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iloveto4x4 02-23-2008 04:27 PM

Long range yote rifle?
 
I'm looking for input on a long range yote rifle. We've got them trained around here so they stay out 500-700 yrds and no amount of calling will bring them in. We're thinking that a 7mm RM with 168gr matchkings would be a good setup. Any input on this would be greatly appreciated.

salukipv1 02-23-2008 04:51 PM

RE: Long range yote rifle?
 
haha what? geez, 7mm rem mag?

I think .22-250 .220 swift, at those distances I'd say the .220 would be a clear winner out of any .223.

Or a .243 / 6mm with 55gr, or 25.06 with light bullets, though .257 wby with 87gr woudl be awesome I think at 500-700 yds if not further.....I think 7mm 168gr is a tad huge!

.270 w/100gr might be awesome, or even 130gr.

both of the .22's mentioned will do 500yds no prob on a coyote.

jeepkid 02-23-2008 05:28 PM

RE: Long range yote rifle?
 
Fast twist .223 or a .243 is all you need. A 7mm RM is WAY overkill for yotes at that range...

gunnermhr 02-23-2008 06:55 PM

RE: Long range yote rifle?
 
500 to 700 yards? although a 220 swift is my favorite varmint cartridge I would shy away from it at those distances. 6MM bullet has a higher BC and therfore you wont have as much wind deflection. If it were a custom 220 with a very fast twist say 7.5 or 8 that could handle heavy bullets I think it would then be the ultimate. I've killed a lot of ground hogs at 500 yards with a 220 but after500 yardsthe numbers are considerably less. Check all the ballistics at www.biggameinfo.com Play with the numbers. 6MM is the hot cartridge for 600 yard matches. There is a reason for that.:D

stalkingbear 02-23-2008 07:15 PM

RE: Long range yote rifle?
 
I understand your reasoning about using bigger cartridges on extremely long range due to better wind bucking ability. The thing is,most of the best 6mm/.25 cartridges for long range are wildcats. In factory form,it's hard to beat 25/06,6.5mmx284,and the various overbore 7mm and .30 magnums. Just hor far are you willing to go for ultra long range rig? Does it HAVE to be a factory cartridge or can it be a wildcat or something along the line of allen magnums or lazzeroni?

kdvollmer 02-23-2008 10:08 PM

RE: Long range yote rifle?
 
If you are not going to keep the pelts, or I should say sell them, and don't mind the big hole, then have at it with the 7mm. Though I would agree that there are better choices.

ElkNutz 02-24-2008 08:42 AM

RE: Long range yote rifle?
 
My choice would be a 25.06 with 75 gr VMax or HP (something along those lines)with a good BC. I have a 5x20x50 AO on mine which I built for a long range gun but since use it for antelope. It does a great job!

DANTHEHUNTER 02-25-2008 06:22 AM

RE: Long range yote rifle?
 
I would have to say a .220 swift or a .243/6mm,those have served me well.I am starting to like a .270wsm It is getting my attention.

hartshot101 02-25-2008 06:57 AM

RE: Long range yote rifle?
 
yeah i think ud be better off with a 25-06, 22-250, or my fav the .204 ruger. the .204's bullet is a tad light but with the right wind and adjustments is a yote geter.

CZ2506 02-25-2008 09:54 AM

RE: Long range yote rifle?
 
I've had pretty good luck (LUCK being the primary component according to my shooting buddy) on woodchuckswith my 25-06 at 500+. I use 100gr Nosler BT's. You're gonna want a good rangefinder and a tactical scope. Bullet drop from 500 to 700 is measured in feet not inches.

cjwink 02-25-2008 11:20 AM

RE: Long range yote rifle?
 
22-250 would be what I would go with..

iloveto4x4 02-25-2008 05:11 PM

RE: Long range yote rifle?
 
Thanks for all the input guys. We're wanting to stick to factory chamberings on this rig. I've looked at the 6mm Rem. and it looks good on paper, but I can't anybody that's offering it ina factory rifle. If there anybody that offers the 6mm Rem. in a factory rifle? We like the high BC of the 7mm bullets and don't think that at those ranges it'll tear them up too bad.

coyote#68 02-25-2008 09:46 PM

RE: Long range yote rifle?
 
you should look at the 243 its almost as good as the 6mm,you can shoot the hornady 58grain V-max at around 3760 fps and kill coyotes at those distances.If you dont reload there is a bunch of different factory loads from 55 grains to 100 grains.The 25-06 would be another good choice this is another good long range caliber.I myself would stay away from 22 calibers for this kind of range due to the simple fact that you will need a heavier bullet to maintain energy at 500+yards.I dont mean to insult any ones 204's or the well respected 220 swift but bullet weight needs to be 55 grains or more for this range on a possible 40lb or more animal.Many people have killed them at this distance with the 20's and 22's,but they won't be as capable of a killer as the 6mm/243 or larger would be,I read earlier that you were thinking about using the 7mm mag,I'm sure that you can kill them as far as you can hit them with that,they might have a little fur damage,on what fur thats left.For the most bullet selection the 243 has more than the 25-06 or 6mm combined if you dont reload.This is only my opinion,others may disagree.PS the 58 V-max shoots very good in both of my guns,savage110,remington 700,very accurate.good luck!

ox1443 02-26-2008 03:19 PM

RE: Long range yote rifle?
 
308 Win good gun with 150 Winchest silver tips

iloveto4x4 03-17-2008 12:11 AM

RE: Long range yote rifle?
 
We have 22-250s and 223s that we can use out to 4-500yrds. My hunting partner has a 25-06 and a 7mm that he's playing with on 5-700yrd targets. I've been looking at ballistics charts and have a handful of cartridges that look like they'd make awesome yote killers. 260 Rem, 280 Rem, and 264 WM. look pretty good on paper. Any input on them?

oldelkhunter 03-17-2008 05:58 AM

RE: Long range yote rifle?
 
nothing less then a 338/378 would work on something like that

iloveto4x4 03-17-2008 03:15 PM

RE: Long range yote rifle?
 

ORIGINAL: oldelkhunter

nothing less then a 338/378 would work on something like that
Why don't I just call up an air strike or artillery barrage?

I asked for input on here because I know alot of you guys either have or have had some of these calibers and that some of you do long range shooting. I personally feel that the 22s run out of steam too quickly at long ranges. Sure they're fine for punching holes in paper that far away, but I like quick, clean kills on critters. Please reserve input for serious comments only. I don't want to pick them up with a sponge and sandwich bag, but I don't want to just wound them either.

Rammer 03-17-2008 04:39 PM

RE: Long range yote rifle?
 
I like my 243 for that kinda shooting with 60gr Sierra HPs.

jeepkid 03-17-2008 04:47 PM

RE: Long range yote rifle?
 

ORIGINAL: iloveto4x4


ORIGINAL: oldelkhunter

nothing less then a 338/378 would work on something like that
Why don't I just call up an air strike or artillery barrage?

I asked for input on here because I know alot of you guys either have or have had some of these calibers and that some of you do long range shooting. I personally feel that the 22s run out of steam too quickly at long ranges. Sure they're fine for punching holes in paper that far away, but I like quick, clean kills on critters. Please reserve input for serious comments only. I don't want to pick them up with a sponge and sandwich bag, but I don't want to just wound them either.
Are you looking to buy another rifle? Or, just for us to say to use the 7mm rem mag?

The 7mm is way overkill for yotes at that distance, sure it would work great. But, I'm guessing its not a custom LR rifle, so hitting yotes at that distance and seeing your hits at that distance will be a lot harder with the 7mm.

Will you be dialing or using a custom reticle?

A fast twist 22-250 would be awesome, cheaper to shoot, you can see your hits, and plenty of power for yotes.

If you just really want to use your 7mm, then try the Sierras or the Bergers and figure your drops and wind drift and have fun.

Pavomesa 03-17-2008 05:18 PM

RE: Long range yote rifle?
 
Precious few better off the shelf long range rifles than a 270 Win. The best Coyote hunter I ever knew used one w/130 gr bullets.

Sniper151 03-17-2008 07:12 PM

RE: Long range yote rifle?
 
6mm Rem. with 80 gr. HP bullet.

iloveto4x4 03-17-2008 07:33 PM

RE: Long range yote rifle?
 

ORIGINAL: jeepkid


ORIGINAL: iloveto4x4


ORIGINAL: oldelkhunter

nothing less then a 338/378 would work on something like that
Why don't I just call up an air strike or artillery barrage?

I asked for input on here because I know alot of you guys either have or have had some of these calibers and that some of you do long range shooting. I personally feel that the 22s run out of steam too quickly at long ranges. Sure they're fine for punching holes in paper that far away, but I like quick, clean kills on critters. Please reserve input for serious comments only. I don't want to pick them up with a sponge and sandwich bag, but I don't want to just wound them either.
Are you looking to buy another rifle? Or, just for us to say to use the 7mm rem mag?

The 7mm is way overkill for yotes at that distance, sure it would work great. But, I'm guessing its not a custom LR rifle, so hitting yotes at that distance and seeing your hits at that distance will be a lot harder with the 7mm.

Will you be dialing or using a custom reticle?

A fast twist 22-250 would be awesome, cheaper to shoot, you can see your hits, and plenty of power for yotes.

If you just really want to use your 7mm, then try the Sierras or the Bergers and figure your drops and wind drift and have fun.
I'm not stuck on the 7mm. This is the perfect excuse to buy/build a new rifle. I'm thinking using a combination dialing and reticle. A good mildot scope with target turrets. Dial the range and use the reticle to correct as needed.

I've got plenty of time to figure out what cartridge/rifle/optics combo I want and get everything setup and dialed in.

The only reason we're looking for something that's factory chambering is that neither one of us wants to spend the time farting with brass for a wildcat.

Thanks for all the input so far...Keep it coming!

jeepkid 03-17-2008 08:54 PM

RE: Long range yote rifle?
 

ORIGINAL: iloveto4x4


ORIGINAL: jeepkid


ORIGINAL: iloveto4x4


ORIGINAL: oldelkhunter

nothing less then a 338/378 would work on something like that
Why don't I just call up an air strike or artillery barrage?

I asked for input on here because I know alot of you guys either have or have had some of these calibers and that some of you do long range shooting. I personally feel that the 22s run out of steam too quickly at long ranges. Sure they're fine for punching holes in paper that far away, but I like quick, clean kills on critters. Please reserve input for serious comments only. I don't want to pick them up with a sponge and sandwich bag, but I don't want to just wound them either.
Are you looking to buy another rifle? Or, just for us to say to use the 7mm rem mag?

The 7mm is way overkill for yotes at that distance, sure it would work great. But, I'm guessing its not a custom LR rifle, so hitting yotes at that distance and seeing your hits at that distance will be a lot harder with the 7mm.

Will you be dialing or using a custom reticle?

A fast twist 22-250 would be awesome, cheaper to shoot, you can see your hits, and plenty of power for yotes.

If you just really want to use your 7mm, then try the Sierras or the Bergers and figure your drops and wind drift and have fun.
I'm not stuck on the 7mm. This is the perfect excuse to buy/build a new rifle. I'm thinking using a combination dialing and reticle. A good mildot scope with target turrets. Dial the range and use the reticle to correct as needed.

I've got plenty of time to figure out what cartridge/rifle/optics combo I want and get everything setup and dialed in.

The only reason we're looking for something that's factory chambering is that neither one of us wants to spend the time farting with brass for a wildcat.

Thanks for all the input so far...Keep it coming!
Are you going to reload for it?

iloveto4x4 03-17-2008 11:10 PM

RE: Long range yote rifle?
 
Yes, we plan to reload for it. We already reload for the 223s and 22-250s.

oldelkhunter 03-18-2008 05:11 AM

RE: Long range yote rifle?
 

Why don't I just call up an air strike or artillery barrage?

I asked for input on here because I know alot of you guys either have or have had some of these calibers and that some of you do long range shooting. I personally feel that the 22s run out of steam too quickly at long ranges. Sure they're fine for punching holes in paper that far away, but I like quick, clean kills on critters. Please reserve input for serious comments only. I don't want to pick them up with a sponge and sandwich bag, but I don't want to just wound them either.

Hmm so you don't think the 338/378 would work? There hasn't been a serious post here in quite a long time on this site just survey after survey talking about obscure cartridges. 7MM Magnum cartridge take your pick . BTW where do you live that you need to shoot yotes at 800 yards.?

iloveto4x4 03-18-2008 10:40 AM

RE: Long range yote rifle?
 
We live in CO and where we hunt, the yotes have gotten smart and stay out past 500yrds. Even with calls they won't come in much closer than that. They get quite a bit of pressure and know the tricks and that they're safe out there. We want to re-educate them a little.

When I said to use the reticle to adjust as needed, I meant for windage. Figure with a good scope and range finder we can dial yardage in without a problem.

Thanks for all the good responses so far!

TexasBowHunter 03-18-2008 03:08 PM

RE: Long range yote rifle?
 
I just purchased a ruger m77vt in 25-06 and I have ordered a 5-20X44 Nikon Monarch to put a top of the rifle for just this purpose, I haven't gotten it put together yet as I work overseas and will return early April to see how it does. Obviously I am hoping for it to do well, Good luck with your decision. If anyone out there has a factory load suggestion I am all ears.

DuckJunkie 03-19-2008 09:38 AM

RE: Long range yote rifle?
 
Why does everyone get there panties in a knot when a guy wants to use a beefy gun for yotes.


....overkill this overkill that..blahblah blah.Who cares its a PEST.

I would shoot one with a 50cal if I could, that would be awsome to see the dog blow up.


Alot of these "recreation varmint hunters" don't understand if you live/work on a ranch yotes are a pain in the butt and a good one is a dead one.


I'm done stirring the S#%t pot tonight:)

RugerM77.270 03-19-2008 11:55 AM

RE: Long range yote rifle?
 
Step on a roach, now that's overkill.

DuckJunkie 03-19-2008 11:31 PM

RE: Long range yote rifle?
 
Oh yeah man for sure.

spear him with a tooth pick or somthing.


:D

iloveto4x4 04-06-2008 10:41 AM

RE: Long range yote rifle?
 
After much reading and researching, I think I want to go with the 6.5mm/284 that's doing so well in the long range competitions. It kind of screws me up though since it's not a foctory cartridge. Means I have to build a rifle and strictly handload. Now comes the fun part, I have to pick an action, barrel, etc...Any suggestions on those parts? I'm looking at Ruger(I like the 3 way safety),Browning(love how smooth they are), Remington(easy to come by, but everybody uses them),or Savage(cheap and easy to change barrels on if I change my mind later). BTW, I'll be having the gun built by a respectable gunsmith.

iloveto4x4 04-06-2008 03:37 PM

RE: Long range yote rifle?
 

ORIGINAL: Ridge Runner

well you can buy a savage F-class model 12 chambered in 6.5/284 its a tuned action, and reports I've read has stated outstanding accuracy.
If your gonna build, go with a long action, they'll fit a short action but the long high BC bullets use alot of powder room for bullet storage.
I went through the same dilemma as you awhile back, the 6.5/284 had just been legitimized so I went with the 6.5 Gibbs, cause I like making cases and working on loads, and the gibbs will run the same bullets 300 fps faster, yet its still on a standard long case (270 win.) anyway I used a LH 700 action, put a senduro weight kreiger 1/8 twist barrel and put in in a joel russo A5-L, a loopy 8.5x25 mark 4, M1, TMR sets on top in seekins precision bases and rings with 20 MOA built into it. a pic

That's a nice looking rig you have there. I didn't want anything that I'd have to make brass for, and I can get brass for the 6.5/284 from several differant manufacturers. I was wondering about action length. I'd prefer a short action, but will use a long action if it'll feed better.

jeepkid 04-06-2008 04:51 PM

RE: Long range yote rifle?
 

ORIGINAL: iloveto4x4

That's a nice looking rig you have there. I didn't want anything that I'd have to make brass for, and I can get brass for the 6.5/284 from several differant manufacturers. I was wondering about action length. I'd prefer a short action, but will use a long action if it'll feed better.
The long action will give you more room to mess with seating depth on the VLD type bullets. Go with the long. ;)

doubleA 04-06-2008 05:25 PM

RE: Long range yote rifle?
 
You might look at what Cooper Arms has to offer. My 6.5x284 is built on the long single shot action M22. I furnished the wood on this one and topped it off with Leupold Mark IV 8.5x25x50 LR/T M1.It has a 26" fluted SS Liljabarrel and the trigger breaks like glass at 20 oz.

Imostly punch paper but dont see why it wouldnt work on distant yotes. I agree,when using the 140+gr bullets, the long action is the way to go.



game4lunch 04-06-2008 06:08 PM

RE: Long range yote rifle?
 
.243 with a nice Wichester 55 gr. SupremeĀ® Ballistic Silvertip will do nicely.

iloveto4x4 04-26-2008 11:43 AM

RE: Long range yote rifle?
 
I'm still looking for suggestions on barrel, action, and stock options. Thanks for the replies so far.


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