7.62x39mm for deer
#11
RE: 7.62x39mm for deer
Just a note....Ruger makes a rifle called the Mini Thirty that shoots the 7.62x39, if your interested in a semi-auto other than the SKS. I used to own one, and it was as accurate as it was fun to shoot.
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#12
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: WESTERN PA
Posts: 42
RE: 7.62x39mm for deer
Why would anyone want to carry a war machine into the woods for game? It just doesnt fit. Sure it will kill a deer, but c-mon; anyone who would use or advocate the use of something like sks or the AK47 or any semi-automatic war weapon for hunting just doesnt get it... These weapons were designed to replace accuracy with firepower. If thats what you need , then go ahead , sure hope I dont ever see somebody hunting on my property with a machine gun<img src=icon_smile_dissapprove.gif border=0 align=middle>
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#13
Junior Member
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: VT USA
Posts: 15
RE: 7.62x39mm for deer
I'm not necessarily married to the idea of purchasing an auto loading rifle. I'm interested in the SKS primarily due to its low cost and the fact that I find them to be comfortable to shoot. I will be graduating from college soon, so my funds are quite limited. Once the bayonett is removed and the magazine is changed so that its capacity is 5 rather than 10, I don't see how the SKS is different from any other auto loading rifle. Granted, the SKS was originally intended for use in war, but so were many of the Mauser and British Enfield rifles that are common in the deer woods. As far as accuracy is concerned, the SKS that I used was accurate up to 100 yards. I hunt in a thickly wooded part of Vermont where I can't usually see past 50 yards, let alone shoot a deer. I'm not trying to start an argument or anything, just explain my reasoning.
#15
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Fayetteville NC USA
Posts: 79
RE: 7.62x39mm for deer
I've had pretty good results with Wolf Ammo in 7.62X39 154 grain soft point. I've had one shot kills at 100 yards on deer using this ammo. I also cannot understand how some people can call a semi auto a military weapon. A semi SKS or AK 47 or Mini 30 is far far far away from being a military weapon. If our soldiers had to use weapons like these, we had better stay home and surrender. Been there, done that!!
#16
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Allen Texas USA
Posts: 210
RE: 7.62x39mm for deer
"Sure it will kill a deer, but c-mon; anyone who would use or advocate the use of something like sks or the AK47 or any semi-automatic war weapon for hunting just doesnt get it... "
Doesn't get WHAT? What in the world is wrong with using a semi-auto rifle for hunting? Are you falling into the same old trap of "the evil-LOOKING gun" ? If it is black, and semi-auto, then there is no need for it in civilian hands? How silly. Like Jay said... what do you think the Mauser, Springfield, Enfield, trap-door Springfield, etc, are? They are military weapons. Are you saying that a "hunting rifle" has to meet YOUR appearance criteria? Or are you worried about accuracy? There's an interesting article in the last Shotgun News about the CETME battle rifle... based on the HK .308...arguably one of the most prolific and successful battle rifles of the free world. The author was getting approx 1" groups at 100yds with it. That's certainly good enough for deer, isn't it? Oh, yeah, I forgot to mention... that was shot with the military open battle sights. How many of your RemWinRug rifles that really LOOK like hunting rifles (your definition) will do that? Let's not fall into the trap of "good" hunting rifles and "bad" hunting rifles. In fact, if you are hunting with your sks, or ak variant, then that takes a lot of wind out of the sails of the idiots that want to ban "assault rifles" because they have no "sporting value".....
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Doesn't get WHAT? What in the world is wrong with using a semi-auto rifle for hunting? Are you falling into the same old trap of "the evil-LOOKING gun" ? If it is black, and semi-auto, then there is no need for it in civilian hands? How silly. Like Jay said... what do you think the Mauser, Springfield, Enfield, trap-door Springfield, etc, are? They are military weapons. Are you saying that a "hunting rifle" has to meet YOUR appearance criteria? Or are you worried about accuracy? There's an interesting article in the last Shotgun News about the CETME battle rifle... based on the HK .308...arguably one of the most prolific and successful battle rifles of the free world. The author was getting approx 1" groups at 100yds with it. That's certainly good enough for deer, isn't it? Oh, yeah, I forgot to mention... that was shot with the military open battle sights. How many of your RemWinRug rifles that really LOOK like hunting rifles (your definition) will do that? Let's not fall into the trap of "good" hunting rifles and "bad" hunting rifles. In fact, if you are hunting with your sks, or ak variant, then that takes a lot of wind out of the sails of the idiots that want to ban "assault rifles" because they have no "sporting value".....
"Progress, far from consisting in change, depends on retentiveness..those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." Santayana
#17
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: WESTERN PA
Posts: 42
RE: 7.62x39mm for deer
OK Hornetguy, in answer to your question,What in the world is wrong with using a semi-auto rifle for hunting? In this state it`s illegal . Second; I do have a problem with the thought that some people think it`s ok to grab a tired old sks and a fist full of wolfe ammo and heading into the deer woods. Third- The people you read about shooting one inch groups with fine auto-loaders probably would not choose to carry one out for big game. And just to let you know sporting rifle does not mean hunting rifle... I have several autos in my collection and even if it were legal for me to carry one for big game I`m sure I could find something better than an sks for the same money.. And as far as "just dont get it" Where I come from hunting is a tradition and if someone came along who thought an sks was acceptable as a deer rifle ,, We would try to teach him the differance
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#18
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Gleason, TN
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RE: 7.62x39mm for deer
I thought that the HUNT was what it was all about, not the rifle. The rifle just makes the hunt possible, it's a tool. Just because it isn't a "hunting" rifle in your opinion doesn't mean that someone else is wrong for using a rifle that fits them well, even if what they choose to use is a machine gun. My best friend bear hunts with a sks. He doesn't plan on rapid firing a wall of lead into an animal, he just chose to use that rifle because he liked it. You are right that hunting is a tradition. But does that mean we all have to use the same equipment?
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#19
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Ontario Canada
Posts: 2,059
RE: 7.62x39mm for deer
N3YWV; most SKS's are brand new and packed with grease. They are not used army weapons and you can't get much else brand new for $100. They are limited to 5 shots as is any other semi auto.
Dan O.
Edited by - dan o. on 01/23/2003 13:52:32
Dan O.
Edited by - dan o. on 01/23/2003 13:52:32
#20
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Big Sandy TX USA
Posts: 280
RE: 7.62x39mm for deer
An sks is about like having an auto 30-30. I haven't killed a deer with it but I have hunted with it before. I just have never had a opportunity to shoot at one with it. It is not my primary weapon of choice but I would use it. My rifle will shoot tight groups out ot at least 100 yards. They are fun to shoot also, and the ammo is cheap enough you can practice alot.
n3ywv: not everyone lives in your state were semi-auto rifles are illegal. Does that go for '06's and such too? They are not fully-auto machine guns.
Dan O: I think most sks rifles hold ten rounds not just five, but it only takes one.
n3ywv: not everyone lives in your state were semi-auto rifles are illegal. Does that go for '06's and such too? They are not fully-auto machine guns.
Dan O: I think most sks rifles hold ten rounds not just five, but it only takes one.