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Dobber1978 08-24-2007 09:28 AM

12 gauge Slug Range
 
How far out could you take down a deer with a rifled barrel slug gun? Assuming my aim was ok

In the process of buying a new gun, my first gun,

I see that some manufactures sell shot guns with 2 barrels, rifled and non rifled for birds,

Last year when deer hunting our longest shot was probably just over the 100 yard range with the closest being under 30,

THanks
Jeff

stalkingbear 08-24-2007 10:29 AM

RE: 12 gauge Slug Range
 
With the newer sabot type slugs-it all depends on accuracy of setup and your ability to acchive that accuracy level with skill. After EXTENSIVE shooting at various ranges that you might actually shoot,you will be able to determine max range. These modern slugs will have more than enough energy to cleanly harvest a deer as long as you can hit it properly. With the older forester type "rifled" slugs,stay within 100-125 yards.

sjsfire 08-24-2007 03:46 PM

RE: 12 gauge Slug Range
 
I've taken deer out as far as 125 and 137 yards with my 1187 with cantilever rifled barrel with the old foster slugs. I'm going to pick up some Lightfield sabots to shoot this year. Not because the fosters don't do a good job or I want to increase my range. I'm just tired of cleaning all the lead out of my gun with the fosters.

Gundigest 08-24-2007 04:00 PM

RE: 12 gauge Slug Range
 
I sighted my SBE II in with 3/4oz Federal barnes expanders. I set it up 3" high at 100 yards and shot a 1 1/2" group at 100 yards and 6" at 200 yards. 200 yards is the furthest I would shoot if I know the range.

Follower 08-24-2007 09:58 PM

RE: 12 gauge Slug Range
 
Two years ago I killed a real nice 16" whitetail buck at 150 absolutely honest, Leica ranged yards. The bullet passed completely through. This is with my 12 gauge H & R Ultra slughunter and Winchester Platinum tips. These shoot extremely well through my gun. They carry plenty of energy past this point, but do start to drop pretty quickly. I personally would probably not take a shot much further out than this. The Winchester Partition golds did not shoot anywhere near this accurately through my rifle, and being that they leave the muzzle a couple of hundred fps faster, they definately put more into your shoulder.

ChazyKEJ 08-25-2007 04:15 PM

RE: 12 gauge Slug Range
 
Dobber,

100 yds should be a piece of cake for a rifled barrel shotgun with a scope. I've taken deerout to130 yds though Itry to keep it to 100 or less. I regularly use a smoothbore out to 100 yds with a scope.

Just realize that a rifled barrel excels when topped with a scope. Shooting at 75 yds or less with open sights is a lot more cost effective with a smooth barrel. If you're looking at a combowith 2barrels, I'd definitely go for it.

KEJ

SJAdventures 08-25-2007 07:41 PM

RE: 12 gauge Slug Range
 
Back in Indiana I was deer hunting with a Mossberg 835, rifled slug barrel, Win. 3" mag Sabots, Simmons Pro Diamond recticle 4x32 scope. I shot a doe holding dead zero at 135 and dropped her on the spot. That is the farthest I ever tried a shot soeffectiveness could be farther than 135.

coloradoprohunter 08-26-2007 03:12 PM

RE: 12 gauge Slug Range
 
farthest i woudl shoot a foster out of a smoothbore is 125yds. but w/ my canteliver and sabots i would shoot out to 200. if ur a good shoot and using the right loads w/ a good sabot and scope then u can definitely shoot out to 200.

Rebel Hog 08-26-2007 03:46 PM

RE: 12 gauge Slug Range
 

ORIGINAL: Dobber1978

How far out could you take down a deer with a rifled barrel slug gun?
Remember, 200 yds is 2 football fields long and 150 yds is a football field and a 1/2 long.

I try to stay 150yds with Sabots and 100 yds with Foster type slugs, but have killed game at longer distances with both....Rather be sure at 150 & 100!:)

Adirondack Hunter 08-26-2007 08:37 PM

RE: 12 gauge Slug Range
 
at 200yds im shootin 5in groups, not perfect by any means, but itll take a deer down no problem, providing you hit it in the kill zone, which is much larger than 5in.

snedd162 08-28-2007 08:00 AM

RE: 12 gauge Slug Range
 
the new sabot slugs allow you to shoot much further but shooting anything much farther then 150 yards is very unlikely

BigJ71 08-28-2007 01:59 PM

RE: 12 gauge Slug Range
 

ORIGINAL: Follower

Two years ago I killed a real nice 16" whitetail buck at 150 absolutely honest, Leica ranged yards. The bullet passed completely through. This is with my 12 gauge H & R Ultra slughunter and Winchester Platinum tips. These shoot extremely well through my gun. They carry plenty of energy past this point, but do start to drop pretty quickly. I personally would probably not take a shot much further out than this. The Winchester Partition golds did not shoot anywhere near this accurately through my rifle, and being that they leave the muzzle a couple of hundred fps faster, they definately put more into your shoulder.
Follower,

This is the second time you posted something I would have said word for word with the exception my longest shot was a few yards shy of yours. I too find the Platinum tips to be more accurate out of my Ultra Slug Hunter Deluxe. I actually like the design of the Platinum tip better than the Partition (for deer sized game) and in my experience,it simply drops them in their tracks.

Follower 08-28-2007 10:36 PM

RE: 12 gauge Slug Range
 
Big, two other guys I have hunted whitetails with both have H&R Ultra Slug Hunters, one deluxe, the other standard, and they have both found the same thing, that the platinum tips group really well through these guns. Kind of nice to find this kind of barrel consistency out of a quite reasonably priced rifle.

BigJ71 08-28-2007 11:32 PM

RE: 12 gauge Slug Range
 

ORIGINAL: Follower

Big, two other guys I have hunted whitetails with both have H&R Ultra Slug Hunters, one deluxe, the other standard, and they have both found the same thing, that the platinum tips group really well through these guns. Kind of nice to find this kind of barrel consistency out of a quite reasonably priced rifle.
Yeah, I was shocked. I was pretty happy with the Mossberg bolt gun but I was reading a lot about the H&R so I had to see for myself. After sighting it in I was amazed on how accurate it was. I think the bull barrel has a lot to do with it but so does therifling twist 1-28 for the20ga and 1-34 for the 12ga.

It's set upspecifically to shoot the fast sabot slugsplus it's a very simple andsteady platform to start with. With it sighted in at 100ydsthe Winchester Platinum slugs will only drop about 5in at 150yds.

I think if you were set up in a place where extended shots were the norm, you could probably sight it in at 150yds and be able to reach out to 200yd depending on the slug selected.

I like the 100yd zero becauseI don't have to over adjust(Sights never have to leave the kill zone) from point blank all the wayout to 150yds.

Follower 08-30-2007 11:24 PM

RE: 12 gauge Slug Range
 
Obviously the weight of the H & R Ultra SlugHunter is also part of the reason the gun shoots quite accurately, but also, and no less importantly, does not feel like like a truck ran into your shoulder when you fire it. My previous rifle barreled shotgun was the Mossberg 695.My perceived recoil was considerably more from this gun, and I really could not get it to shoot nearly as accurately. I actually traded the Mossberg for the H&R and have been really happy with the decision. In the Mossbergs defense, it was lighter than the H&R.


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