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tsoc 11-26-2007 07:18 PM

Remington corelokt
 
I had a not so great experience recently with a Remington Corelokt bullet.I held for a shoulder shot on a buck at close range,30 to 35 yards.Long story short I hit the deer exactly where I was intending to but the bullet literally blew up upon impact.Certainly crippled the deer but didn't get in to his chest cavity.I was stunned.While he certainly would have died as a result of the first shot,I shot him again at about 60 yards to put him down for good.
.270caliber 130 grain bullet.I have alternated between corelokt's and federal premiums Barnes X bullet.I have hadthe Barnes X zip through with very little expansion though.I am considering going back to Nosler partition's or Accubonds or the Trophy Bonded bear claws.
I would be intersted to hear some views as to the reasoning for the blow up and what bullets have been proven performers for you.
The only thing I can think of is close shot and the speed of the bullet.I want to use up the ammunition I have but unless I have to I am going to stay away from the shoulders.I am not looking to have this be a conversation about shot placement.I have always been a chest cavity or shoulder shooter depending upon what I am given.

8mm/06 11-26-2007 07:25 PM

RE: Remington corelokt
 
With 270 velocities and being that close I think you just experienced a blow up that can happen with normal shelf ammo when you're up real close and stricke some bone. The core-loct isn't the hardiest of loads but usually does fine with normal conditions. You were a trifle close but I'd be disappointed in that performance. I'd run it by Remington.

You are correct to consider that the Partition would have probably performed better, but who knows, it may have just gone one through with little expansion........

ipscshooter 11-26-2007 08:23 PM

RE: Remington corelokt
 
I use Core Lokt ammo in my .243 and I've never had one that didn't completely penetrate a whitetail.

Ideaman 11-26-2007 08:52 PM

RE: Remington corelokt
 
That does not sound like the norm. I agree, ask BIG GREEN.

Paulpskp 11-26-2007 09:11 PM

RE: Remington corelokt
 
I use them in my inline muzzleloader and the few deer that I hit at close range the bullets mushroomed just like there suppose to. Also did a great job on the tree that I hit when I missed a deer.

Doe Dumper 11-26-2007 10:30 PM

RE: Remington corelokt
 
I shot 2 bucks last week with 140's from the 7-08. One shot through both shoulders and exited...the other went through the entire length of the deer and exited. I couldnt ask for bette rperformance than what they have been giving me. What happened to you was definitely not typical for them.

New York Hunter 11-26-2007 10:59 PM

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I've shot four deer using Remington's Core Lokt ammo. One with my 280 Rem., two with my308 Win. and one with my 35 Rem. I shot two of them in the shoulder. Onewith my 280 using 140 gr. Core Lokts and one with my 308 using 150 gr. Core Lokts. Both were bang-flops.Neither deer took another step. Both bullets went through both shoulders and exited leaving a quartersize exit wound.My 280 was about a 50 yard shot and my308 was about a 75 yard shot. I was pretty happy with their performance. Bullets arelike anything else that's manufactured. Something can always go wrong. Sounds to me like something might have gone wrongwith that particular bullet you used. [/align][/align]

DM 11-27-2007 08:55 AM

RE: Remington corelokt
 
About 3 years ago my brother shot a nice buck with his 270 from his tree stand. (that he also bow hunts out of) The deer stopped almost under him, when he fired... The buck fell but was thrashing around moveing off, so he shot it again... He was using 130 Corloks and the bullets blew up going in, blowing open a fair sizedhole. He has now switched to handloading 130 NP's...

A couple weeks ago his SILshot a nice buck from an elevated stand "at close range" with "his" 270, hitting a rib and the same thing happened! He ended up shooting it 3 times before it stayed down for good...

So, i believe what the origional poster wrote, the 270, 130's Corlokts many times just can't take that high of an impact velocity without coming apart... They are designed to be a longer range bullet, working best after it has slowed down a bit.

As for those posting arout how well "their" Corloks have performed, that's just not relevant to what 270 130's are doing... They are a completely different bullet, even though they havethe same name...

DM

oldelkhunter 11-27-2007 09:01 AM

RE: Remington corelokt
 
If your shooting bone at high velocity close shots you'll have to use a sturdier bullet.No if's ands or buts or use a slower velocity cartridge which will do just fine...35 rem 30/30 44 mag 444 mag 45/70 and use standard cup bullets

JimPic 11-27-2007 12:01 PM

RE: Remington corelokt
 
I used to shoot coreloks out of my 25-06 but they were just too explosive--very accurate but didn't hold together too well

oldelkhunter 11-27-2007 12:04 PM

RE: Remington corelokt
 

shot 2 bucks last week with 140's from the 7-08. One shot through both shoulders and exited...the other went through the entire length of the deer and exited. I couldnt ask for bette rperformance than what they have been giving me. What happened to you was definitely not typical for them.
That's because those WV deer aren't as well built as deer elsewhere:D

8mm/06 11-27-2007 02:00 PM

RE: Remington corelokt
 

ORIGINAL: oldelkhunter


shot 2 bucks last week with 140's from the 7-08. One shot through both shoulders and exited...the other went through the entire length of the deer and exited. I couldnt ask for bette rperformance than what they have been giving me. What happened to you was definitely not typical for them.
That's because those WV deer aren't as well built as deer elsewhere:D
Ouch ...[8D]

oldelkhunter 11-27-2007 02:11 PM

RE: Remington corelokt
 
One other thing to remember is that the Corelockt bullet has changed from the ones made in the 70's and 80's the new ones have a thinner jacket. If you want to approximate the old Corelockt buy the Corelockt bonded bullet

Doe Dumper 11-27-2007 02:22 PM

RE: Remington corelokt
 
LOL@OEH :D Im hoping if they are that easy that I can just say BOO and watch em flop! :D I been told Im not the prettiest hunter out there but that may be stretching it just a shade [:@]



I've shot em from 5 yards to 300 yards and have yet to see any problem. I cant imagine that extra 100-150 fps out of the 270 makes that much of a difference to make a nearly failproof bullet into a flying grenade. I've still got a perfectly mushroomed core lokt that I recovered from just under the skin on the rear quarter of an 8 point after having went from one end of the deer to the other and still weighs over 100 grains sitting on the computer desk here. They may have a different construction but it kinda makes me wanna load the 270 up and go try them out. I shot prob 60-70 deer with the 270 before switching to the 7-08 but I mostly used the blue box Federals. The 270 as a rule to me seems to be pretty unpredictable at those very close ranges....meaning I always got the deer but meat damage went from minimal to extreme. Maybe that last 100-150 fps does make that big of a difference...but in this 7-08...I will use nothing else as long as I am only busting the Bambi patch as EKM would say.

oldelkhunter 11-27-2007 02:38 PM

RE: Remington corelokt
 

LOL@OEH :D Im hoping if they are that easy that I can just say BOO and watch em flop! :D I been told Im not the prettiest hunter out there but that may be stretching it just a shade [:@]



Didn't EKM once say that all you need to kill a deer is a sharp stick ?:D

I have DRT'd every deer shot at close or long range with a 270,06 or a 308 using Corelockts...of course there is some more meat damage at close range.

Wolf killer 11-28-2007 10:18 AM

RE: Remington corelokt
 
My wife had a bullet blow up on a antelope buckat close range. My faher had the same thing happen to him, on a whitetail buck. Both were shooting Federal "blue box" ammo, both shots were inside 50-yards. Both shots were to the shoulder.
I recommend switching to core-lokt ultra bonded or nosler partitions.


Good luck hunting

handloader1 11-28-2007 03:00 PM

RE: Remington corelokt
 
Go with a Nosler Partition; one has to have confidence in their equipment. Good luck.

bigcountry 11-28-2007 04:07 PM

RE: Remington corelokt
 
You know looking back, I used the corelokt since I was 12 up to maybe 24 or 25. Never had one issue besides accuracy. All kinds of shots,shoulder shots, neck shots, texas heart shots, lung/heart of course.

But started reloading, and felt the need to use partitions, felt I needed a tougher bullet so started TBBC, then then grand slams, barnes due to fouling of TBBC, then swift A-frames, now accubond. I in the last 2 years have moved back to ballistic tips and gamekings, and if things keep moving the same, one day, I might be reloading corelokts:D.

If one has consistent bullet issues, then that person needs to look at themselves and thier shots.

Corelokts are cheap bullets but get the job done. I don't like thier shape variations or thier wieght varations, but overall, good bullets.

heeze gutshot shortee 11-28-2007 05:17 PM

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tsoc.....check your ammo..sometimes factory ammo has flaws..look for odd shapes, bulges, wrinkles,etc...Id contact REM if you find any oddities or just to tell your story.. Iv used coreloks and theyve never behaved as youve described

270 bdl 11-28-2007 06:36 PM

RE: Remington corelokt
 
Try a 150 gr. speer or hornady.

TUK101 11-28-2007 10:54 PM

RE: Remington corelokt
 
That close of a shot you may want to aim just behind the shoulder, not straight through. I shot one last year at the same distance with my .270 and shot it through the ribs (I know, some of you will say waisted meat, but really how much meat is there on the ribs) and the deer just dropped and never took another breath or kick. The hole on the exit side was about the size of a coffee can, which surprised me with a lil .270 bullet. The point being, with nearly 3000 fps a shot that close is carrying a lot of energy and it has to go somewhere, if you hit solid bone like you did at that close of distance there is a good chance that even the best of bulletsmight grenade. At least you wounded him well enough that you where able to get a second shot off.


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