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bigcountry 12-27-2007 08:35 AM
RE: Remington to buyout Marlin
 
ORIGINAL: statjunk

Well I tracked a guide gun down and I'm going to buy it today at lunch. I don't want Remington getting thier dirty little paws on my gun.

Tom
Beleive me, its not the way business aquisitions work. It would take years go the two to mix together to make an effect on the product. My company has been thru so many aquisitions, its not funny. Its not like on tv, where a company goes in and clears everyone out the first day, and moves in engineers from another company.

There were some on here, who thought the beretta buyout of sako would totally trash Sako's products and it didn't. Customer service of sako leaves alot to be desired, but thats it.

statjunk 12-27-2007 08:39 AM
RE: Remington to buyout Marlin
 
I'm not taking any chances. But I know there is some of that. I'd bet they'll be casting parts any day now.

Tom

bigcountry 12-27-2007 08:43 AM
RE: Remington to buyout Marlin
 
ORIGINAL: statjunk

I'm not taking any chances. But I know there is some of that. I'd bet they'll be casting parts any day now.

Tom
They will be taking advantage of some of thier outsourcing partners to leverage price. I would like to see marlin pull out of yankee land myself. They have had some dogs of thier own over the years. Like the microgroove barrels. Those are first rate turds.

oldelkhunter 12-27-2007 08:50 AM
RE: Remington to buyout Marlin
 
There were some on here, who thought the beretta buyout of sako would totally trash Sako's products and it didn't. Customer service of sako leaves alot to be desired, but thats it.
[ol][*]Sako barrel blowups...Beretta wanted to up production on Sako barrels by adding sulphur in the forging process , Sako still gets stung with that.[*]Have you checked to see how much parts Beretta stocks for Sakos? I can tell you not much and they have really bumped them up in price.[*]Sako 85...funny how Tikka like that reciever is..ever wonder why?[*]Fit and finish on an 85 just look at a wood stockedone.[*]Are you basing it on our experience of owning a Stoeger imported rifle?[/ol]
Just give Beretta time and they will do them in . Customer service of Beretta and that culture is the problem..Your not talking to a Sako rep when you call Beretta are you? I'll bet the people in Finland are not too happy about how Beretta is handling it. Your wrong again on aquisitions the effect will happen in avery short time. Just look at the Chrysler layoffs for an example. They will consolidate all these firearm companies and weed out what sells and doesn't sell and jack the prices. Not so you say explain how a Remington 700 that sold in the 600+ range before Cerberus is now selling in the 800+ range?

bigcountry 12-27-2007 09:08 AM
RE: Remington to buyout Marlin
 
ORIGINAL: oldelkhunter

There were some on here, who thought the beretta buyout of sako would totally trash Sako's products and it didn't. Customer service of sako leaves alot to be desired, but thats it.
[ol][*]Sako barrel blowups...Beretta wanted to up production on Sako barrels by adding sulphur in the forging process , Sako still gets stung with that.[*]Have you checked to see how much parts Beretta stocks for Sakos? I can tell you not much and they have really bumped them up in price.[*]Sako 85...funny how Tikka like that reciever is..ever wonder why?[*]Fit and finish on an 85 just look at a wood stockedone.[*]Are you basing it on our experience of owning a Stoeger imported rifle?[/ol]

Just give Beretta time and they will do them in . Customer service of Beretta and that culture is the problem..Your not talking to a Sako rep when you call Beretta are you? I'll bet the people in Finland are not too happy about how Beretta is handling it. Your wrong again on aquisitions the effect will happen in avery short time. Just look at the Chrysler layoffs for an example. They will consolidate all these firearm companies and weed out what sells and doesn't sell and jack the prices. Not so you say explain how a Remington 700 that sold in the 600+ range before Cerberus is now selling in the 800+ range?
Well, I actually work in the mfg world and understand outsourcing and understand these things. You just read them. What are you and what do you do? An internet security guy or something? Sure you know what your talking about?:D

oldelkhunter 12-27-2007 09:14 AM
RE: Remington to buyout Marlin
 
If you knew what you were talking about you wouldn't make the statements you make. Hurling insults and evading questions seem to be your strongpoint. I am not going to lower myself to your level. Wonder why they did away with the Ignore button. Sure could use it about now.

bigcountry 12-27-2007 09:23 AM
RE: Remington to buyout Marlin
 
ORIGINAL: oldelkhunter

If you knew what you were taling about you wouldn't make the statements you make. Hurling insults and evading questions seem to be your strongpoint. I am not going to lower myself to your level.
I am sorry Ed, teach us what you know other than newspaper stories. I am all ears. I just know about several aquisitions and how they work in a mfg enviroment. Maybe your vast experience, you can teach us. Sometimes aquisitions are a good thing, sometimes a bad thing. Depends how they are managed and ultilized. I knowmy company hasvastly improved severalgreat ideas with our strong R&D, and other cases, we were buying patents, not people, and other cases, companies weaquired was to get our foot in thedoor for another market.

I don't think marlin is a public traded company so the high ups must saw some advantage for it. And since you wasn't in the board room to know what those advantages are, then you are speculating and flatulating out your mouth. Tell us differenly ed. Maybe you were in on those deals, and us poor peasants don't know any better.

These are not insults, they are the facts. Unless you were part of those deals.

FA 12-27-2007 09:30 AM
RE: Remington to buyout Marlin
 
I believe Marlin will still make the levergun as always except now it will have the Remington logo on it. I can't see them doing any design changes. If it ain't broke, don't fix it kinda thing. But I can see them raising prices especially on pre-Remington guns. And what does outsourcing have to do with Remington buying Marlin? Nothing is being outsourced between Marlin and Remington. This is kinda like when Bombardier boughtout Evenrude.

oldelkhunter 12-27-2007 09:35 AM
RE: Remington to buyout Marlin
 
I am not going to go on here and explain what I do for a living or any of my business experience which is substantial but I will not discuss it here.u. I am basing my statements on Cerberus modus operand as well as recent events and real world experiences buying products. I am an a privateinvestor as well and do read the newspapers as you put it. I know quite a few people at Remington(management and not middle management either) MAYBE you forget they are right down the road from my houseand possibly some of my neighbors and hunting partners among others could be employees.:DI know how they are run and probably know just a little about them. You never answered my response to the Beretta questions. Your getting worse in your old age and your insults are wearing a little thin. Excuse me if I ignore further postings on your part.

bigcountry 12-27-2007 09:36 AM
RE: Remington to buyout Marlin
 
ORIGINAL: FA

I believe Marlin will still make the levergun as always except now it will have the Remington logo on it. I can't see them doing any design changes. If it ain't broke, don't fix it kinda thing. But I can see them raising prices especially on pre-Remington guns. And what does outsourcing have to do with Remington buying Marlin? Nothing is being outsourced between Marlin and Remington. This is kinda like when Bombardier boughtout Evenrude.
I sure dont' think remington and marlin makes every single piece in house. Maybe someone can go to thier investors reports and find out or has insider news. They have to buy the materials from somewhere. They sure don't make the polermers for their stocks, and I am very sure both does not grow the walnut trees for thier stocks. (Or birch for cheap shotguns). Or mine the ore for their steel. They have to get it from somewhere. And up until now, they have been getting it separately.Now, Marlin might get a better deal on walnut blanks.Marlin had to see some wisdom in it. He had say in the matter. It wasn't like a public company hostile takeover.Or consolidate thier barrel making centers to save money.

I bet ya, remington will never put thier name on it either.

Unless someone on here knows, they don't know. Not all partnerships are a bad thing. We just see the bad news on the TV.


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