Out west rifle need help
10-11-2007, 01:22 AM
#21
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2006
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RE: Out west rifle need help
I once shot an elk looking straight at me at 75 yards with a 340 Weatherby Magnum. 250 grain bullet. The bull dropped in his tracks. I would not have taken that shot with a 270. I am sure a 270 is adequate medicine for an elk-but why would you limit yourself?? I guess if you can not handle a larger caliber then you should not shoot a larger caliber. But again why would you limit yourself. Get the larger caliber and shoot the largest bullet you feel comfortable with. 338's and 375's rule. Tom.
10-11-2007, 05:14 AM
#22
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Jan 2004
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RE: Out west rifle need help
Shatodavis - Its too bad you took my comment the wrong way about recoil. But SOME shooters are recoil shy and develop a bad flinch from just a couple of bench sessions with a big cartridge/rifle combo. Although you are right that you don't feel the recoil when shooting a game. If the shooter does devleop a flinch he may not hit what he is aiming at or worse yet, cripple the animal. I'd much rather see someone use a .270 with a quality bullet and hit the vitals than a .338 and hit the guts. We are all entitled to our own opinions and we have both stated ours.
10-11-2007, 07:29 AM
#23
Fork Horn
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RE: Out west rifle need help
ORIGINAL: bronko22000
Shatodavis - Its too bad you took my comment the wrong way about recoil. But SOME shooters are recoil shy and develop a bad flinch from just a couple of bench sessions with a big cartridge/rifle combo. Although you are right that you don't feel the recoil when shooting a game. If the shooter does devleop a flinch he may not hit what he is aiming at or worse yet, cripple the animal. I'd much rather see someone use a .270 with a quality bullet and hit the vitals than a .338 and hit the guts. We are all entitled to our own opinions and we have both stated ours.
Shatodavis - Its too bad you took my comment the wrong way about recoil. But SOME shooters are recoil shy and develop a bad flinch from just a couple of bench sessions with a big cartridge/rifle combo. Although you are right that you don't feel the recoil when shooting a game. If the shooter does devleop a flinch he may not hit what he is aiming at or worse yet, cripple the animal. I'd much rather see someone use a .270 with a quality bullet and hit the vitals than a .338 and hit the guts. We are all entitled to our own opinions and we have both stated ours.
10-11-2007, 11:55 AM
#24
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Missouri
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RE: Out west rifle need help
ORIGINAL: bronko22000
Shatodavis .... I'd much rather see someone use a .270 with a quality bullet and hit the vitals than a .338 and hit the guts...
Shatodavis .... I'd much rather see someone use a .270 with a quality bullet and hit the vitals than a .338 and hit the guts...
Accuracy can be obtained with the big thumpers too.
OBTW I wasn't necessarily directing my comments to you. Just talking in generallities.
10-11-2007, 12:06 PM
#25
Giant Nontypical
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RE: Out west rifle need help
ORIGINAL: barrabas74
I am going out west(not this year) to go after Elk and Mule Deer. I am looking at getting one of three rifles in one of two calibres.
rifles: Tikka T3(in either laminate stainless or wood blued)
Browning A-Bolt in Stainless synthetic(new camo stock)
Remington Mountain Rifle Stainless synthetic
Calibres: 300 WM, 325
I was wondering what you all thought of these rifles in those two cartridges or if you had any suggestions of your own. My current whitetail rifle is a Winchester 70 featherweight in .270. I know i could load it hotter for elk and it'll drop mulies fine. However I wanted something that shot hotter and was thinking 300 in a 165 grain bullet? If this should have been two seperate posts forgive me, new to the forums.
I am going out west(not this year) to go after Elk and Mule Deer. I am looking at getting one of three rifles in one of two calibres.
rifles: Tikka T3(in either laminate stainless or wood blued)
Browning A-Bolt in Stainless synthetic(new camo stock)
Remington Mountain Rifle Stainless synthetic
Calibres: 300 WM, 325
I was wondering what you all thought of these rifles in those two cartridges or if you had any suggestions of your own. My current whitetail rifle is a Winchester 70 featherweight in .270. I know i could load it hotter for elk and it'll drop mulies fine. However I wanted something that shot hotter and was thinking 300 in a 165 grain bullet? If this should have been two seperate posts forgive me, new to the forums.
However, the .270 is certainly adequate for elk. My bullet choice in the .270 for game bigger than deer is the 150-grain Nosler Partition with 53.5 grains of IMR 4350.
If you need a larger rifle, IMO, .30 cal is not enough bigger than .270 to make a significant difference. However, the .325 is, and even better is the .338 Win. or the .340 Weatherby. But make sure you can handle the recoil of such critters before you use one on a nice trophy!
10-11-2007, 03:42 PM
#26
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: central Ky
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RE: Out west rifle need help
Eldegullo,I too bypass the 30 caliber. If it's too big for 7mm,I go straight to .32,33,or 35 caliber. To tell the truth,I seldom hunt with ANY rifle anymore as I'm usually bowhunting.
10-19-2007, 05:01 AM
#27
Fork Horn
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RE: Out west rifle need help
Why bypass the .30 caliber america's sweetheart caliber. there must be something to the .30 calibers sell better than any biggame caliber. I agree with most you don't need more than .30 and sure you can get by with a smaller caliber.
10-19-2007, 06:23 AM
#28
Typical Buck
Join Date: Mar 2007
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RE: Out west rifle need help
Any those rifles will do you fine. IMO a Remmy 700 Syn/blued in 30.06 or .308 will do the job fine for you.This save you several hundy dollars that you could purchase another piece of equipment like a good pack!
10-19-2007, 08:42 AM
#30
Giant Nontypical
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RE: Out west rifle need help
ORIGINAL: savagescout
Why bypass the .30 caliber america's sweetheart caliber. there must be something to the .30 calibers sell better than any biggame caliber. I agree with most you don't need more than .30 and sure you can get by with a smaller caliber.
Why bypass the .30 caliber america's sweetheart caliber. there must be something to the .30 calibers sell better than any biggame caliber. I agree with most you don't need more than .30 and sure you can get by with a smaller caliber.
The reason for jumping over the .30 is that it is not sufficiently better than a .270 to buy a .30 if you already have a .270.