 300 yards. If you shoot past 300 yards then you better know your rifle. And if you are shooting over 300 yards then I would definitely recommend the heavier bullets. Tom.
I hope no one brings up the trajectory bit. You either know your rifle and how to shoot it, or you do not. a few inches of drop are not going to make a big difference. A 165 grain bullet in a 30-06 is deadly on deer with no hold over or under out to 300 yards. If you shoot past 300 yards then you better know your rifle. And if you are shooting over 300 yards then I would definitely recommend the heavier bullets. Tom.
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RE: 25-06 and its effectiveness on Deer
The round is adequate for deer. But definitely not nominal. If you are not recoil shy then why shoot the son when you can shoot the dad(30-06). The recoil from a hot 120 grain pill is not going to be very different than a load from a 150 grain 30-06. There is more recoil difference form the type of firearm used, rather than the difference between the caliber's.
We are going to have toagree to disagree there ...I can't even fathom how light the recoil is on a 25-06 . My longest 2 shots are 200 yards and 170 yards on a whitetail deer.I'll bet most average 30 yards or even less as I am predominately a woods hunter .My longest shot on a mule deer was 350 yards. It's also a dual duty coyote rifle and I can't imagine hunting coyotes with a 30-06
#37
RE: 25-06 and its effectiveness on Deer
Hunting coyotes with 30/06?? What's hard to believe about that? Tell me all the animals that haven't been hunted successfully by the 30/06? I've shot several coyotes with /06...some at considerable range. Loaded with some of the lighter bullets, the /06 is both fast and flat...favored requirements of a coyote rifle. And Lord knows the /06 is deadly when it arrives. This is something the lighter and more traditional varmint rifles can't always boast.
I never use the word "can't" in a sentence with 30/06. It's the poster child for the "Can Do" rifle.
I never use the word "can't" in a sentence with 30/06. It's the poster child for the "Can Do" rifle.
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RE: 25-06 and its effectiveness on Deer
ORIGINAL: oldelkhunter
We are going to have toagree to disagree there ...I can't even fathom how light the recoil is on a 25-06 . My longest 2 shots are 200 yards and 170 yards on a whitetail deer.I'll bet most average 30 yards or even less as I am predominately a woods hunter .My longest shot on a mule deer was 350 yards. It's also a dual duty coyote rifle and I can't imagine hunting coyotes with a 30-06
The round is adequate for deer. But definitely not nominal. If you are not recoil shy then why shoot the son when you can shoot the dad(30-06). The recoil from a hot 120 grain pill is not going to be very different than a load from a 150 grain 30-06. There is more recoil difference form the type of firearm used, rather than the difference between the caliber's.
We are going to have toagree to disagree there ...I can't even fathom how light the recoil is on a 25-06 . My longest 2 shots are 200 yards and 170 yards on a whitetail deer.I'll bet most average 30 yards or even less as I am predominately a woods hunter .My longest shot on a mule deer was 350 yards. It's also a dual duty coyote rifle and I can't imagine hunting coyotes with a 30-06
If we did not disagree then it would not be any fun. I did not even mention the 125 grain pill in the 30-06. And I just do not believe there is a lot of recoil difference, especially if you shoot the 125 from the 30-06, and the 120 grain pill in the 25-06.
And as far as Coyote's is concerned, I thought the post was about deer??? And I would also think that the 30-06 is a better pelt rifle??? If compared to the 25-06. I know a few pelt hunter's who like the larger caliber's for collecting pelt's. I would think a 25-06 would tear a pelt up??? Tom.
#39
RE: 25-06 and its effectiveness on Deer
The 2506 is a great double duty rifle for coyotes and deer. Personally wouldn't change itor feel out done by the3006.
As far as the 3006 you may or may not get the 125 to shoot worth a damn in your rifle. Just b/c they offer the bullet doesn't mean you can use it. I know a lot of 3006 lovers here and everywhere. WhileI agree it's a good cartridge its not a love mine and I see no need to ever own another frankly. Thanks for the case but I'll neck it differently .
As far as the 3006 you may or may not get the 125 to shoot worth a damn in your rifle. Just b/c they offer the bullet doesn't mean you can use it. I know a lot of 3006 lovers here and everywhere. WhileI agree it's a good cartridge its not a love mine and I see no need to ever own another frankly. Thanks for the case but I'll neck it differently .
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RE: 25-06 and its effectiveness on Deer
Hunting coyotes with 30/06?? What's hard to believe about that? Tell me all the animals that haven't been hunted successfully by the 30/06? I've shot several coyotes with /06...some at considerable range. Loaded with some of the lighter bullets, the /06 is both fast and flat...favored requirements of a coyote rifle. And Lord knows the /06 is deadly when it arrives. This is something the lighter and more traditional varmint rifles can't always boast.