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Advise on semi-auto shotguns
Considering a auto loader. Can't decide which.
Any thoughts on the field grade Charles Daily? |
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Haven't seen or heard much about the Charles Daly stuff. Maybe goor or maybe bad. I don't thinki'd cheap out though and go there. You get what you pay for and semi-auto shotguns aren't an exception. Asa minimum, I'd start with an 1100. Personally, I prefer Benelli.
Maybe try some searches on the various forums. |
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well if your on a budget go with a winchester model 1400 but i think they are only 2 3/4 chamberd, they are good guns though from what i have heard from people and my uncle he has one too. also mossberg makes a good semiauto. Remington does too but i have read the older ones jam up sometimes. but all good guns.
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also i havnt heard anything about charles daily either could be good or bad.
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I have an older 1100 and one of the first 1187 special purpose deer guns.
Both shoot very nice and have no problems jamming. As with anything keep it clean and lubricated. I will leave it at that [8D] |
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I recently made a trade for a Charles Daly 3 1/2" chambered semi. Other than only having one bead for site allignment, it has been a great gun.
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ORIGINAL: millerhunter13 well if your on a budget go with a winchester model 1400 but i think they are only 2 3/4 chamberd, they are good guns though from what i have heard from people and my uncle he has one too. also mossberg makes a good semiauto. Remington does too but i have read the older ones jam up sometimes. but all good guns. You seem to read a lot of stuff. If you read on, you may find for sure that the older Remingtons acctually tend to jam less than the newer ones do. And I didn't read that... I have experienced it.. and continue to experience it. Keep in mind too that Winchester doesn't make the 1400 anymore. Mossberg makes a decent semi-auto.. I wouldn't call it "good". |
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i do notthink you could go wrong with a win. rem or mossberg there is also benneli
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If you are on a budget I would skip over the Charles Daly. In my honest opinion it feels pretty flimsy, I have a buddy that owns one that likes it; then again he doesn't hunt but once a year. To stay on budget the Stoeger M2000 might be what you are looking for. It is based on the inertia system that Benneli uses.
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I am not sure about the Charles Daily, but my brother in law has a 1100, andmynephewhas an olderRemington Mohawk semi-auto, and both jam frequently.
I don't know anything about the newer Remingtons, so I will leave it at that. |
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I can see chinsing out and getting a cheap gun for a pump or single shot, but not an auto. I have never owned a CD, but from what I have seen and heard I would suggest you look at used remington, berreta's and the likes. I got an A-5 for under 500 bucks a few years ago.
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ORIGINAL: SwampCollie ORIGINAL: millerhunter13 well if your on a budget go with a winchester model 1400 but i think they are only 2 3/4 chamberd, they are good guns though from what i have heard from people and my uncle he has one too. also mossberg makes a good semiauto. Remington does too but i have read the older ones jam up sometimes. but all good guns. You seem to read a lot of stuff. If you read on, you may find for sure that the older Remingtons acctually tend to jam less than the newer ones do. And I didn't read that... I have experienced it.. and continue to experience it. Keep in mind too that Winchester doesn't make the 1400 anymore. Mossberg makes a decent semi-auto.. I wouldn't call it "good". Is there a problem with reading[8D] you can find the 1400 used, ie gunbroker.com;) |
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ORIGINAL: Michbowhunter I am not sure about the Charles Daily, but my brother in law has a 1100, andmynephewhas an olderRemington Mohawk semi-auto, and both jam frequently. I don't know anything about the newer Remingtons, so I will leave it at that. thank you |
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ORIGINAL: millerhunter13] Is there a problem with reading[8D] Well... if someone wants applicable opinions and advice based on honest true life experiences.... then yes there is a problem with reading. Here is an example: "Are you a doctor." "No, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night." See what I mean.... |
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i gotcha, but michbowhunter has life experiences, so my reading isnt really false or anything.
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If you want a good auto here is my experience from owning all the "higher-end" autos.
Benelli M1 Super 90 Benelli M2 Remington 11-87 Browning Gold Stalker I guide pheasant hunters, and I see all sorts of problems with 3.5" semi-autos, so I'd personally avoid them like the plague. The SBEs, Gold 3.5", Super X-2s, Super X-3s, etc. I have also seen quite a few jams with the 1100s that my clients run, I have never owned one, but am considering buying an Upland 12 gauge version that is 2 3/4" to play with. Franchi makes a very good mid-range semi auto. My buddy owns one, as well as alot of my clients, and they run great (these are 20 gauge guns). I have 4 or 5 buddies with Stoegers, and as long as you run them dry (no lube) like a Benelli, they will take ALOT of abuse. I'd avoid a Winchester 1400 at all costs. |
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why do you suggest to stay away from win 1400 at any cost? not trying to provoke or anything i just wanted to know.
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ORIGINAL: millerhunter13 i gotcha, but michbowhunter has life experiences, so my reading isnt really false or anything. And Rammer's advice on 1400's is probably right on. Most of the 1400s were made from cast and stamped cheap steel parts, as most of the 70s and 80s Winchester shotguns were. Some of them were pretty decent, and some were real dogs. Rammer I'd suspect that your clients who are toting 1100s and having problems suffer from one of two afflictions: 1) Haneously dirty guns or 2) dry rotted or improperly installed O-Rings. Maybe even both. The advice on the Stoeger is right on. Doubly so in the very cold weather y'all experience in SD. Often as well, gas guns will gum up faster, and if they have any oil in the action at all, will really bog down. Hence the issues with your clients 1100s for sure. |
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ok well see you didnt say that, i got what you are saying now.
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get a beretta xtrema 2. that gun is badass. semi auto camo stock. weighs about 7 lbs. with one fallback, all for around $1200. check out the video for this gun at www.berretta.com
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I am thinking of purchasing a Benelli SBEII, so I was wondering if you could elaborate some on the problems you've noticed with those guns?
ORIGINAL: Rammer If you want a good auto here is my experience from owning all the "higher-end" autos. Benelli M1 Super 90 Benelli M2 Remington 11-87 Browning Gold Stalker I guide pheasant hunters, and I see all sorts of problems with 3.5" semi-autos, so I'd personally avoid them like the plague. The SBEs, Gold 3.5", Super X-2s, Super X-3s, etc. I have also seen quite a few jams with the 1100s that my clients run, I have never owned one, but am considering buying an Upland 12 gauge version that is 2 3/4" to play with. Franchi makes a very good mid-range semi auto. My buddy owns one, as well as alot of my clients, and they run great (these are 20 gauge guns). I have 4 or 5 buddies with Stoegers, and as long as you run them dry (no lube) like a Benelli, they will take ALOT of abuse. I'd avoid a Winchester 1400 at all costs. |
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The main problem I see with 3.5" shotguns is the guys don't know how to clean them properly. In order for a shotgun to work where I live, you have to run them BONE dry. I honestly see no need for a 3.5" shotshell unless you are hunting turkeys, a steel load will have a lil longer shot string, all the 3.5" shells are is a marketing ploy to sell more shotguns/shells.
As for the Win 1400 - Why on earth would you reccomend someone buying a shotgun that is no longer in production? And from the way you speak, you have "read" good things on them, but you have no personal experience? Why reccomend something you don't have any experience with? |
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ORIGINAL: Rammer As for the Win 1400 - Why on earth would you reccomend someone buying a shotgun that is no longer in production? And from the way you speak, you have "read" good things on them, but you have no personal experience? Why reccomend something you don't have any experience with? |
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ORIGINAL: SwampCollie ORIGINAL: Rammer As for the Win 1400 - Why on earth would you reccomend someone buying a shotgun that is no longer in production? And from the way you speak, you have "read" good things on them, but you have no personal experience? Why reccomend something you don't have any experience with? |
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