.308 VS 7MM rem. mag
 

How do they compare as far as range, acuracy, and knockdown?

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are you talking 7mm rem mag, 7mm wsm, 7x57 mauser, 7x64 brenneke, .280 rem........? lot's of differences in ballistics in that lot

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many 7mm's out there. which one do you mean?

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My bad... 7mm rem. mag.

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The 7mm mag carries more power, more range, more KICK, and more PRICE on ammo. But there is something about the .308 that is amazingly accurate and a deer killing machine.

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There is NO comparison in ballistics between the two. The 308 will kill a deer just as dead, but there isno question the 7mm Rem is a superior cartridge. I used to be stuck on the 30-06, itis agood deer caliber and has a wide range of bullet weights to choose from. The 7mm Rem Magis a better caliber that offers a lot of bullet weights and types. My 7mm Rem Mag has less recoil than my 30-06, but it has a bull barrel so it is also heavier. The 7mm Rem mag cartridge like the 308 and 30-06is widely available. The cost of 7MM Ultra Mag ammo, which is a really hot round is costly. The 7mm STW is getting harder to find on the shelf at many sporting goods stores.I really like my 7mm Remmag.

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Unless you're taking shots beyond 300 yards, I'd stick with the .308.

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BINGO !

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I say 308 win vs 7mm rem mag is apples vs oranges. Both will kill deer dead. I've heard rumor of 7mm blowing through deer at close ranges. I don't know for a fact that this has happened but I do agree with ipscshooter.

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I would go with the 7mm Rem. Mag. Good luxk.

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I have both. A savage 110 .308 and a ruger #1 in 7mm rem mag. I like the way 308 better for whitetail size game. Maybe consider the 7mm-08 or the 280 rem.

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Forgive me for my blonde moment but the 7mm rem mag and 7mm ultra mag are 2 completeley different guns right?

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Yes.

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First off, let me assure you that there is no such thing as "knockdown".

The 7mm Rem. mag and the .308 compare just about the same way as the 7mm Rem. Mag. compares to the .30/'06. The .308 has a reputation for being a very accurate cartridge. The7 Mag. is also pretty good in this department. But I'm a bit prejudiced hee, because my 7Mag. shoots 1" groups at 200 yards; this is perhaps a little better than most of them!

With 175-grain bullets at 3050 FPS from my 26" barrel, I would like to believe the 7mm Mag. is slightly better at long range, because you have to use a 200-grain PSPBT bullet in a .308 to equal the ballistic properties of a 175-grain .284" bullet like the Sierra or Nosler Partition, and you can get only 2400 FPS from a 200 in the .308". What does this mean? The 7mm Mag. will deliver the same performance as the .308", but at 150 yards furtherdownrange.....

I stopped using my 7 Mag for deer. It is unnecessarily powerful. I use it for elk and moose. For deer, I use a 7X57mm with 150 grain bullets at 2700 FPS. Don't have a .308 any more, but the 7X57mm with 140-160 grain bullets is very similar to the .308!

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I shot a deer last weekend with my 7mm mag at about 45 yards and it blew the whole front leg out on the exit. Only thing that held the leg on was the hide. I like the gun but I'm beginning to think it's too much for deer hunting around here.

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You think:D

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dont the army sniper rifles use the 308? if its good enough for them im sold.

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Another vote for the Classic 308.

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For me, and most of the people living around where I do, a 7mm Magnum is just too much gun for close quarters deer hunting. The 308, 30-06, 270 and calibers similar to those are more appropriate. Most shots around here are under 100 yards, and a 7mm Magnum is just too much kick, velocity and meat dameging power for deer sized game. Now there are guys who will argue and some of thier arguments are warrented, but even my 270 will waste some meat at close quarters if the shot isnt right on target. But at least with it, the recoil is managable enough to place the shot where it is needed more times than not. The 308 is in that same class of low recoil guns. Low recoil, accurate, enough gun to take down most game that you point it at without developing manumitis. What more can you ask for in an all around gun?

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Recoil is very subjective and alot has to do with the rifle specifics:style, weight and fit.Ie: my 7mm rem mag boots less then my 270 win. Their is no doubt the rem mag has more free recoil however largerly based on fit to my shoulder it feels less. I personally have never felt it much worse then a 3006 which many seem to shoot and handle well.

My experience with both cartridges on game is fairly equal and I haven't saw any increase in meat damage with a 7mm rem mag over a 270 win. If you hit bone or meat you will be trimming some with any cartridge.

7mm has the ballistical edge by a good margin and therefor the better long range choice. IMHO it is a better choice for larger then deer game, as well (due to the ballistical advantges and ability to shoot large for caliber bullets).

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Im from PA and long shots here are not the normal shot so I go for 20-22" barreled short actions in 7-08/.308 and they work great for me. Easy to carry, balance well, very accurate, fast handleing and plenty of power out to 300 yards. I used to use bigger and more powerfull rifles but never needed them. I say go with the short actions and take a good rested shot at the longer ranges and you will not need the 7 mag. for deer. I feel kind of sick during the centerfire season when I see and hear 5-7 rapid shots fired off at deer on opening morning; it's just not right. I believe a more modest caliber would be a much better choice for most people.

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I own both rounds. The fact is that under 300 yds which is where probably 95% of deer get shot there is no need for a 7mm rem mag, the .308 will do just fine. Hell, many many moose get killed up here every year with the .308. And a moose weighs about 5 times what a deer does so the .308 is not lacking in power. Inside 300 yds trajectory also means nothing as virtually all sensible deer rounds basically shoot almost the same inside 300 yds.

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I don't believe that one is better than the other. They are both effective on deer so I believe that it all comes down to personal preference. It is more about shot placement that the cal. you use. With whatever cal. and gun you buy just make sure it shoulders well for you then lots of practise. I prefer bolt action but then again that's what I'm used to. If you know your abilities as well as your rifle's abilities then for the most part you will only be pulling the trigger once.

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Yes we do. Sometimes we can get our hands on 168-175 grain ammo that is a lot more accurate than the standard 118LR that is usually available to us. Some of our top shooters can drill tack holes at about 400m with either their M-24 or 40XB

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I personally use a 7mm-08,but it seems to me that the over destruction of meet could call for a different bullet and not a different caliber.

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I see by the posts that I am not alone! There seem to be many people that are torn between their .308 and 7MM RM!
If I had to give one of them up, I'd probably keep the .308 but hopefully, I'll never part with either one!
I did have a couple of bad experiences with the 7MM RM that have puzzled me and soured me on the 7MM RM. Two bucks that luckily I found, had exit holes that showed no expansion at all! Both were shot with 150 gr. Core-Locts at 50-70 yards. One buck ran about 15 yards with no blood at all, the second ran about 100 yards, there were a couple of drops of blood where he was standing, just enough to tell me I did not miss! I was just about to give up the search for the night, when I stumbled onto him. I am considered a good tracker, but you've got to have something to work with! I have heard of others with similar experiences.
I will try the 7MM again, but with lighter bullets. My theory is that most of the heavier 7MM bullets are designed for bigger game and possibly longer ranges, so unless you hit major bones, the Whitetail body is not enough resistance to cause the bullet to expand.

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Get a 300 Win. Mag. and be done with it. I have killed Whitetails with all of them and It is the most devastating of all the guns I have hunted with!!!

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i've shot many different rounds thru many different guns, i have a preference for the 7mag since i have for many many years only been able to afford a single rifle in the cabinet, it is just a great all-around caliber than can take whitey's no problem as well as many larger... 308 is also a great all-around chamber as well, but its a round i wouldn't want to have as an "only" gun... if i had the money to have multiple guns in the stable i'd have a .223, .260, 7mag, 308, 338, and maybe a couple wildcat rounds as well... but that's all wishful thinking since i haven't won the powerball yet... speaking of which....... if i ever DO win that i want one of those big nasty cheytac's as well...:D

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Sierra 160 grain SPBT in 7mm Rem Mag for all hunting purposes.

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i have had 2 .308's and have a 7mm rem. mag. i still have the rem. mag., but dont own the .308's any more. i like the way my 7mag shoots and performs on the bench at 500 yards. i am shooting 150 gr. seirra game king spbt. hope this helps.......

7mm mag best all purpose
 

I own most every caliber but for hunting my SHR970 7mm mag will fit all applications as long as you are taking head shots. Hunt for meat not trophy.

You dug up a 10 year old post to say that load of nonsense? As long as you take head shots? With a 7 mag? My 7 mag will bring down anything in this country with ease out to 500 yards up to and including Brown Bear. No head shot needed.

have you ever killed enough deer to notice the difference between a headshot and a lung/shoulder shot deer? a headshot means a helluva bloody
mess on the cutting board.
RR