Ruger V. Remington
 

So, as some of you may know I have been looking for a new hunting rifle. I finally decided, (I think) on .270. However, the Remington .270 is $160 or so more than the Ruger. I couldn't find anyone to tell me why. Could it be just the remington name? What gives? And is it worth the extra $160?

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Depends on which model Rem and which modelRuger and personal preferance.

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i would go with ruger, they make good rifled, but so does rem.

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Either are good rifles. I think the Ruger makes a slightly better rifle though. Also have you thought about Tikka? I just got a T3 Stainless Lite for $608.

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Based on what?

Personally I think that Remington's rifles blow Ruger's totally out of the water. The fit, finish, and accuracy are far and away better on Rems. If you get a good shooting Ruger, you probably got the 1 in 10 gun. About one in ten will be a real nailer. One in ten will also be a total dog. The other 8 will all shoot sub 2" groups. Just my experience, and I've only been selling, fixing and dealing professionally in guns for 7 years now. Been shooting a lot longer.

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I find the action on the Ruger to be pretty sloppy compared to the Remington. Rugers are less in price and do come with a set or rings being a plus but I find Remington rifles a little better in quality. As for accuracy I can’t comment on my Ruger because I haven’t shot it yet , however my brother has never complained about his Ruger...

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I've own 3 Rugers M-77 mk II,300 win mag , 30-06 , and the most recent addition a .270. All of myrifles are stock out the box and all good shooters, they are not match rifles . Ruger actions are control feed vs push feed on the Rems and I tend to favor Rem triggers , but thats just personel preference.

I also have several Rems with my newest being a CDL in 30-06 that I bought a few months ago they too are good shooters .
Overall you wont go wrong with either .

Decisions decissions .....

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well i think both shoot bothand see if you can andit might be more because it could be a newer model or it has more acceserys or just because it says rem. on it 90 of allguns your going to pay 30% for that name i had a marlin 3030 done just as good as the win but the win. said win on it so it was like 100 bucks more

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I'dgo Ruger. Sturdy and dependable. Built tough. There's a reason the Mauser-style action has been *the* action for the last 100+ years.

Rugershave a reputation as having bad triggers, but the 'bad' ones aren't all THAT bad and the newer ones have been decent, even good. Either way, it's a cheap ($50 +/-) easy fix, so it's hardle even a knock against them anyway.

Fit and finish? Look for yourself. I find it laughable that anyone would say Rugers take a backseat in this area to a company that produces the 710.

Accuracy? I've had zero problems. None. Either the accuracy 'issues' that others have alluded to areexaggerated or I've been *really* lucky and just happen to get 'shooters' when I get a Ruger.

And yes, I realize it's just a rimfire, but when I shoot a Remington 597, I don't exactly get a warm fuzzy feeling that instills confidence in me that I'm dealing with a company who really cares about quality from top to bottom.

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Neither.

If you want a controlled feed rifle, buy a CZ.
If you want a push feed, get a Tikka.

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I would suggest a savage myself.

Or even a stevens and then put the extra money towards a better scope.

Paul

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I own two Rugers and as much as I like the looks and mauser action I would get a Remington for the reason if you ever want to get a custom rifle most buildersprefer the 700 action. At least that's what I found in my research of custom builders.

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well i would look into a used win 70, just my opinion.

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Remington. I own a 700 bolt action, and a semi-auto, both chambered for .270. Both are accurate and dead reliable. I would recommend Remington's to everybody.

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Ruger makes a pretty nice rifle. However, our military snipers use the remington.

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I must speak up in defense of Ruger. But first, I must say that my experience with Ruger rifles is pretty much based on ones made before about 1990. The ones I've tested, both M77's and No. 1's, would all shoot 1.5 MOA or better with handloaded ammunition. Some much better.For example, my No. 1B 7mm Rem Mag will shoot several loads, using 140, 160, and 175-grain bullets, into 1" @ 200 yards. Most others, including a No. 3 in .30/40, are at least half as good.

I will admit that Remington BOLT-Action rifles have an excellent reputation for accuracy. Some of their others aren't so great, especially their semi-autos!

I can't speak for factory ammo, because I just don't use any!

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The "custom builders" who prefer a Remington action prefer it because the round receiver is much easier and faster to inlet, due to being round in cross-section. But a custom rifle should have a custom trigger, and a better safety setup than you get with a Model 700 Remington action. For a safety, I much prefer the tang type that is on the older Model 77Rugers, some Mannlicher-Schoenauers, andmanycustom rifles made in Germany....

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Based on my 37 years of gun experience in the field and on the work bench. I'd say you don't have a clue about Rugers and or Remingtons. But that's just my opinion like your's one sided.

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Yes, since they changed their site.

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Thanks, I always wondered why the 700 action was the prefered action. I agree that a custom gun should have a custom trigger and on most of the builders sites it appears that the trigger is replaced, don't know about the safety. I know of one that will use the Model 70 a well.

As for safeties, I like the tang on my M77 .270 but I feel that the 3-way safety is a "safer" safety, especially for hunting.

I see the Aggies beat Texas, 2 years in a row! My wife is an A&M grad ('89)and I guess she would say Gig 'em Aggies (whatever that means).

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I personally would get the Remington. IMO, they look better, cycle smoother, and are easier to work with. On the flip side, you save $150 on the Ruger and get a rifleI can't deny is a workhorse. More to spend on glass and any gunsmithing jobs you're interested in (bedding, trigger). Either way you'll get a good shooting rifle and you'll probably spend the same on either when it's all said and done.

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I would get the ruger.They are tough as nails and I have never had one that wouldnt shoot .I dont know where that came from but .... The trigger isstiff but its not that bad for a hunting rifle.If you are going to shoot 400 to 1000 yards then you will need a trigger job.I just like the mauser action and if you get the MKII target that laminated stock is strong and the rifle will shoot

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The phrase"Gig 'em" originated with the Corps of Cadets. The term "gig" is slang for "demerit". Whenever an upperclassman or tactical officer found something amiss with the maintenence of a cadet's uniform or dorm room, a certain number of demerits could be assessed. Kinda like points for driving offenses. After the accumulation of a certain number of demerits, the cadet would have to "walk off" the demerits by marching punishment tours with rifle in the quandrangle between dorms.

So "gig 'em" means "inflict punishment" upon them.

I prefer the Ruger claw extractor. It positively removes fired cases each and every time. I have experienced extraction problems with both Remington M 721's and M 700's. The extractor is the major faux pas of the 700-series designers. In addition, the Ruger has a one-piece solid steel forged bolt, whereas the Remington bolt handles are soldered on, and every once in awhile, one comes off! Usually at the worst possible time. Not good! I would never use a Model 700 as a dangerous game rifle.

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I own 3 Ruger Model 77 rifles in 30.06, 7mm.08, and 7mm Rem. Magnum. They are solid and dependable hunting rifles priced right.

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I'd also go Ruger before Rem. I'm surprised that anyone would say that a Rem can compete with a Ruger in fit and finish. Seems to me that Ruger has Rem pretty beat on this one.

As for accuracy I've had an issue with my Ruger but it is relatively resoled and the gun is shooting about an 1" right now. Need more shooting time to know 100% for sure. I had a Timney trigger put in mine and I floated myself. I also had the lugs glass bedded. Total additional cost to me was $180.

I'd take a long look at the Mod 70. Older ones.

Tom

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stuck on RUGER

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Thanks for all the advice guys. Now that rifle season is done I think I'm gonna wait for the sales to start. Or maybe I'll just treat myself to a Christmas gift.

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WHOOOOOOOP!!!!

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Reality is it's a crap shoot when buying rifles anymore especially American made rifles. Your odds of finding a more reliable drag thru the mud rugged rifle lie with the Ruger. There are the old typical wives tales about their bad barrels but that happened when they were making tang safety guns and an outside vendor supplied their barrels, they make a much much better barrel now. Of course you'll have to get a new trigger or modfy the current and get those rings lapped.r When you find a good remington[:@]it usually is a great shooter but accuracy is only one part of the equation. If you look for a Remington try and get an older BDL SS or 80's version and if you find one with an ISS replace it with a real firing pin assemblyl. I went the SPS route a few months ago and the scope mounting screws were drilled and tapped by a blind drunk monkey. I showed it to my gunsmith and all he could say is "Thank God for Leupold Rotary Dovetail mounts" it was that bad. I think I used +20 inserts on the front and -20 inserts(Burris Signature) to get the scope aligned. It was off 18" POI at the 100 yard target that is how bad it was. When I looked thru my scope at the collimator it looked like a set of binoculars. It went back to Remington and was fixed bottom line but I don't own it anymore.

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Id go ruger. Theyre much more durable and dependable, especially up to longer ranges. Why the .270?

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I have had problems with Ruger Claw extraction on a M77 in 338win mag. Took a shot at a cow elk and could not extract case. Finally got case out and tried to extract a live round and it wouldn't. Had to finish the hunting season with a Remingto 700 in 8mm Rem. mag.

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Love the ruger rifles. I got me an older model m77 with tang safety and red but pad in 7mm mag and it's still shooting as good as it did or beter then the day i got it. And trust me that rifle has gone through punishments hunting all over america and canada but mostly wisconsin and minnesota.

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I am not a push feed fan myself....i would always go with the ruger. i really dunno why the remington costs that much more.

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It's funny, but folks start talking about rifle brands that the initial poster never mentioned, then they talk about trigger jobs, free floating, lapping the rings.....etc.... and all the fellow asked was ruger or remington....

I own two rugers, and three remingtons, as well as a few other brands, and I would say Buy the Ruger....

I have never had any problems with either of my rugers.....M77 Mark II stainless / syn. and a M77 Compact , stainless / laminate... The safety's are practicle and sure , the fit is nice, and they shoot well..... accuracy is better than most typical hunters can shoot. Straight out of the box, if you do your part, the gun will do its part.

Now, there is nothing wrong with the Remingtons..... but there is also nothing wrong with the Rugers, and they cost less and come with the scope rings...... the bases are integral, built into the gun.

My rifles are all straight out of the box, with no extra work of any kind, and none of my rings are lapped, or anything else.... Buy the gun , mount the scope, sight it in and enjoy.... The gun will last you a lifetime. And if you wanted a custom rebarrel, I doubt you would be looking at a Ruger M77 or a Rem. SPS... So go for the Ruger and save yourself some $$$, that you might want to put towards the scope......

Hope this answers your question.....

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I vote Ruger! I own several and never one lick of problem. I too must laugh at such a strong statement as for accuracy and fit and finish:D...Ruger is in my opinion a top notch weapon. Ruger has set many high standards for others to follow.... Im not saying Rem's are not a good choice,,,they are damn great rifles! I just feel Ruger is an overall better choice:)cant go wrong either way though....