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GTO .... note that the model 742 and managed recoil loads may not fully function. I bought some for a 7400 Carbine 30.06 and it shot like a dream. I mean little more than a light shooting .223 ... hardly noticable. BUT it would not eject the spent cases. The reduction in powder, and energy, does not allow them to fully work the action of ALL semi-autos. It might work in some, but not all.

I tried it when they first came out, and I contacted Remington about it. They said they had not considered that aspect concerning the new ammo. About 2 months later, their ad's had disclaimers, and it was put on the ammo's boxes.

Just a word of warning, so you don't buy it and get mad or anything. But man they do shoot great in that gun....

God Bless

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Thanks for the advice MichaelT...!

I guess I need to give my gun a good cleaning to help it eject themanaged recoil shells.....hopefully it will help it some?

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Managed Recoil Loads?
I think they are a great concept, especially if you hand load and can tone them down without making them flat out anemic. Great solution for a young man needing a rifle, but one that will out grow a rifle in just a few years. 300 RUM is a classic idea, i.e. multiple levels of power: 30-06 level, 300WinMag level, or full 300 RUM level. In any case it don't take much for deer, so the typical factory "managed recoil loads" in 7mmRemMag, 30-06, and 300WinMag are quite sufficient.
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So true.... and so many folks seem to pride themselves on having recoil be as bad as it can be, makes for a "better" story. I always played it down instead of playing it up.
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Just as a opposing counter-view:

Personally, recoil was no big deal ever since I was a kid and skinny as a string bean. I was always chompin' at the bit to get an opportunity totake ontheadult's guns and couldn't wait. Ditched the 410 for a 12 gauge at 10, dropped the 30-30 at 12 to get into a scoped 270 at 14, got a 12 gauge 3" mag autoloaderat 16 (great for geese), shot a friends 458WinMag at 16 (what a rush),got a 10 gauge double at 19 (not so much fun), 10 gauge autoloader at 21 (much, much better)and then jumped into a 338WinMag upon signing up for my first elk hunt at 23.Got coached by an African PH who ran the shooting center in the off season on how to handle the recoil on the big bores and walked right up thru them.No Big Deal.

Recoil, yep.... gotta manage it both mentally and with technique, you don't want to have a"just bend over and take it" attitude when it comes to recoil.

Small or large, I like them all, just match the tool to the job.

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When evaluating the performance of the cartridges, I give a great deal of consideration to the size of the game I'm after. I hunt in the Texas Hill Country, where a big buck is in the 150-170 lb. range, and shots average less than 100 yards. According to the ballistics tables, I don't think that "flat out anemic" is an appropriate description for the 7mm Rem Mag "managed recoil" ammo. Performance is about midway between the 7X57 Mauser and the 7mm-08, both of which have proven to be quite acceptable deer cartridges. The .308, .30-06,7mm-08, .270, and .260managed recoil rounds carry 1100+ ft lbs of energy at 200 yards (significantly more than a .30-30 at that distance). The 140 gr. 7mm Rem Mag has 1600 ft lbs at 200 yards, and still has almost 1100 at 400 yards, nearly as much punch as a standard 130 gr. .270.

By the way, the folks at Gander Mountain are REALLY proud of that Managed Recoil ammo... They wanted $39.95 a box for the stuff! (Even though theirfull load 150 gr. 7mm Rem. Mag.'s were on salefor $19.95 per box. You'd think with less powder, the MR rounds would be cheaper...)Carter's Country, a large local hunting specialty store had them for $35.00 a box. Academy,5 miles down the road from Gander Mountain, had them for $29.87 a box. I bought all four that they had in stock...

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ipscshooter
I turned 18 in 1977 and one of the first things I did was to go to local gun store and bought a Remington 700 BDLin 7mm. Mag. I still have it and still shoot it. A few years back I bought a new Remington 700SS in 7mm. Mag. The older gun shoots better than my new one. I've shot every brand ammo there is out of it and the best was plain old 150gr. Winchester silver tips. I've taken a number deer with it. I've never considered it to be a punishing round and a day the range usually involvestwo or three boxes. Give it a try. You might be surprised how manageable it really is.
Ken

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I used the managed-recoil ammo for my .30-06 this year. With decent ammo, the rifle (Rem. 760) shot right at MOA or a little under. With the managed-recoil stuff, it shot 1.25-1.5 MOA. That is totally acceptable since nearly all my shots on game will be well within 100 yards. The terrain here is similar to Deep-East Texas hill country. I didn't shoot a deer with it this year, but shot some coyotes with it and it really tore them up. The recoil was similar to 7.62x39 out of my single-shot.

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the R3 is the limbsaver, just with a different name. Also, in the next year or so, Remington will be expanding its power level ammunition to the 7mm RM chambering. They will have 3 loads that all fit the same chambering. One of them will be approximately equivalent to a 270 win, which would theoretically give less recoil in the same chambering. This ishould befairly reliable info, as it was sent to me by Remington in a response to a specific question about future power level ammo chamberings.