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konnari 09-18-2007 11:49 AM

.270 win or .270WSM ?
 
Hi guys !
Mi current rifle battery consists of 22 LR .223 rem. 25-06 rem. 30-06 .338 win magand 9.3x62. The thing is that all of them are let’s say “Classic rifles” that is wooden stock, open sights and blued barrel. Now I won’t to buy my first synthetic stock “light weight” stainless steel rifle and I have decided to purchase a Tikka T3 light stainless steel.
Now the question is ….what caliber ? I have narrowed it down to .270 win or 270 WSM. So what should I pick ? Is the 270 WSM going to kick to much in a light Tikka T3 ? It weighs less than 6.5 lbs. I’ve heard that the Tikka in .270 WSM is really accurate …….!
Thanks,

ipscshooter 09-18-2007 12:45 PM

RE: .270 win or .270WSM ?
 
You've already got a .25-06 and a .30-06. So, I'd say the .270 Win. would be a bit redundant, unless you're just wanting to fill out the family of '06 based cartridges.

I'm not a big fan of magnums because I'm a little bit recoil sensitive, and you're right, in a 6.5 pound rifle, I'd imagine it'll kick a bit. If it was me, I'd get that Tikka in 7mm-08.

retrieverman 09-18-2007 12:58 PM

RE: .270 win or .270WSM ?
 
I agree with ipsc that a 7mm08 would be an excellent choice in a such light weight gun, but I have a Sauer 202LW in 270 on the way that will weigh about the same as the Tikka. So I really can't cast any stones.

To answer you original question, I am a huge fan of the WSM's, but I am a bigger fan of the plain old 270. I already have a couple of 270's and am adding another as I have already mentioned.

cjwink 09-18-2007 02:50 PM

RE: .270 win or .270WSM ?
 
I had the 270 WSM in the Tikka T3 light. It did not kick as bad as I thought it would. Plus you get much better ballistics out of the WSM with a shorter action..

geterdun2 09-18-2007 03:03 PM

RE: .270 win or .270WSM ?
 
i would say regular 270. mag ammo are much, much more expensive from what i have saw and it is less available. i would hate to be at hunting camp in no mans land and be able to find wsm at the only store in town, but i gauruntee they got regular 270s. i got a savage model 110, its a nice gun

rem 700 09-18-2007 03:16 PM

RE: .270 win or .270WSM ?
 
WSM would be my vote.

mello_collins 09-18-2007 04:02 PM

RE: .270 win or .270WSM ?
 
270WSM. especialy if you reload.

PaJack 09-18-2007 05:14 PM

RE: .270 win or .270WSM ?
 
I have a Sako 75 in the .270 WSM,this thing is a tack-driver with handloads and the recoil is nothing...;)

James B 09-18-2007 05:24 PM

RE: .270 win or .270WSM ?
 
Having had both, the only difference I could see was the added recoil of the WSM. The little gain in ballistics isn't worth the extra recoil. There will be noticeably more recoil in a light rifle on 270 WSM. I got rid of the WSM.

trailer 09-18-2007 06:35 PM

RE: .270 win or .270WSM ?
 


ORIGINAL: PaJack

I have a Sako 75 in the .270 WSM,this thing is a tack-driver with handloads and the recoil is nothing...;)
Yes but the Sako is nearly 2 lbs heavier... I have a Sako in the 270 WSM and find the recoil very manageable but a Tikka light, that might be another story...

700xcr 09-18-2007 08:15 PM

RE: .270 win or .270WSM ?
 
I purchaseda Remington 700xcr in 270wsm and mounted a Burris Eur-Diamond 2.5x10x44mm with the Ballistic Plex retical. Shooting Winchester 150gr. Power-Point ammo chronographed at 3200fps and shooting 1/2" groups at 100yds. And I have not had the chance to reload for it yet. I have the componets to do so. Maybe this winter I will start load development. This is my First stainless with synthitic stock rifle that I have ever owned and I love it. This is going to be my harsh weather rifle. Know back to original question if you have not owned or shot a 270win. like I did and then shoot the 270wsm you will not have any regrets. Out of all the wsm cartiridges the 270wsm and 300wsm will last,this is my opinion. Hope this helps.

ConstructionWorker 09-18-2007 08:57 PM

RE: .270 win or .270WSM ?
 
270 all the way. It's all on paper. I very seldom shoot past 150 yards at deer. I simply don't think I am that good. Shooting from a rested sandbag is one thing and shooting from a tree limb is another. Try shooting the two different rounds. The270 WSM is here to stay as well as the 300WSM.The 270WSMseems close to theregular 7mm mag though.

idunno 09-18-2007 11:44 PM

RE: .270 win or .270WSM ?
 
I have never shot the 270 WSM but I can't imagine the recoil to be that much more than the 270 Win. I have on the other hand shot a Winchester model 70 Wal-Mart special in 300 WSM. To me the recoil in that gun was considerably less than a 300 Win Mag. That being said I would still go with the 270 win. My main reason being ammo selection. If you compare the two although the WSM will outrun the Win you have a much broader selection. In addition to that 270 win can be found at just about any mom and pop store that carries ammo.
I'm really not one to talk though considering that I have a Tikka T3 in 338 Federal. Out of 3 gun stores and all of the Wal-Marts around only one of them carries the ammo. My solution is just to keep a good supply handy and don't forget them when I go hunting away from home.

DANTHEHUNTER 09-19-2007 10:52 AM

RE: .270 win or .270WSM ?
 
I have a .270wsm in a browning A-bolt.I dont think it has any more recoil then the .270win.I really like mine and am having fun with it.Try it out I think you will like it.

VAhuntr 09-19-2007 12:52 PM

RE: .270 win or .270WSM ?
 
I had a 270 WSM and wound up selling it to someone who wanted it much more than I did. Would I own a 270 WSM again? The answer is no, I would not. Nothing wrong with it, I just don't think it offers that much over the 270 Winchester to justify the added cost in ammunition.

glockman55 09-19-2007 01:40 PM

RE: .270 win or .270WSM ?
 
I like the 270 cal. good all around cal. Are the WSM's gonna be around for ever or is it just a fad?

Dixie Rebel 09-19-2007 02:01 PM

RE: .270 win or .270WSM ?
 

ORIGINAL: VAhuntr

I had a 270 WSM and wound up selling it to someone who wanted it much more than I did. Would I own a 270 WSM again? The answer is no, I would not. Nothing wrong with it, I just don't think it offers that much over the 270 Winchester to justify the added cost in ammunition.
Get the 270 Win-not the WSM.

The 270 Win. is a classic deer cartridge. Any small town hardware store or gas station carries ammo for it. Why? Because the 270 Win. is a great deer cartridge.

As for the WSM, I don't believe they will thrive much longer. The added velocity (and barrel wear) doesn't really improve the intended purpose of the rifle. Plus, the cost of components and ammo is a lot more.

Get the 270 Winchester; you'll never regretit.I guarantee it!!!!!!!!

Doe Dumper 09-19-2007 04:20 PM

RE: .270 win or .270WSM ?
 
The 270 wsm looks good on paper and Im fairly clueless about them as I havent shot one. I can say though I dont think they are going anywhere because they are selling very well. For me though the old classic 270 has been absolutely flawless. Long range, short range...whatever...

PaJack 09-19-2007 06:04 PM

RE: .270 win or .270WSM ?
 

ORIGINAL: trailer


ORIGINAL: PaJack

I have a Sako 75 in the .270 WSM,this thing is a tack-driver with handloads and the recoil is nothing...;)
Yes but the Sako is nearly 2 lbs heavier... I have a Sako in the 270 WSM and find the recoil very manageable but a Tikka light, that might be another story...
That's a good point about the weigh! If I didn't get this gun from a friend that needed cash fast I never would of bought it...

reddog132 09-20-2007 03:33 AM

RE: .270 win or .270WSM ?
 
My buddy has the Tika T3 in 270WSM. I shoot a Remy 700 XCR in 270. I can tell there is a BIG difference in recoil when I shoot his gun. I would get the 270 myself just for this reason. Good luck.

Folically Challenged 09-20-2007 05:34 AM

RE: .270 win or .270WSM ?
 
I don't think it's worth expending the mental energy on these choices. Pick one and go. Or, just stick with your '06, and spend the $$ on ammo & gas getting to the shooting range.

I just got back from 10 days in hunting camp in BC, & theguides/outfitters therewould just shrugg their shoulders when it came to cartridge discussions - they ALL work if you put 'em in the right place! They've had clients from Russia, Europe, Asia, South America... you name it, and they've seen just aboutevery cartridgecome through their territory. FWIW, the Owner/Outfitter has carried a .30-'06 since he started guiding in 1984.

FC

statjunk 09-20-2007 06:58 AM

RE: .270 win or .270WSM ?
 
I don't think the WSM cartridges offer enough to be worth the expense. Go with an original.

Tom

leeklm 09-20-2007 09:10 PM

RE: .270 win or .270WSM ?
 
I have the t3 lite in a 300WSM, which had a good kick. I added a limbsaver pad, which helped considerably, as the factory "pad" was a hard piece of plastic! My setup weighs 7 lbs with a Vari-xII, which is a good 2+ lbs less than my300Win with a Kahles 50mm scope.I only weigh 165 lbs, and the recoil is very manageable. The limbsaver will add a few ounces of weight if you are concerned about saving every possible ounce.

300shortmag 09-23-2007 01:48 PM

RE: .270 win or .270WSM ?
 
I have a 300 wsm in the browning stainless stalker and i love it. It shots better then the long action 300 mag i had, the recoil is about the same but i put a simms recoil pad on it. The 270 wsm would be my choice.(in the browning of course)


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