ultimate defense gun
#12
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RE: ultimate defense gun
ORIGINAL: bigtim6656
what i am saying you would use a shotgun to shoto someone 100 yards away most people tell me not to hunt with one out to 50 or 60
and i do not mean a slug gun because you can not use shot in them
what i am saying you would use a shotgun to shoto someone 100 yards away most people tell me not to hunt with one out to 50 or 60
and i do not mean a slug gun because you can not use shot in them
ORIGINAL: Rammer
I'm confused, please decipher this for me.
I'd pick a 12 gauge as well in this situation. I could use my AR with a flatop, EoTech, and backup irons though.
ORIGINAL: bigtim6656
the only thing if you wont shotgun hunt at 100 yards why would you use one for defense at a 10 yards and when someone is in my house te only thing i wont them to hear is bang bang
the only thing if you wont shotgun hunt at 100 yards why would you use one for defense at a 10 yards and when someone is in my house te only thing i wont them to hear is bang bang
I'm confused, please decipher this for me.
I'd pick a 12 gauge as well in this situation. I could use my AR with a flatop, EoTech, and backup irons though.
Like i said in my last post, a shotgun that's "set up" for buckshot, WILL also shoot slugs. And a shotgun with slugsIS a hundred yard weapon!!
That doesn't mean it's the "perfect" 100 yard weapon, but it will get the job done if needed. Keep in mind that the need for a 100 yard shot is slim at best.... so that makes a shotgun with slugs more than acceptable...
DM
#13
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 93
RE: ultimate defense gun
I forgot to add-My doberman and griffonlet me know well in advance of anyone getting close to my house.
I'd still use a shotgun to make up for anyaiming issues(scared****less, adrenalin,too dark to see or aim well)I might have in a home defense situation.
I can aim it well enough from the hip to hit somebody in the dark.
I would guess up to 40 yds. with my skeet barrel and 00 buckshot ifit was shouldered.
If there were no rules or limitations, an M-16 on full auto would be a great choice, with plenty of ammo.
I'd still use a shotgun to make up for anyaiming issues(scared****less, adrenalin,too dark to see or aim well)I might have in a home defense situation.
I can aim it well enough from the hip to hit somebody in the dark.
I would guess up to 40 yds. with my skeet barrel and 00 buckshot ifit was shouldered.
If there were no rules or limitations, an M-16 on full auto would be a great choice, with plenty of ammo.
#14
RE: ultimate defense gun
i agree i think a shotgun for 100 is a good way to get shot dead i would take a ak47 ar15 or even abolt action and leave the shotgun for under 20
ORIGINAL: Briman
For 100 yards or less, I'd take a AKM over a shotgun, for 20 yards or less, I'd take the shotgun.
For 100 yards or less, I'd take a AKM over a shotgun, for 20 yards or less, I'd take the shotgun.
#15
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RE: ultimate defense gun
ORIGINAL: bigtim6656
i agree i think a shotgun for 100 is a good way to get shot dead i would take a ak47 ar15 or even abolt action and leave the shotgun for under 20
i agree i think a shotgun for 100 is a good way to get shot dead i would take a ak47 ar15 or even abolt action and leave the shotgun for under 20
ORIGINAL: Briman
For 100 yards or less, I'd take a AKM over a shotgun, for 20 yards or less, I'd take the shotgun.
For 100 yards or less, I'd take a AKM over a shotgun, for 20 yards or less, I'd take the shotgun.
Wanna put some money up to prove me wrong in either case??
DM
#16
RE: ultimate defense gun
i can ee a slug gun with sabots but everyone i have talked to on here says not to hunt with a smoothbore out past 60 yards so whyw ould you use a shotgun out to 100 yards for defense if you wont use it for hunting
and you can not use shot in a rifled barrel so s slug gun is not good for close quarters
and you can not use shot in a rifled barrel so s slug gun is not good for close quarters
ORIGINAL: DM
Do you think a shotgun with a slugisn't accurate at 100??? OR, do you think a slug wouldn't kill you at 100???
Wanna put some money up to prove me wrong in either case??
DM
ORIGINAL: bigtim6656
i agree i think a shotgun for 100 is a good way to get shot dead i would take a ak47 ar15 or even abolt action and leave the shotgun for under 20
i agree i think a shotgun for 100 is a good way to get shot dead i would take a ak47 ar15 or even abolt action and leave the shotgun for under 20
ORIGINAL: Briman
For 100 yards or less, I'd take a AKM over a shotgun, for 20 yards or less, I'd take the shotgun.
For 100 yards or less, I'd take a AKM over a shotgun, for 20 yards or less, I'd take the shotgun.
Wanna put some money up to prove me wrong in either case??
DM
#17
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Central Iowa
Posts: 242
RE: ultimate defense gun
Every deer ive shot the last 5 years ive killed with a smoothbore...and they've all been over 60 yds. The cops in my area keep shotguns with extendedmag tubes.What they do is 00,00, slug,00,00,slug etc.....
#20
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RE: ultimate defense gun
ORIGINAL: bigtim6656
i can ee a slug gun with sabots but everyone i have talked to on here says not to hunt with a smoothbore out past 60 yards so whyw ould you use a shotgun out to 100 yards for defense if you wont use it for hunting
and you can not use shot in a rifled barrel so s slug gun is not good for close quarters
i can ee a slug gun with sabots but everyone i have talked to on here says not to hunt with a smoothbore out past 60 yards so whyw ould you use a shotgun out to 100 yards for defense if you wont use it for hunting
and you can not use shot in a rifled barrel so s slug gun is not good for close quarters
ORIGINAL: DM
Do you think a shotgun with a slugisn't accurate at 100??? OR, do you think a slug wouldn't kill you at 100???
Wanna put some money up to prove me wrong in either case??
DM
ORIGINAL: bigtim6656
i agree i think a shotgun for 100 is a good way to get shot dead i would take a ak47 ar15 or even abolt action and leave the shotgun for under 20
i agree i think a shotgun for 100 is a good way to get shot dead i would take a ak47 ar15 or even abolt action and leave the shotgun for under 20
ORIGINAL: Briman
For 100 yards or less, I'd take a AKM over a shotgun, for 20 yards or less, I'd take the shotgun.
For 100 yards or less, I'd take a AKM over a shotgun, for 20 yards or less, I'd take the shotgun.
Wanna put some money up to prove me wrong in either case??
DM
DM