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mossbergman11 01-23-2008 04:54 PM

shooting slug with full choke?
 
I have been wanting to use my winchester to shoot slugs with. can i shoot slugs out of this gun with a full choke barrel?

bigtim6656 01-23-2008 04:56 PM

RE: shooting slug with full choke?
 
mossberg told me to no for my 500

mossbergman11 01-23-2008 04:57 PM

RE: shooting slug with full choke?
 

ORIGINAL: bigtim6656

mossberg told me to no for my 500
i dont understand what you mean?

Pavomesa 01-23-2008 05:08 PM

RE: shooting slug with full choke?
 
I am not a slug shooter but I thought shooting slugs was a MAJOR mistake in shotguns with chokes? Am I wrong?

Retaks 01-23-2008 05:10 PM

RE: shooting slug with full choke?
 
Only shoot slugs through slug barrels or barrels with Cyl, Imp Cyl, or Mod chokes. I wouldnt recomend using a Mod choke but you can.

johnny2 01-23-2008 05:27 PM

RE: shooting slug with full choke?
 
I would not do it-never shoot slugs through a choke tube...The pressure will sky rocket...

millerhunter13 01-23-2008 05:30 PM

RE: shooting slug with full choke?
 
ok, well on most guns they are true, but what kind of winchester? is it a new gun? cause i have a old winchester mod. 37 410 and i have shot slugs out of it, and its fine, and it has a full choke. what guage is it?

mossbergman11 01-23-2008 05:34 PM

RE: shooting slug with full choke?
 
it is a 1940 era Winchester Model 12 12 gauge shotgun with full choke barrel

mossbergman11 01-23-2008 05:35 PM

RE: shooting slug with full choke?
 
so if i want to shoot a slug dont use a choke?

Wingbone 01-23-2008 05:38 PM

RE: shooting slug with full choke?
 
Where I live is shotgun only deer hunting. For many years, hunters shot foster-type slugs out of whatever shotgun they owned. Many of those were full choked. Not very accurate, but I've never heard of anyone ever having a problem. Those"ribs" on the dead-soft lead slugs are designed to deform as they go through the choke.

Pavomesa 01-23-2008 06:06 PM

RE: shooting slug with full choke?
 
I think where people get into trouble is with screw on chokes.

Retaks 01-23-2008 06:15 PM

RE: shooting slug with full choke?
 
You can shoot slugs through a gun with a full choke. It is not recomended like i said earlier. You also can shoot slugs through guns with interchangable choke tubes. Follow the same rules i said before and they also make rifled choke tubes for some guns.

johnny2 01-23-2008 06:16 PM

RE: shooting slug with full choke?
 
I have always been told to NOT do it...So,to be on the safe side
you should ask a gunsmith or check with the manufactor..
No sence in ruining the gun or yourself..Let me know what
you find out..

mossbergman11 01-23-2008 06:30 PM

RE: shooting slug with full choke?
 
all right well the gun is from 1940 i wont shoot slugs from it yet


bigtim6656 01-23-2008 07:12 PM

RE: shooting slug with full choke?
 
sorry typo
i emailed mossberg they told me not to shoot thru a full choke

ORIGINAL: mossbergman11


ORIGINAL: bigtim6656

mossberg told me to no for my 500
i dont understand what you mean?

mossbergman11 01-23-2008 07:21 PM

RE: shooting slug with full choke?
 
crap i have shot slugs through a choke before and i have a mossberg 500[:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@]
what will this do to my gun??????????????

bigtim6656 01-23-2008 07:33 PM

RE: shooting slug with full choke?
 
it is a full choke not any choke and i have not done it just saying what mossberg said
they also said i could shoot shot through a rifled barrel so who knows

ORIGINAL: mossbergman11

crap i have shot slugs through a choke before and i have a mossberg 500[:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@]
what will this do to my gun??????????????

Pygmy 01-23-2008 08:01 PM

RE: shooting slug with full choke?
 
There are so many different types of slugs and different types of chokes available today... Certain combinations of slug and choke might not be a good idea..

HOWEVER, regular foster type rifled slugs are perfectly safe to fire through any 1940 era full choke, be it a Win M12, an Ithaca 37, a Remington M31 or any other barrel made from around 1912 to whenever with a fixed choke...

Just be sure to use the "old fashion" foster style lead slugs, like Remington Sluggers, or the equivalent from Winchester, Federal, and others...

Paul L Mohr 01-24-2008 03:56 PM

RE: shooting slug with full choke?
 
Most rifled slugs will shoot through a full choke, I wouldn't go any tighter though. The fins are actually there to crush as they go through the choke on a shotgun. They do not impart any spin on the slug as many believe they do.

While you can shoot them I wouldn't suggest it because the full choke will severely deform the slug and I highly doubt it will be very accurate.

I'm not sure I would try it with a gun that old, but I doubt it will hurt anything.

"I would not do it-never shoot slugs through a choke tube...The pressure will sky rocket..."

Really? where did you hear this? People have been shooting foster style slugs out of guns with various choke sizes for decades, that is actually what they are designed for.

As far as shooting a slug through a barrel with a screw in choke, DO NOT shoot a slug or any other shell in these guns without a choke installed! It will say this right in your manual. Always have some sort of choke installed when shooting it. The screw in chokes are actually made from hardened machined steel in most cases and are actually harder than the barrels are. If you shoot it without a choke the metal at the end of the barrel is very thin because it is machined and threaded to except a screw choke. At the very least you would run the risk of messing up the threads if you shot it without a choke installed.

Paul



mossbergman11 01-25-2008 03:43 PM

RE: shooting slug with full choke?
 
i have remington sluggers
so these would be fine to shoot out of my model 12?

Retaks 01-25-2008 05:45 PM

RE: shooting slug with full choke?
 
Yes from what people have said on here they will be fine. Ive been told to not do it but others on here say its ok.

bigtim6656 01-25-2008 06:06 PM

RE: shooting slug with full choke?
 
ya but if you had a nuclear bomb in front of you
and there was a red and green button

10 people say push the red one it will be OK 10 people say push the blue one

the company that made the bomb said to push neither
what do you do

ORIGINAL: Retaks

Yes from what people have said on here they will be fine. Ive been told to not do it but others on here say its ok.

Retaks 01-25-2008 06:18 PM

RE: shooting slug with full choke?
 
Wellsince the bomb only has red andgreen buttons i dont know where they found ablue button to push but id listen to the company and not push any buttons.

bigtim6656 01-26-2008 08:19 AM

RE: shooting slug with full choke?
 
:D:D:Doppps that might get someone killed

ORIGINAL: Retaks

Wellsince the bomb only has red andgreen buttons i dont know where they found ablue button to push but id listen to the company and not push any buttons.

Retaks 01-26-2008 09:00 AM

RE: shooting slug with full choke?
 
Yea it would prob be really bad.

glockman55 01-26-2008 09:55 AM

RE: shooting slug with full choke?
 
Sounds like you really want to try it, so go for it. But don't blame anyone but your self if you mess it up. Just like I heard it's not a good idea to shoot buck shot through a rifled slug barrel, or was that steel shot?

eldeguello 01-26-2008 11:02 AM

RE: shooting slug with full choke?
 

ORIGINAL: mossbergman11

I have been wanting to use my winchester to shoot slugs with. can i shoot slugs out of this gun with a full choke barrel?
The bore-size, pure soft lead Foster-type slugs can be shot from any commercially available choked smoothbore barrel, regardless of choke constriction. So can the original Brennekes. But accuracy usually depends on how deformed a slug gets going thru the choke - the tighter the choke, the worse the shoot. If you want accuracy, a cylinder bored barrel is better, one with rifle sights or scope mounting provisions.....

eldeguello 01-26-2008 11:09 AM

RE: shooting slug with full choke?
 

ORIGINAL: Pavomesa

I am not a slug shooter but I thought shooting slugs was a MAJOR mistake in shotguns with chokes? Am I wrong?
I would NOT shoot any type of slug except for Foster-types andBrennekes MADE for smoothbore barrels through a choked bore. The Fosters and the Brennekes are made of soft lead, and are designedto swage down to fit through any choke you can find in a factory-made gun, from Cylinder bore to Full....

People have been asking this question since choke boring of shotgun barrelsbegan in the middle 1800's.....

Paul L Mohr 01-26-2008 11:11 AM

RE: shooting slug with full choke?
 

ORIGINAL: glockman55
Just like I heard it's not a good idea to shoot buck shot through a rifled slug barrel, or was that steel shot?
Neither one will hurt anything, the patterns just suck and there will be a hole in the middle because the shot will tend to spin as it leaves the barrel sometimes. I guess shooting a lot of steel shot out of a rifled barrel may wear it out eventually, but the hardness of the steel shot is no where near as hard as the barrel in your gun. And considering the price of steel shot and the amount you would have to shoot through it to ruin it you would have to be pretty stupid to keep doing it. Especially considering the poor performance you would get out of it. If you were dumb enough to run that much steel shot through a rifled barrel you deserve to ruin it in my opinion.;)

Buckshot won't do anything other than maybe lead the grooves up after some time. And it would shoot like crap as well because there is no choke in a rifled barrel.

Paul

glockman55 01-26-2008 11:33 AM

RE: shooting slug with full choke?
 
I never have shot any steel or buckshot through my slug barrel, I have seen pics of barrels with nasty grooves down the bore, I wonder what made them.

mossbergman11 01-26-2008 05:16 PM

RE: shooting slug with full choke?
 
yeah if i do shoot it i will use foster style slugs
what type o0f slugs are hornady sst's?

Paul L Mohr 01-26-2008 08:50 PM

RE: shooting slug with full choke?
 
Those are very expensive sabot slugs designed for rifled barrels only. DO NOT shoot those through your gun. They will not crush as they go through the choke. Not to mention they are like 15 bucks for five rounds and won't shoot worth a darn in that gun, if it doesn't bulge the end of your barrel when they come out.

Paul

MichiganWhitetails74 01-26-2008 08:52 PM

RE: shooting slug with full choke?
 
I shoot slugs out of my mossberg 500 410...with full choke...no issues...

mossbergman11 01-27-2008 07:45 AM

RE: shooting slug with full choke?
 
yeah i know im getting those for next season

eldeguello 01-27-2008 09:12 AM

RE: shooting slug with full choke?
 

ORIGINAL: mossbergman11

yeah i know im getting those for next season
Don't waste your money on any kind of sabot slug for use in a smooth-bore barrel. Even if they cause no damage, the bullets (such as that SST) will just keyhole, and go nowhere near the target!

I have had excellent accuracy in my Ithaca Deerslayer with Remington Foster type slugs, and a friend of mine got good performance from the Brennekes in his Remington 870. You need to try out several different brands of slugs to see which make shoot best in your gun.

Newtire 02-28-2023 09:44 PM


Originally Posted by mossbergman11 (Post 2520946)
I have been wanting to use my winchester to shoot slugs with. can i shoot slugs out of this gun with a full choke barrel?

Yes, you can. A lot of folks say no but most manufacturers say you can. I've shot slugs in my M-12 full choke as well as an Ithaca. They both shot the Foster slugs pretty accurately! I had a single barreled shotgun made up with a cylinder bore that wasn't as accurate as my good old Winchester M12.

Oldtimr 03-01-2023 04:30 AM


Originally Posted by glockman55 (Post 2526638)
I never have shot any steel or buckshot through my slug barrel, I have seen pics of barrels with nasty grooves down the bore, I wonder what made them.

Are you sure the groves were not the rifling?


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