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The Best Cartridge / Caliber List
.223 .220 Swift
.243 6mm Rem. .257 ? .264 6.5 WSM (we need this one) .277 .270 Win.(didn't need to fix it with the .270WSM) .284 ? (7mm-08 maybe?) .308 .300 WSM(plenty of great .30's though) .323 ? .338.340 Wby. (.338 RUM & Dakota both nice though) .375 .375 Ruger .416 .416 Ruger (until available .416 Rigby) .458 .458 Lott(don't even consider the .458 win mag) *Bold indicates clearly the best. |
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.257 Wby ....#1 by default, .25-06 doesn't beat a 6mm or .270 in any respective category.
6.5 WSM......wildcat for now? not much comp here either. .270 Win. wasn't broke, why fix it with a .270 WSM? .308 quite a few good ones in this category, hard to pick a #1 |
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I would rank the .257 Wthby as the #1 barrel eater.
Your definition of "best" almost seems to be which gun can squeek out the most fps regardless of the cost in powder, brass and barrel life. I look at "best" far differently. Best to me is the most versatile and efficient. I'm amused at everyone's love affair with the 7/08 when this cartridge is virtually identical ballistically to the 7X57 that has been around for longer than most here have been alive.;) |
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You chose the .375 Ruger over the established .375 H&H? I think that in itself says a lot about your intelligence.
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ORIGINAL: CommonSense You chose the .375 Ruger over the established .375 H&H? I think that in itself says a lot about your intelligence. |
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We need a .17, .20, .358, 405 as well.....
And the quintessential .223 cartridge is the .22 LR.... as well as the .30/06 taking the 30 cal class, the 8mm Rem Mag (as I'd sooner shoot a standard K-98 than the 325 WSM), the 330 Dakota is the undisputed king of the .338s, and how can you put the .375 Ruger in front of the .375 H&H... yes I know its a shorter round, and beltless and offers a bit more ummppphhh, but I would sooner trust my freedom to Hillary Clinton than my life to anything with the Ruger name on it. When someone else makes a rifle in that caliber, I'll give it a nod. (note... I do like the .204 Ruger though...) |
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I guess that is why there are so many different cartridges of the same caliber. We all have our opinions on what is "best". My opinion is anything 30 cal and under there is no need for a 'magnum'. So that leaves my choice of magnums in the .323 (8mm) up to .375. No need for anything bigger.
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.375 Ruger is a better round than the .375 H&H. Even Craig boddington agrees. The first new .375 to come along that has a legit chance to dethrone the h&h. I think it's here to stay, people set in their ways may not buy one, but all the new .375 guys should be buying it over the h&h. I'm just waiting for it to be available in nicer factory rifles, it'll happen. In a few years maybe 5, you'll be seeing alot more of the .375 Ruger.
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Even Craig boddington agrees. I bet the guy that flys to Africa with a new .375 Ruger that has his ammo getlost on the flight probably wouldn't think that the new Ruger version is better than the H&Hwhen he tries to buy some amunition for it and all he can find is H&H. I think the H&H version would be much better to have. There is no best cartridge for everything. Most of your "best" cartridges seem to stem from highest velociy attainable from any given bore diameter. Take the 308 bore diameter. A 300 superdupermag may push 3500 fps with a 180 grain bullet out of a 26" barrel bolt action but it certainly wouldn't be best for a guy hunting in the swamps and pine thickets in Florida. A 30-30 would be far superior to any 300 magnum. Bottom line is there is no best. |
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ORIGINAL: salukipv1 .223 .220 Swift 22lr .243 6mm Rem. 243 win .257 ? 25-06 .264 6.5 WSM 264 win mag .277 .270 Win.have to agree with you on this one .284 ? (280 rem definitely) .308 .300 WSM(30-06 hands down) .323 ? 8mm rem mag .338.340 Wby. (agree) .375 .375 Ruger 375 h&h .416 .416 Ruger (416 Rigby) .458 .458 Lott(agree don't even consider the .458 win mag) also 17:17hmr 20:204 ruger 35: 35 whelen(another 06 based cartridge that rocks) may be more when Ican remember them *Bold indicates clearly the best. |
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Just having a little fun, I'm always trying to come up with MY perfect arsenol, it's always changing, it's like a big numbers crunch. I'm actually not always looking for highest velocity round. I think 3000fps is a good place to put most big game rounds.....varmints I like to see 4000fps, which really is only the .220 or 22-250. everything else I aim around 3000fps, until the big bores......where 2400fps is my ideal. All of my rifle hunting has been done where potential for long range shots. I really haven't hunted big game up close, so I tend to go magnums or .30-06 over .308's 30-30's.
So my list I guess in part is developed to shoot 500yds give/take for everything. Until the big bores really. |
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ORIGINAL: salukipv1 .375 Ruger is a better round than the .375 H&H. Even Craig boddington agrees. The first new .375 to come along that has a legit chance to dethrone the h&h. I think it's here to stay, people set in their ways may not buy one, but all the new .375 guys should be buying it over the h&h. I'm just waiting for it to be available in nicer factory rifles, it'll happen. In a few years maybe 5, you'll be seeing alot more of the .375 Ruger. If Ruger sent me to Africa, all expenses paid, and gave me a new rifle to shoot all my game with... I'd tell you that Jesus was on safari with me and he had two of them with a third on order. I enjoy Craig Boddington's writing, and he will tell you outright that a .375 Ruger is superior to a .375 H&H.... and its because his wallet tells him so. I am not going to sell the farm for a gun with a slightly shorter action that gives only a measured 74 additional fps at the muzzle compared to a 375 H&H with a 300gr solid. Something as time tested and tried and true as a 375 H&H will do fine. If you want more out of a .375..... buy an Ultra Mag or a .416. |
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I'm really not a big craig fan at all, just thought I'd counter, whoever said whatever....earlier....
If we wer ecomparing .375 RUM, or any other .375 I'd say there's just not chance to compete, but this .375 ruger really offers somethign more, extra 100fps, or so, and a shorter action, ie .30-06 length, I think .375 dakota might as well, though its a proprietary cartridge, so for popularity etc.....I think the ruger has a chance, and with the name ruger I think alotta ruger guys might decide to get one. Kinda a cheap .375....but I do hope they offer it in something nicer soon, whether its ruger or someone else. This is 1 new round I'd like to see succeed. I like that its beltless and shorter, though the .375 h&h being 1 of if not the most popular round in the world is something to consider, as I will be before I buy one. Also so many others chamber the .375 right now, but if the rugers popularity rises..... |
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Listed as - I think is most popular for theslot
* tend to agree or (differ/comment) .22322LR (CF 22-250) .243.243win (6mm rem) .25725-06 rem*(considerations to the 2506AI) .2646.5x 55 (6.5-284) .277 270 Win.* .2847mm rem mag( I like most .284 cartridges butmy choice is with the masses at present.Though mynext 7mm will be a STW!!) .3083006(.300wm - whats not to like about this cartridge. It handles the .308 big game gr sizes very well.) .323325 wsm(Looking one up or one down,a slot that doesn't need to be filled IMO) .338338 wm.* .375 375H&H * .416 416 Rigby * .458 458 Lott* |
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My Thoughts
.223 22 mag .243 243 Win .257 257 Wby .264 6.5x55 SE .277 (probably skip this oneand get a 7mm-08) .284 7mm Rem Mag .308 308 Win[/b] .323 325 WSM .338 338 Win Mag .375 375 H&H .416 416 Rigby .458 458 Lott[/b] |
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Well, now that Craig said it itmust be true. I bet the guy that flys to Africa with a new .375 Ruger that has his ammo getlost on the flight probably wouldn't think that the new Ruger version is better than the H&Hwhen he tries to buy some amunition for it and all he can find is H&H. I think the H&H version would be much better to have. Very good pointand not to mention that the 375 will not be affected by the heat and humidity like a stoked 375 Ruger will be. |
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Lets see I started with:
22 LR 270 Win 35 Rem 35 Whelen Then added: 22 Mag 358 Win And want: 222 Rem 7mm 08 With that I am very well equiped and happy, and always happy to get more too. |
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Posts like this show just exactly why the companies continue to pump out "new and improved" versions of tried and true models that have been around for 75-100 years....and also why that "new and improved" version has almost disappeared completely within 10 years... Gunwriters are bought and sold daily likes stocks on Wall Street.....anyone that believes a positive review from them needs to take a long look at who butters their (gunwriters)bread...
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I like the shorter cartridges myself.. So I shy away from the 06... With that being said.. If I had to pick one in each caliber I would probably go with
22-250 - Have 243 and 6mm - Have 257 roberts - Would like to have 260 Rem - Would like to have 270 WSM - Had 7mm08 - Have 308 - Have 325 WSM - Would like to have 335 - Would like to have 444 Marlin - Have I'll stop there because anymore "Would like to have" would probably end in divorce.. :D |
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220 Swift 6mm Rem. .257 .250 Savage ? .264 6.5 X54mm Mannlicher .277 .270 Win. .2847X57mm Mauser ? (7mm-08 maybe?) .308 Win. .30/'06 .308 Norma Magnum .323 8X60 S8X60 RS ? .338Ein Mag .340 Wby .375375 Ruger .375 H&H .416.416 Rigby .458 .450 Rigby .500 Nitro |
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.223- .223 Rem or .22-243 AI
.243- .243 AI .257- .25 WSM .264- .260 AI .277- .270 WSM .284- 7mm Allen Mag .308- .308 Win .323- .325 WSM .338- .338 Win Mag or Ultra Mag or Edge .375- .375 H&H or Ruger .416- Dunno .458- Dunno |
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.223 -- .220swift
.243--- .243win .257 -- 25-06 .264 -- .264wm .277 -- .270win .284 -- 7mmwm .308 -- .300wm .323 -- .325wsm .338 -- .338wm .375 --.375hh .416 No idea .458 -- 45/70 runner ups 22-250,6mm,257 roberts,270wsm,.280,30-06/,??,.338rum,35whelen,375 ruger, |
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