Krieger barrels
11-24-2007, 03:11 PM
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Fork Horn
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Krieger barrels
I'm getting my .257 Roberts re-barreled because I've become obsessed with precision, don't know why, maybe I'm more OCD than I like to think.
Anyway, I've looked at Hart, Shilen, Lilja and Krieger. Lilja does not offer rebarreling so that's another step after buying the barrel. Hart is an option but they only make stainless and I'm leaning towards Cro-moly and keeping the classic blue gloss. I forget if Shilen makes a cro-moly barrel but Krieger does and there services seem pretty reasonable. Has anyone used Krieger to do a rebarrel job and if so are you happy with the results, customer service etc. I thought I read of someone not liking their Krieger barrel, was that Big Country?
So to this Ruger M77 MKII I have a new trigger (Timney), new stock (H-S Precision, spruce green with black) and now a new barrel.
Oh yeah, since I'm getting it rebarreled should I get it rechambered to .257 AI? Any advantage to the AI?
Anyway, I've looked at Hart, Shilen, Lilja and Krieger. Lilja does not offer rebarreling so that's another step after buying the barrel. Hart is an option but they only make stainless and I'm leaning towards Cro-moly and keeping the classic blue gloss. I forget if Shilen makes a cro-moly barrel but Krieger does and there services seem pretty reasonable. Has anyone used Krieger to do a rebarrel job and if so are you happy with the results, customer service etc. I thought I read of someone not liking their Krieger barrel, was that Big Country?
So to this Ruger M77 MKII I have a new trigger (Timney), new stock (H-S Precision, spruce green with black) and now a new barrel.
Oh yeah, since I'm getting it rebarreled should I get it rechambered to .257 AI? Any advantage to the AI?
11-24-2007, 03:32 PM
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Giant Nontypical
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RE: Krieger barrels
I have never had Krieger rebarrel a rifle,but I do have a Krieger barrel on a 7mmstw.If fouled a bit when new,but that quickly tapered off,and accuracy averages 1/2 moa.Currently my favorite barrels are Schneider and Gaillard,since both are as accurate as any other barrel yet neither ever fouled nearly as much as other barrels.
11-24-2007, 05:56 PM
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RE: Krieger barrels
I have never have had Krieger install a barrel, either. I do have CM Krieger barrel on my .338-06, though. I had the rifle built back in '97 or '98, and I've got over 1000 rounds through it so far. The rifle still shoots very well.
I have a .280 AI, and I plan to build another rifle with an AI chamber. I would buy another Krieger barrel, but for the next project I want a lightweight stainless .223 AI, and Krieger doesn't offer a light-contour SS barrel. I will probably go with a Pac-Nor barrel, and have them do the chamber and install (my smith doesn't have that particular reamer).
I have a .280 AI, and I plan to build another rifle with an AI chamber. I would buy another Krieger barrel, but for the next project I want a lightweight stainless .223 AI, and Krieger doesn't offer a light-contour SS barrel. I will probably go with a Pac-Nor barrel, and have them do the chamber and install (my smith doesn't have that particular reamer).
11-24-2007, 06:24 PM
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RE: Krieger barrels
ORIGINAL: pa257
I'm getting my .257 Roberts re-barreled because I've become obsessed with precision, don't know why, maybe I'm more OCD than I like to think.
Anyway, I've looked at Hart, Shilen, Lilja and Krieger. Lilja does not offer rebarreling so that's another step after buying the barrel. Hart is an option but they only make stainless and I'm leaning towards Cro-moly and keeping the classic blue gloss. I forget if Shilen makes a cro-moly barrel but Krieger does and there services seem pretty reasonable. Has anyone used Krieger to do a rebarrel job and if so are you happy with the results, customer service etc. I thought I read of someone not liking their Krieger barrel, was that Big Country?
So to this Ruger M77 MKII I have a new trigger (Timney), new stock (H-S Precision, spruce green with black) and now a new barrel.
Oh yeah, since I'm getting it rebarreled should I get it rechambered to .257 AI? Any advantage to the AI?
I'm getting my .257 Roberts re-barreled because I've become obsessed with precision, don't know why, maybe I'm more OCD than I like to think.
Anyway, I've looked at Hart, Shilen, Lilja and Krieger. Lilja does not offer rebarreling so that's another step after buying the barrel. Hart is an option but they only make stainless and I'm leaning towards Cro-moly and keeping the classic blue gloss. I forget if Shilen makes a cro-moly barrel but Krieger does and there services seem pretty reasonable. Has anyone used Krieger to do a rebarrel job and if so are you happy with the results, customer service etc. I thought I read of someone not liking their Krieger barrel, was that Big Country?
So to this Ruger M77 MKII I have a new trigger (Timney), new stock (H-S Precision, spruce green with black) and now a new barrel.
Oh yeah, since I'm getting it rebarreled should I get it rechambered to .257 AI? Any advantage to the AI?
I do have a feeling my bad fouling could have been my ream job by my gun smith. All the fouling was at throat. I don't think he hand lapped my throat. And it also developed heat cracks at 600 rounds or less.
11-25-2007, 11:53 AM
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: Krieger barrels
Bigcountry,there's a real good chance of reamer chattering and leading to the heatcracks in throat if they are showing up pretty early. Gases look for uneven places such as from reamer chatter(gunsmith in too big of a hurry and/or not cleaning out chips often enough),burrs,or sharp corners. In revolvers such as the .460 s&w,this leads to frame cutting.
11-25-2007, 02:48 PM
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RE: Krieger barrels
ORIGINAL: stalkingbear
Bigcountry,there's a real good chance of reamer chattering and leading to the heatcracks in throat if they are showing up pretty early. Gases look for uneven places such as from reamer chatter(gunsmith in too big of a hurry and/or not cleaning out chips often enough),burrs,or sharp corners. In revolvers such as the .460 s&w,this leads to frame cutting.
Bigcountry,there's a real good chance of reamer chattering and leading to the heatcracks in throat if they are showing up pretty early. Gases look for uneven places such as from reamer chatter(gunsmith in too big of a hurry and/or not cleaning out chips often enough),burrs,or sharp corners. In revolvers such as the .460 s&w,this leads to frame cutting.
That barrel felt very consistent and would shoot .5MOA until it got copper fouled. I could push a patch down the barrel and was the most consistent barrel I had. But the barrel would build pressure quickly. I hate bad mouthing kreiger when I don't know if it was thier fault or my smiths.
11-25-2007, 04:37 PM
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: Krieger barrels
I just ordered a new 28 inch 22 caliber Krieger barrel. I wanted a 22-250AI. My gunsmith has a standard 22-250 reamer, but not the AI. He said that he would order a new reamer(at my expense). But he refused to rent a reamer. He said he did not trust a rented reamer, he was adament about it. So I am going with the standard 22-250, and I am having the action blueprinted, with the action threads being redone also.
Now all I have to decide on is the trigger.
The action was a new Remington LH 700 VSF in 22-250. Does anyone know anyone who needs a brand new Remington(22-250) barrel, I wii treat them right. Tom.
Now all I have to decide on is the trigger.
The action was a new Remington LH 700 VSF in 22-250. Does anyone know anyone who needs a brand new Remington(22-250) barrel, I wii treat them right. Tom.