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anyone own a "scout" style rifle setup with the scout scope and the whole 9???
share some pics, or what rifle do you have and what scope did you put on it?? just curious...i dont know what made me think about them the other day, but i did and think they would make a dandy PA deer rifle...if i ever buy a deer rifle its going to be a tough decision between a scout setup and a remington pump gun... i think they would make for a supre quick pull up and shoot rifle...and would be a dream to carry around on drives or long hikes...and make hunting the thick woods just a bit easier...i know thats my gripe with the mauser...long, heavy, cumbersome..i would sold it years ago if i didnt know i can build anything i want on the action...and only paid 235 for the sporterized rifle that is a deer killin machine, so no sense gettin rid of it...an action will run me that alone.. |
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I actually just purchased one:D! A Ruger Frontier in .308 with a Nikon forward mounted scope. Took it to the range yesterday and WOW, what a gun! Gun range is only 100 yrds but within 5 minutes i was on target with groups 1&1/2" and under. Just a couple flyers out to 2"s, probably due to barrel heat. Thinl i could have even dialed her in a bit tighter if time would have allowed. I then went on to the woods hoping to put the cross hairs on a hog or deer. didnt see anything but this gun is FAST on target with the scout setup! Its compact size with scout setup is now my FAVORITE!
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You might want to look at some of the bolt action carbines on the market, such as the model 7 remington. Sweet rigs. I have a model 70 short action carbine in .308, very comparable to the model 7, I just love it. I have a 1.5 X 5 X 20 scope on mine, it is very quick on target. Ruger makes a comparable model also.
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thanx for the info...i was actually looking at rugers..not sure who else makes a true scout rifle...but that ruger is a good lookin rifle...
hows the scope mount on that?? not flimsy or cheesy or anything?? if id ever put one together, its going to take a pounding...i cant have anything remotely cheesy or anything...what exzact scope did you put on if you dont mind me asking?? just curious what kind of eye relief they require... |
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waiting for a gift....im kicking around the idea of a true scout rifle...forward mounted scope, barrel shorter than short, light, small, fast handling...and most importantly a solid, good shootin rifle that will take what i dish out...not abuse, but i think if i got around to putting one together, it would be my gun for the thick stuff, still hunting, driving, longggggg mountain hikes etc...
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I have always been bias for Ruger but this gun is no slouch. It is exceptional on quality in my opinion. The scope mounts with theRuger mounting sytem if your familair with it. A mounting system other companies wish they developed lol. It is very sturdy and in my opinion, able to take the abuse (with in reason;)). It can also have a picatinny rail (included) for mounting all the cool tactical style equipment /red dot scope stuff offered forAr15's etc etc. IncludesRuger 1" scope rings too! I will post some pics when i get home tonight. I useda Nikon pistol scope 2x20 EER.This gun requires something in the 9"++ relief for scope. Somecompanies offer "scout" scopes such as Burris and Leupold. They are really nothing but pistol scopes.... Most pistol scopes will have this eye relief. The more power the scope, the longer it takes to get it on targetfast. It also depends on the type of distance your lookingat. Me here inFlorida, my average shot will be 100 yrds so the 2x20 fixed power is perfect.Rather than going to the original Styer Scout at big $$$, this is a sweet gun! FASSSST on target, light and super handy....just what it was designed for. Remember this is a short barreled rifle at 16 1/2", its no 400 yrd weapon but from what ive been told, its a capable 250 yrd gundue totechnoligy and design. Ill post some detailed pics for you.
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Last winter I bought a 10/22 action, used a carbon/fiber brl coupled with a folding stock. It's all stainless with a Nikkon 2x7 pistol scope mounted forward and an attachement for my Surefire lights underneath...I LOVE IT! Best little truck gun there is, if I wanted another rifle (who doesn't?) I'd build it on a Rurger 44mag auto, same type of deal...
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ORIGINAL: mauser06 anyone own a "scout" style rifle setup with the scout scope and the whole 9??? share some pics, or what rifle do you have and what scope did you put on it?? just curious...i dont know what made me think about them the other day, but i did and think they would make a dandy PA deer rifle...if i ever buy a deer rifle its going to be a tough decision between a scout setup and a remington pump gun... i think they would make for a supre quick pull up and shoot rifle...and would be a dream to carry around on drives or long hikes...and make hunting the thick woods just a bit easier...i know thats my gripe with the mauser...long, heavy, cumbersome..i would sold it years ago if i didnt know i can build anything i want on the action...and only paid 235 for the sporterized rifle that is a deer killin machine, so no sense gettin rid of it...an action will run me that alone.. On the other hand, a friend of mine had a Steyr scout w/ the 2X Leupold. It was a different propsition entirely- a great handling gun! |
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This is a "new" concept to alot of people, this scout setup idea, although its been around for yrs. To me there is no faster way to get on target and get a shot off. This is the reason swat teams / military around the world have gone to such a setup. FAST TARGET Acquisition is the name of the game when your hunting shorter range and heavy cover. Try doing this with a standard rifle and a high powered scope. Example- yourdeeror whatever isin heavy cover, at close range and not sticking around for his picture to be taken:).... try this- Go out and pick up your rifle, pick a target at 50-100 yrds..think of this target traveling at aSTEADY pace as if it was on a mission and its in heavy cover. Now see how fast you can get your "high" powered scope with short eye relief on that target and pull a shot while its moving, before it would disappear. Some can do it, some think they can do it and others better not think about it at all LOL... It will be accepted by some and not others. It takes practice. The beauty of this is you hunt with both eyes open, another adopted training method of law enforcement special teams. This allows you to see everything else while staying on your target. Also, something ive found out is you can take a scout rifle or any rifle for that matter, fling it around, pretend going thru the motions, you then can take the scope of choice, peek thru it pretending its on the gun.... but it doesnt all come together until you mate the two together...then its true beauty...my opinions though:D
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Mauser - why not just a Rem Model 7 in 308 Win? Get it in a light weight synthetic with a 4X or 6X scope and you would want never more.
I know what you mean about all day hikes with a heavy rifle. I have an old Sako and a 300 Weatherby. Both are quite heavy. You would think I would get use to it but they get heavier every year :D. My 300 Wby is my every day gun for big game. I dreamed of owning her since I was about 8 years old. I finally pulled the trigger and bought oneat 30 yrs old and I'm not ready to end the honeymoon yet :D. |
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Well, ive tried to post pics but it keeps saying ERROR....ill see what i can do....
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One thing I never hear mentioned about the downbore scopes is their reduced visibility in low light. Unfortunately, that's when the hunting is usually the best.
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to post pics, upload them to your pc, then make a photobucket account(free and stores your pics online and pretty simple..) then copy the image code and paste it in the message...pretty simple and worth while if you spend a decint time on forums or anything...
thanx for the info thus far guys....really dont when i'll get around to it...was just looking for info/pics..scopes etc...i'll get to it one day...for alot of my hunting, thats probably the perfect rifle...though, a remington pump falls to a close second...the forward mounted scope and shooting both eyes open will just allow for a really quick shot... but, ive never had trouble with a 40mm scope set on 3x for close shooting it thick woods...just kinda, overkill carrying a big ole rifle and big ole scope... will actually work out better for me waiting...if i end up in maine or alaska or somewhere(very well may end up there) id like one in a big 30cal...358 or 338 federal sounds nice...make a good bear/elk/moose etc for the still hunting/thick woods hunting...man i bet that little sucker would really lay out some recoil in 358 though:D right now, my gun buying is done till i graduate college except maybe another pistol or 2...i know by the end of summer im gunna need a new vehicle..thats top priority...after that i'll only have a year of college...if i dont settle down, i will be buying as many toys as possible...rather get them while im single and have the cash... but id definently like to play with a scout rifle setup with a forward mounted scope..might be something i like, but i also might not like it.. |
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ORIGINAL: jlbspd This is a "new" concept to alot of people, this scout setup idea, although its been around for yrs. To me there is no faster way to get on target and get a shot off. This is the reason swat teams / military around the world have gone to such a setup. FAST TARGET Acquisition is the name of the game when your hunting shorter range and heavy cover. Try doing this with a standard rifle and a high powered scope. Example- yourdeeror whatever isin heavy cover, at close range and not sticking around for his picture to be taken:).... try this- Go out and pick up your rifle, pick a target at 50-100 yrds..think of this target traveling at aSTEADY pace as if it was on a mission and its in heavy cover. Now see how fast you can get your "high" powered scope with short eye relief on that target and pull a shot while its moving, before it would disappear. Some can do it, some think they can do it and others better not think about it at all LOL... It will be accepted by some and not others. It takes practice. The beauty of this is you hunt with both eyes open, another adopted training method of law enforcement special teams. This allows you to see everything else while staying on your target. Also, something ive found out is you can take a scout rifle or any rifle for that matter, fling it around, pretend going thru the motions, you then can take the scope of choice, peek thru it pretending its on the gun.... but it doesnt all come together until you mate the two together...then its true beauty...my opinions though:D |
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Well, remember we all have our likes and dislikes. Thats what makes this such a great place...we can exchange info, experiences and such, take what we like and apply it:). As for opened eyed high power scopes...you are absolutely right but unfortunately bad habits are hard to break and passed down bad advice is even harder to forget lol. Many people are not able or willing to learn the open eye technic. Its very difficult to use high power and only your dominant eye, but i agree with you eldequello. As for the cumbersome comment....i have to disagree;)i find the forward mounting of a scope is much for user friendly. It puts the scope out in front allowing you a clear instant target acquisition with eye closed or open, moves it away to prevent forehead / scope contact upon fire resulting in a bandaide and some Advil lol..., it allows for easy viewing & access for internal inspection, as for low light, i have found no difference between a scout setup and a standard setup. Feild of view is normally different but then again, with both eyes open its not really an issue. Im a supporter of this setup gosh dangit! HEHEHEEEE how ever you do it, what ever you use, do it well and do it right!:D
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ORIGINAL: jlbspd Well, remember we all have our likes and dislikes. Thats what makes this such a great place...we can exchange info, experiences and such, take what we like and apply it:). As for opened eyed high power scopes...you are absolutely right but unfortunately bad habits are hard to break and passed down bad advice is even harder to forget lol. Many people are not able or willing to learn the open eye technic. Its very difficult to use high power and only your dominant eye, but i agree with you eldequello. As for the cumbersome comment....i have to disagree;)i find the forward mounting of a scope is much for user friendly. It puts the scope out in front allowing you a clear instant target acquisition with eye closed or open, moves it away to prevent forehead / scope contact upon fire resulting in a bandaide and some Advil lol..., it allows for easy viewing & access for internal inspection, as for low light, i have found no difference between a scout setup and a standard setup. Feild of view is normally different but then again, with both eyes open its not really an issue. Im a supporter of this setup gosh dangit! HEHEHEEEE how ever you do it, what ever you use, do it well and do it right!:D Everyone said it pretty well. On my Marlin 1895G, I use a scout system with XS mounts along with a Leupold 2.5 scout scope with Leupold QR rings. For open sights I use the XS Ghost ring set-up with the small appature. It takes some time to get used to using a scout system, but I love it and wouldn't trade it. The advantage of using QR rings is you can remove the scope if you need to use your iron sights and when the scope is reinstalled it will shoot within an inch of where it was sighted in at. This is a great set up for dangerous game and I can tell ya first hand it works. |
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I have toyed with the idea many times but have always seemed to pass it off when other experience riflemen have cautioned me against it. And their cautions were from personal experience with both military converted scout types as well as more modern set-ups.
The biggest complaint was balance and usefullness of the sights compared to regular conventional set-ups. Just not enough benefit and mostly a recognized degradation of funtion. So I have never followed through with the concept.....YET! I still will probably end up doing it in some format or another and then join the ranks of the others that end up preferring standard set-ups. |
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Ive tried to post pics of my Frontier Scouton the TEST FORUM and not sure its right lol..i created a photobucket account and copied/pasted the image code...? if ya have time could you slide on down to the TEST forum and see if it works for you? Thanks
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The one Scout rifle setup I really liked was the Steyr model with the Leupold IER scope. Naturally, since I liked it, it was very expensive. That's the way it works for me. I don't like things I can afford!
As for posting pictures on this web site, you have to post them usingyour own computer picture file, and the size can't exceed 100 K. And this software will only allow one picture per posting..... You browse your computer picture files, and select the one you want to upload. Then click to upload. You will get a message saying the picture was uploaded (or not, if it is too large or something.). THEN, once your pic is accepted, you have to click on "embed picture in post" before you post the whole messge with the pic in it.....  I checked out your test post. It didn't work. You cannot post pics from photobucket on this site-you have to post from your own computer picture file folders.... it woulkd look something like this after it is posted in the message form " |
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Styer Scoutsare too cheap for me.....huh?.... LOL;) i only wish that was the case!!! [8D]Styers are the bomb...but like you said, very $$$$. Cant see parting with that kind of cash for a toy in the near future. Ive got my Ruger Frontier, and if you put it on the other side ofa dim litroom &squint your eyes, it kinda looks like a Styer :D........I guess its just what you like, whether its a a Daisy .177 air rifle or a 50 cal. BMG....they all can kill, and the real issue is how comfortable and how well you shoot what you have. By the way, my Daisy is dead on at 25 yrds HAAAA!! Ill try this pic thing again, thanks for the tips.
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Hope this worked... one of 4 pics!
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I have shot two of them. I do not like them. I found them to be awkward to carry and shoot. LER scopes by their nature are more difficult to see through. I had a hard time with the scope. With a regular rifle scope I never have a hard time. I have the same problem with a pistol-so I use a 1X illuminated pistol scope, that way eye relief is not critical. Tom.
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This takes practice...and since its kind of a"new" concept to most, kind of aforeign idea...it hasnt been used much. For those willing to practice with it, i think opinions would change some. I have never used one setup like this other than my AK47 which is my close quarters weapon. I have always used the traditional setup... i will admit, it was a bit odd to me at 1st too...but after a bit, its become so fast and natural, i dont think ill pick up my other rifles anytime soon unless im hunting open area's at a distance. It has its place if you are comfortable with it. Not trying to change ya guys, just trying to explain my new point of view, coming from a guy who used to think the same;)
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