AR-15 question
 

Hello everyone, I am looking into buying an AR-15 type rifle in .223 caliber. I would use it for coyote hunting mostly. I was curious how much these guns are going to run? Are they hard to clean? Give me any pro's and con's you see. Any and all information will help!

Thanks

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The prices are all over the place depending on the options. You might be able to find a plane jane ar-15 for around $750, but most are going to run closer to $900. You'll probably want to mount a scope, so te best option would be an A3 upper (flat top) which usually ads about $50 to the cost of a rifle (if it comes with a removeable carrying handle). You'll want a free float tube which adds another $100, and you might end up changing out the trigger for another $150. With all of the options, you'll be looking at well over a thousand. For about $1100 Bushmaster and a few other manufacturers make a AR set up for varmint hunting, which might be the best bet if that's what you plan to use it for.

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i had tw one a new bushmaster cost me 999 new i bought a ar from the indyswat team gunsmith that had a bushmaster lower and a dpms upper good gun 800 for it

i would go with bushmaster which will cost you around 850 to 900 get a removable carry handle not just a flat top with the carry handle they look more like a military gun and are good for close shooting

or go with colt or dpms most other makers are either cheap or cost to much i would not go changing the trigger or anything unless you plan to shoot comp. there fine stock plan on arond 1000 atless there good guns and i plan to bu another bushmaster soon

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I dont know about the prices, but I do know that an AR-15 in a .223 caliber is one of the best yote, bobcat, and fox guns made. I hunt for fur and have always wanted an AR.

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I have a Bushmaster ORC w/16 barrel. I purchased it new with a (cheap) BEC 6x24x50 scope. This rifle is great for deer/yotes/you name it. OnceI broke it in I get sub 1"groups @ 200 yds. and am on my way to the long distance range (800 yds ) as soon as the weather gets a little better here.

Once you get a AR you will be amazed at all of the options that are available and opened up to you. I am fixing to get a dedicated upper w/ 20 bull barrel.

Enjoy the new rifle when you get it.

By the way- back to your original question-- My setup-- ORC w/scope and Harris bipod 1082, 30 round mag. anda 5 round mag.complete-- tax and all.

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Check out the new R-15 that Remington is coming out with. Its based on an AR and is pretty much the same, but in full camo, and I think its supposed to have a better trigger. Its gonna be in .204 Ruger, and .223 Rem, with 2 different barrel lengths, and the website says sugg. retail of $999 I think.. A buddy of mine with a gun shop priced one for me and it was much less. Ive never had any interest in an AR, but I want one of these.

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Heres a pic..

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CMMG is selling Bargain Bin flattops for $570 right now...will need to buy an optic or sight to mount to it, so add that and the cost of a few magazines (check to see if your state has restrictions on hunting with hi-capacity magazines or not)--but be sure to get a few 30 rounders just in case (you never know when those are gonna get hard to buy/expensive again, like during the 10 years of the "assault weapon ban")

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I have a bush carbine A3, and one thing, its not that accurate. I am going to try some handloads soon. Second, since start shooting AR's, I find them a bear to clean. I feel I can't get out all the grime and nastyness. I am so used to cleaning bolts where no residue at all.

I would buy a rock river 20" heavy barrel for coyote hunting. Also, I paid 1K for my carbine.

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Define "not that accurate" and what kind of ammo are you using?

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5MOA accuracy with M193, 855, wolf 55gr, and wolf 62gr. Shoots slightly better with remington UMC. No, I have not shot quality ammo thru it and dont' plan on it. But yes, I have seen other AR's shoot all these much better. Like 2MOA.

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I bought a CMMG stripped lower, I installed a RRA parts kit, RRA NM 2-stage trigger. Topped it off with a Bushmaster Varminter upper and a Cabelas Tactical 6-18x40. It is a legitimate 1/2" at 100yrd rifle, I was super impressed with it. Total cost was probably around $1300.

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That is horrendous...I do understand Wolf to be of horrible accuracy, but I would expect about 2MOA from the other loads...gotta be a major malfunction somewhere.

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NEVER HAD A PROPLEM WITH WOLF IN MINE i found just about any ammo to be ok in the ars i would a lower from one company and a upper from anoher just buy a complete gun from one company . also not sure i would buy a stripped lower and USE a bunch of differnt parts from differnt companys if you buy a good gun buy good ammo your get good groups

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I'm just looking around at these rifles, and seen a few in magazines, its basically a tinkered with version of the M-14 right? wich is pretty close to the C-7.
I wouldn't be too concerned with cleaning them, I can strip my rifle in about 50 seconds, not including taking the bolt apart wich comes apart pretty fast too. (stipping is having hand guards off and disassembled, upper and lower receivers apart, the spring and piston removed)
they really aren't that hard to clean, as I doubt you will ever clean them to the standard we have to. Some people can be dead accurate with these, and some people have a hard time, comes down to shooting style and being smooth.

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Here are two I use for fur bearers....Bushmaster and aKel....

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the pistol how is it a pistol or rifle like when you buyone is it as a pistol or a longgun

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The Kel isa(PLR-16)Pistol Long Range.I put a MB on it and if you dont have hearing protection on youll feel like you just blew out your ear and there bleeding...trust me....
Some of the guys at the range blew me off when I told em to cover there ears,they go its only a .223 how loud can it be....too loud I guess:D.I think I will take the MB off this summer,it sure helps tho....Iam good out to 150 yrds with it on bench..

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As has been posted before, prices are all over the map with these. I'd look for most of the decent ones to fall in the $750-$1000 range.

I've owned a Colt Gov't model for years and lately picked up a Rock River (RRA) Entry Tactical. I haven't hunted coyotes "on purpose" for quite a few years, but stumble upon them from time to time. I think the longest shot I'vemade was a hair over 300 yards, the rifle (the Colt) bone stock except for a cheap 3x scope which has since been replaced with a good mount and a Leupold3x9I was trying to figure out what to do with. I'm really impressed so far with the Rock River on the range, but haven't broken it in on a coyote yet.

Cleaning can be a challenge. Since the gas system opens directly into the bolt and upper receiver, the effect is going to be a lot messier than, say, the closed system on the M14/M1A or your daddy's Model 1100 Remington.That said, using a good solvent and with a little attention to detail, it disassembles very easily and cleans up well. Just about anyone you know who's been in the service (particularly the Army or Marine Corps) can help you field strip and clean it.

Lots of magazines available, and neither of my rifles seem to prefer one mfr over the other (none of my issued M16s or M4s did, either). Lots of different ammo out there, too. Generally, I'd say the cheaper it is, the "dirtier" it is when it comes to cleaning.

And, the rifle's modular nature leaves all the possibilities up to you. I think you'll find the stock rifles are going to work well in most coyote hunting applications, and as you save up money here or there, you can "accessorize" it to whatever extent you wish.

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Believe you are thinking of the M1A:


This is the AR-15 (think this is an Airsoft version, but you get the idea):

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I am in Iraq right now and use an M-4. I dont have much experience with civilian models, but I can tell you that cleaning is a bit of a challenge. Its not too hard if you keep the rifle cleaned constantly. If it is clean when you take it out to use then it makes it much easier to clean once you are done shooting. Q-tips and pipe cleaners definantlyhelp out. I do have to admit that when I fist had the rifle I was thinking it would be a piece of crap, but it is really fun to shoot and is making me think about buying one when I get back home.

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i hope youstay safe and thanks from the bottom of my heart for protecting our freedom and the freedom of the iraq people

i cleaned my ar everytime i shot it i found that if i did not that it might jam up i loved the gun and once you get it down cleaning gets better but i also found that the easy of removeing the upper makes it alot easyer then cleaning a gun that i one peice every time i cleaned it i removed the upper and would take most of he parts apart for the upper
another thing do not go shoot 3 or 400 rounds through one and put it in a foam lined case because you wont have much foam left and a good amont of time cleaning it off the barrel

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Nope, deffinately do not shoot the M1A, thats something that our Cadets would use. My C-7 looks like that airsoft gun that you posted, so it looks almost identical to the remington R-15 aside from the hand guards and the paint job. I beleive I have an M1A in the closet at my grandparents tho.

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if anyone wnt a good pic of the ar go to bushmaster.com