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steelerzzz 12-18-2007 09:18 PM

Ammo prices...Yikes
 
Last year I purchased (local Gander Mt.)a box of Rem. 260 accu tip ammo for $22.95. This year the same ammo is $39.95. Unreal..Gettin to be a rich mans sport!

crimedog 12-18-2007 09:42 PM

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Tell me about it, I shoot action pistol and burn some rounds shooting matches and practice.

Mike from Texas 12-18-2007 09:49 PM

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ORIGINAL: steelerzzz

Last year I purchased (local Gander Mt.)a box of Rem. 260 accu tip ammo for $22.95. This year the same ammo is $39.95. Unreal..Gettin to be a rich mans sport!
If you're going to pay a premium price for ammo you may as well get premium ammo.

https://www.dakotaammo.net/shop/product_info.php?cPath=23_143&products_id=291& amp;osCsid=ceef71a47d76291237904ff59ba3c79c


johnnybravoo77 12-18-2007 10:09 PM

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Check out Midway usa, they always have some kind of ammo on sale.

eldeguello 12-19-2007 05:22 AM

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ORIGINAL: steelerzzz

Last year I purchased (local Gander Mt.)a box of Rem. 260 accu tip ammo for $22.95. This year the same ammo is $39.95. Unreal..Gettin to be a rich mans sport!

Yeah! Just try finding a place to hunt these days-you have to be wealthy, and pay big bucks just to hunt a damn deer!

Ammo prices are about to make reloading a cost-saving enterprise once more. Even though the price of bullets and powder is up again, the brass case is still about 75% of the cost of a round of ammo-and people who use factory ammo only throw that away!

oldelkhunter 12-19-2007 08:05 AM

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Last year I purchased (local Gander Mt.)a box of Rem. 260 accu tip ammo for $22.95. This year the same ammo is $39.95. Unreal..Gettin to be a rich mans sport!

Shop at another store or buy thru the mail. Gander mountains pricing plain sucks and they will stick it to their customers everytime. They are a total ripoff.

bigbulls 12-19-2007 09:52 AM

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That's exactly why I am getting an entire reloading set up for Christmas.

It's not the dealers trying to make a big buck either. Dealer cost on regular ole Remington Core Lokt is aproaching $20 a box.

jeepkid 12-19-2007 09:56 AM

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Wait until you look at shot for reloading shotguns. I went up to the new Cabelas in Reno a few weeks ago, and a 25 pound bag was almost $50 !!!!!!!

oldelkhunter 12-19-2007 10:24 AM

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It's not the dealers trying to make a big buck either. Dealer cost on regular ole Remington Core Lokt is aproaching $20 a box
I seriously hope the dealer I now deal with never goes out of business. He has just tons of loaded ammo and reloading supplies and his prices will beat anyones. I purchased 300 WSM Ballistic silvertips for 33 bucks a box 2 weeks ago. Price them at gander and they are close to 40 . He sells just about every cartridge and loads by every name brand manufacturers. FOr example If weatherby loads 3 different bullets for the 257 Weatherby he will have all three loads and 5 boxes of each load and he sells them in the 30's irregardless of type bullet.

I am a reloader and have been for awhile but I sometimes like to buy good stuff from the rack and cheaply. I think I have been in my local ganders a few times in the last few months and I usually walk out with a magazine(to read).

The Famous Grouse 12-19-2007 11:07 AM

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Whileit is common and much-dicussed knowledge thatprice of raw materials, namely lead and copper, have moved higher, I think the retailers like Gander Mountain are using that as an excuse to hike prices way, way, way up.

In general, I find my local Gander's prices to be absolutely laughable. Used guns in particular are priced at joke-like levels. All I can say is ther must be a lot of suckers out there who are willing to pay $485 for a used Tikka in .308 that's beat to hell and has no scope. Come on!

Their ammo prices are sometimes competitive, but many times they're10-25% higher. You really have to know what the price is at other places or you'll get ripped off. Luckily, Sportsman's Warehouse has moved in literally across theroad, sothere is now another option and hopefullythe competition will inject a little reality factor intothe prices at Gander.

Grouse




oldelkhunter 12-19-2007 11:17 AM

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Their ammo prices are sometimes competitive, but many times they're10-25% higher. You really have to know what the price is at other places or you'll get ripped off. Luckily, Sportsman's Warehouse has moved in literally across theroad, sothere is now another option and hopefullythe competition will inject a little reality factor intothe prices at Gander.

There were rumors about a Sportsmen warehouse moving in about an hour from my home and I think they would hurt the local Ganders..

DaveC 12-19-2007 01:16 PM

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Whileplacing an order at Natchez shooting supply todayI noticed they have an ammo price increase warning(5-25% price increase) to take effect in January 2008. http://www.natchezss.com/

waiting_for_a_gift 12-19-2007 03:21 PM

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One angle to consider is that ammo keeps pretty well, and probably will never get cheaper. Buy or load a lifetime supply, and sit there and smile while everyone else bitches.

kirby375 12-19-2007 03:26 PM

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This is exactly why I reload and cast a lot of my own bullets

nchawkeye 12-19-2007 03:55 PM

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We have been seeing this coming for over a year...I bought a case of CoreLokts from WalMart for my .243 at $13.88 a box last year...They have gone up to $14.24...Part of the problem as well is that .260, it costs more to set up the line to load just a few boxes...A more common caliber will save you money because of the economy of scale...

Carpmaster 12-19-2007 07:20 PM

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The metal market has been real crazy the last year and a half or so....

Some retailers are just capitalizing on that, some aren't.....As far as manufacturers go it seems that remington is passing the most cost on...where you see it the most is in super premium non - toxics....tungsten has gone out of this world in price.

The Famous Grouse 12-20-2007 08:57 AM

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ORIGINAL: waiting_for_a_gift
One angle to consider is that ammo keeps pretty well, and probably will never get cheaper. Buy or load a lifetime supply, and sit there and smile while everyone else bitches.
Sadly, I have to agree. I think it's like the price of gas and diesel, we may as well embrace the suck because the good old days of sub-$2 a gallon gas are gone, gone, gone.

I've started buying reloading components in lots of 1000 ormore when it comes to stuff like bullets and primers. Since I handload, I wouldn't go so far as to stockpile loaded ammo, but the components are worth it. It doesn't take a lot of space to store 10,000 bullets, so why not?

I figure if I don't use them, I can always sell what's left, I mean it's not like the market for .223 bullets is going to dry up. Or brass, there's almost always going to be a market for brass.

Powder is one where I'm not going to stock up too much because I like to play with different loads. If I know I'm going out prarie dog shooting, I sometimes will buy a bigger jug of one kind of powder because I'll use a good part of it just reloading the ammo that I shot. Beyond that I don't see any reason to keep a ton of powder around.

Grouse






srwshooter 12-20-2007 09:24 AM

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another thing to consider ,i look for democrates to get in office ,and they may make it harder to powder in the future.

Crittergiter 12-20-2007 09:31 AM

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Seems like every shooting or outdoor catalog that sells ammo has a disclaimer about the price of ammo going up.

Glad I started reloading but now it's time to get another press and start loading for rifles too.

FastShootingCarts 12-20-2007 01:45 PM

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What's the reason ammo prices are going up?

TUK101 12-20-2007 02:04 PM

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ORIGINAL: FastShootingCarts

What's the reason ammo prices are going up?
Metal prices keep going up, regulation on lead, shipping costs have gone up do to hazardous materials regulations. And a lot of the suppliers are jumping on the bandwagon and using these reasons as a reason of thier own to pad the prices that they pass along a bit more.

FastShootingCarts 12-20-2007 02:22 PM

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Thanks.

bigtim6656 12-20-2007 03:24 PM

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therenot going to get into office or atleast i hope not if they do ammo will be the least of our worrys

ORIGINAL: srwshooter

another thing to consider ,i look for democrates to get in office ,and they may make it harder to powder in the future.

bigtim6656 12-20-2007 03:31 PM

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one word guys just one word to explain the ammo cost
WAR we are fighting two of them
look at history when were fighting wars ammo gun gas all metal prices and most other stuff we use in the us go up during world war 2 everything went up Vietnam everything went up Korea and when the cold war was over ammo and gun price went down because of all the surplus from the us and Russia

when the wars are over the prices will go down
if the wars end the way things are going were headed toward ww3 unless a Dem gets into office then we are just headed toward a world with out the US

Carpmaster 12-20-2007 04:32 PM

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For those who keep asking why ammo prices keep going up, I explained it....

Metal prices. The war and some tightened mining BS and China controlling all tungsten mining, etc etc etc...

oldelkhunter 12-20-2007 04:38 PM

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Just saw the alltime high amount charged for a 30-06 cartridge(you know the one that isn't good enough for anything anymore and is a has been) Federal Premium Vital Shok 180 grain MRX bullet. 69.99 at you guessed it my local Gander(if I wore a mask if would be a thief)Mountain. I almost pulled over one of the knowledgeable sales staff when I saw that but I said to self Nah you don't want to drive your Blood pressure any higher.

The Famous Grouse 12-21-2007 12:26 PM

RE: Ammo prices...Yikes
 

ORIGINAL: bigtim6656

one word guys just one word to explain the ammo cost
WAR we are fighting two of them
look at history when were fighting
wars ammo gun gas all metal prices and most other stuff we use in the us go up during world war 2 everything went up Vietnam everything went up Korea and when the cold war was over ammo and gun price went down because of all the surplus from the us and Russia


when the wars are over the prices will go down
I don't believe this to be true in this case.

The main culprit in ammo prices is the price of copper and lead. Lead prices have increased dramatically, from about $500 USD per US ton in 1998, to about $2500 per ton today. And in 1996/early 97 in particular, lead prices spiked at almost $4000 per ton!

Copper prices have followed the same track. On this date in 1998, CU was selling for about $1600 per ton. Today it closed at $6,629 per ton in London.

Both lead and copper are common industrial materials. This issue of the impact of the Iraq war's impact on these commodity prices is practically zero. I can't find an exact figure, but muntions manufacturing does not even appear as one of the top 100 industries that consume copper. At a guess, I'd say on a fraction of a fraction of the world's CU supply goes into ammo every year.

Like oil, the prices are rising because the demand is rising. China's oil consumption doubled in the last 3 years. There are predictions it could double again in the next year and a half. It's not the suppy going down, it's the amount of demand chasing the same supply.

Grouse




bigtim6656 12-21-2007 03:24 PM

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ot sure about ton price but the local scrap yard is giving 1 dollar a pound for cobber which is double what it was a year ago

ORIGINAL: The Famous Grouse


ORIGINAL: bigtim6656

one word guys just one word to explain the ammo cost
WAR we are fighting two of them
look at history when were fighting
wars ammo gun gas all metal prices and most other stuff we use in the us go up during world war 2 everything went up Vietnam everything went up Korea and when the cold war was over ammo and gun price went down because of all the surplus from the us and Russia


when the wars are over the prices will go down
I don't believe this to be true in this case.

The main culprit in ammo prices is the price of copper and lead. Lead prices have increased dramatically, from about $500 USD per US ton in 1998, to about $2500 per ton today. And in 1996/early 97 in particular, lead prices spiked at almost $4000 per ton!

Copper prices have followed the same track. On this date in 1998, CU was selling for about $1600 per ton. Today it closed at $6,629 per ton in London.

Both lead and copper are common industrial materials. This issue of the impact of the Iraq war's impact on these commodity prices is practically zero. I can't find an exact figure, but muntions manufacturing does not even appear as one of the top 100 industries that consume copper. At a guess, I'd say on a fraction of a fraction of the world's CU supply goes into ammo every year.

Like oil, the prices are rising because the demand is rising. China's oil consumption doubled in the last 3 years. There are predictions it could double again in the next year and a half. It's not the suppy going down, it's the amount of demand chasing the same supply.

Grouse





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