.410 question????
 

Does Wal-mart carry a .410 single shot? I haven't been there in a while and I don't remember seeing one. I am thinking about getting one for my 7 year old sister. How much would a used one cost? I am 11 and I am going to mow yards, do house repairs, and make websites for money. I am also trying to buy a Mossberg 835 for $260 at Wally-World. Any replies would be greatly appreciated.

Thomas Hale

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I don't think that wally world regularly carries .410 single shots, but I know they can get them/order them, I think they only run around $250 or so, in a New England Arms make, which are great as far as I'm concerned.

Screw the 10 ring, keep them in the zero!!!

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It will probably run about 80 bucks new, a decent condition used one usually runs about the same so try for the new one.

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I have not saw any at wally world,but they will order anything we want here at the super center.
I did get two different ones from a pawn and gun shop for $100
both savage singles.check around and you may pick up a good reasonable.

stay away from the 835.......just my 2 cents,there are 98 more.

I am not a hunter I am a whitetail population reduction specialest

remember keep your back to the sun, your knife sharp, and your powder dry.

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Yes Wal-Mart does carry the NEF in .410. I see them everytime I go by the case. They run about $80.00. They also carry them in 20ga. I bought one of the 20s and love it. I'm thinking of getting a .410 barrel for it just for the fun of shooting a .410. I haven't shot one in many years. Your question has gotten me missing those 410s. If she's small you might think about getting one of the Rossi Matched Pairs. They're a little more expensive but they are a little smaller than the NEF youth models. The NEFs are a lot smoother and tighter though.

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I doubt seriously that wallyworld or anyone for that matter will sell any kind of firearm to an 11 year old. Further you must sign a statement that the gun is not for someone else.....again...illegal.

Sever year olds have no reason of any kind owning or posessing a firearm of any kind....nor do 11 year olds for that matter.

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I have purchased many weapons,and have never signed a statement that it was or wasn't for someone else.
I also know a lot of grown men 40 years old that I would rather an 11 year old have a gun than I would those grown men.
As long as those kids are trained and are in the presents of an adult.<img src=icon_smile_approve.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle>

I am not a hunter I am a whitetail population reduction specialest

remember keep your back to the sun, your knife sharp, and your powder dry.

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If I may make a suggestion... if your sister is seriously going to try to hit something with the shotgun... get her a 20ga instead of the .410... if you think she can't handle the recoil (it's hardly any more than a .410), then make sure you buy light 2 3/4&quot; loads. To put a .410 in the hands of a beginner and expect them to hit anything is placing a severe handicap on them... .the pattern is just too small to hit with, except for an expert shot... someone that can center that fast-moving bird in that thin pattern. Get her a 20, and don't act like the kick is any big deal... tell her, &quot;no, it doesn't kick hardly at all... you'll feel a little push, but it doesn't hurt at all&quot;... if she isn't told that it will hurt, then it won't. Once she gets accustomed to shooting the light loads, then you can go up to the heavier ones, if she feels the need.
I think your sister is a lucky girl, to have a big brother that wants to help her get started in a great sport. Just be sure and teach her safety, safety, safety, SAFETY!!! EVERYTHING else comes after that... safety is MOST important.

&quot;Progress, far from consisting in change, depends on retentiveness..those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.&quot; Santayana

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Vapodog,

Lighten up would ya<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>? I'm quite sure Walmart wont sell DIRECTLY to an eleven year old, but if he wants to buy his younger sister a .410 and his parents approve, then guess what, he can give the money to them and they will buy it for her. As far as the statement that the gun isn't for anyone else, so what?! What is this, Afghanistan? Do you think Walmart is going to press charges against someone who buys a single shot firearm for their child to learn with? ILLEGAL, that's the problem with people trying to regulate everyone elses business, do ya really think that if a felon wants a gun that they won't be able to just go get one wherever? Or for that matter do you think Walmart is sending a stern message to the criminal underworld by making them sign a statement?! What a joke!

As for you jeff,
Good on ya! If you need a lawn to mow, come see me<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>. And guess what? when you get enough money saved up if you have any problems sealing the deal, drop me a line and we'll work something out (shhh, we won't tell Vapodog, that mean ole sum&*^%$<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>)
JR

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Jolly, with all due respects, there never was a statement that said that the parents approve.

Further on the BATF form that one must sign, it states that the gun is for &quot;one-self&quot; and is not being bought for someone else.

There was never a statement that the use of such a firearm was to be supervised by an adult and there was never any statement about the care of the firearm to be in the hands of an adult.

I'd have been delighted to help &quot;Dad&quot; or &quot;Mom&quot; if one of them would have asked about a firearm for a youngster.....but an 11 year old youngster?

I'm heartened by his good wishes and generocity to his sibling but he really should be working thru his parents or guardian.

I fully concurr that it's highly unlikely that anyone would sell an 11 year old a firearm.....especially Wallyworld, but there's folks out there selling them cocaine right now!

I certainly don't know this young lad and I doubt that anyone on this forum does either. I'm confused as to why anyone would aid and abed in assisting this 11 year old boy buy a firearm for a 7 year old sister.

This is strictly a matter for his parents or guardian. With all due respects folks, I'm keeping my position on this issue.

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How about a Remington Express for yourself? They will last a lifetime. I have an 835 I use to turkey hunt, but if I could only
own one shotgun, it would be an 870.
Ask you parents to help with a gun for your sister. You may want to consider a 20 guage.

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I want to reply first to Vapodog. There is no way that an 11 year old will be able to buy a gun legally as we all know. The mere fact that he is asking for advice on the &quot;proper&quot; gun for her shows me that he at least has some intelligence and good intentions. I know that when I was that age and wanted something like that I would do all the research that I could and then take all the facts that i found to Mom and Dad. They were always VERY impressed and more than willing to listen. After all I had done most of the work for them. Sure they would want to verify it but it had been found for them. This made it MUCH easier on everybody. Though a lot of that information was for naught at the time, I have used it since and it has served me well. If a kid is on the hunt for information then I will assist them in any way I can. Information=growth. My point is just don't be so quick to judge so harshly.

I will have to disagree with Hornetguy. I believe the 410 is the perfect gun for beginners. I started on one some 20something years ago and the lessons learned with that 410 single shot have served me very well in the years since. I seldom had any problems taking appropriate game within the limits of that gun. Most of the game that I did miss was either because I was exceeding the range of the 410 or because of poor woodsmanship. I bought a 410 single shot for my 8 year old son this past Christmas and have taken him out once so far. The water was very high and we only saw one squirrel. After waiting for what seemed like an eternity for that squirrel to come out from behind the tree, when he finally did, my son popped him with one shot from about 20 yards+/-. The only time a 410 is a handicap is when somebody wants more than what it is capable of. The good thing about the 410 is it teaches a young hunter (or an older one who has forgotten) the necessity of proper shot selection and woodsmanship. IMO that makes it the perfect beginner gun.

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Uh, hello out there!!! I don't mean to sound disrespectful, but use your common sense. Would a store sell a firearm to a kid? Of course not. FYI I'm giving them the money to buy it. Plus I have a 20 ga. single shot and we are probably going to share it. I am going to do some jobs this money and hopefully I will be able to buy a Mossberg 835 12 ga. this year.

Thomas Hale

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I mean I am giving my parents the money. I hope no one is offended by it. I was just mad about some things today. It is my way of blowing off steam.


Thomas Hale

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Bloodnativ... when I recommended the 20ga, I was anticipating flying targets... not sitting ones. You're right, it's pretty easy centering a sitting target with a .410..it would be adequate for that. Hitting flushing quail with it is another story. It's smaller, thinner(fewer shot)pattern is too big a handicap for a beginner... too many misses equal frustration. In my opinion, a beginner needs as large and dense a pattern as they can comfortably shoot, when shooting birds on the wing..

&quot;Progress, far from consisting in change, depends on retentiveness..those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.&quot; Santayana

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Hornetguy, I misread that part of your post the first time through but caught it after I added my post. Unfortunately my computer locked up and I was not able to post again to clarify. For wing shooting I too would recommend a 20ga. Sometimes the 20 is kind of hard on squirrels. That's the cool thing about the NEF. You can have both. The optional accessory barrel in the other guage is only $38.00 +shipping. You get your 20ga for birds and a 410 for slower targets all for less than $125.00