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Colorado Luckydog 08-14-2007 10:30 PM

270 For Elk?
 
You guys know how I feel about 270 for elk, not for me. My long time elk hunting buddy wants me to let his nephew use my 270 this year for elk. I know the gun willdo the job if we have the proper bullet and the kid does his part. If the kid does end up using it, what will be the best brand and round for him to use. I do not reload and the biggest grain I have in theammocabinet is the Federal Fusion 150's(got a couple of boxes). Is there a better round without reloading? I want to give him the best available! I know I'm gonna catch some chit for this, but it's cool!

Thanks Bryan

Vapodog 08-14-2007 10:34 PM

RE: 270 For Elk?
 
If someone has 150 grain bonded bullets I'd use them....such as TBBc or A-Frame or Northfork etc....

HEAD0001 08-14-2007 10:53 PM

RE: 270 For Elk?
 
Does Hornady load a heavy(bullet) light Magnum load?? Does Federal load a heavy(bullet) Partition bullet in their Premium line?? That would be the best choices. But personally I would go with a different cartridge. Tom.

stubblejumper 08-14-2007 11:41 PM

RE: 270 For Elk?
 
If I had to use a 270win,with factory loads,I would use the federal tsx load.

EKM 08-15-2007 01:39 AM

RE: 270 For Elk?
 
Let'em round up their own rifle.
I'd recommend a 30-06 with 180gr Partitions.
If you're going to cave on your beliefs and hand over your own 270, then I agree with Stubblejumper and get the heaviest ones they make, as it puts the best face possibleon a bad deal. Especially with a newbie.

James B 08-15-2007 02:02 AM

RE: 270 For Elk?
 
150 TSX or 160 Nosler Partition.

eldeguello 08-15-2007 05:12 AM

RE: 270 For Elk?
 

ORIGINAL: Colorado Luckydog

You guys know how I feel about 270 for elk, not for me. My long time elk hunting buddy wants me to let his nephew use my 270 this year for elk. I know the gun willdo the job if we have the proper bullet and the kid does his part. If the kid does end up using it, what will be the best brand and round for him to use. I do not reload and the biggest grain I have in theammocabinet is the Federal Fusion 150's(got a couple of boxes). Is there a better round without reloading? I want to give him the best available! I know I'm gonna catch some chit for this, but it's cool!

Thanks Bryan
The .270 Win. is NOT inadequate for killing elk. No matter WHAT you shoot, you have to place the bullet in the right spot.

Too bad you don't handload. I have found the 150-grain Nosler Partition with 53.5 grains of IMR 4350 to be adequate for all North American big game, and even knew of a woman once in Fairbanks AK who had no trouble killing polar bear with that load.

Since I am a coward with nothing to prove, I would prefer my .416 Rigby for such critters. But the .270will sure kill elk!

See if you can find a factory load that uses the 150-grain Nosler Partition,a Fail-Safe, or something similar in a reliable 150-grain controlled-expansion bullet. Then make sure that load is accurate in your rifle.

ShatoDavis 08-15-2007 09:21 AM

RE: 270 For Elk?
 
Given your circumstances, I would try Federal premium brand loaded with 150 gr. Nosler partitions. I would make them buy the ammo though as its pricey:

http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=593581&t=11082005

Criggster 08-15-2007 05:08 PM

RE: 270 For Elk?
 
No need to pay that price for 150 grain NP's. I shoot'em through my .270 and get them for under $20 on sale at Wally's.

SJAdventures 08-15-2007 09:18 PM

RE: 270 For Elk?
 
Lots of elk have been taken with the 270. Not the greatest calber for that animal but with good shot placement it will do the job. Mightwantto restrict the yardage of the shots though. I would use as big as bullet as I could though.

jason miller 08-15-2007 10:05 PM

RE: 270 For Elk?
 
$20 says your 150 grain Fusions will blow right through any elk within 300 yards. On the website, Federal claims that the manufacturing process eliminates component seperation. Make sure your friend can shoot, and as long as he doesn't try any severe angles he should be fine. If you're still concerned, Federal loads: 140gr. Accubond, 150gr. Partition, 130gr. TSX, 130gr. Partition, 140gr. Bear Claw, and140gr. High Energy Bear Claw. All of these willhandle any game animal in North America with proper placement. Most people tend to underestimate a well-placed shot with a quality bullet from a small to medium rifle. A friend of mine kills an elk every year with a 50-60 lb. longbow(he shoots several different ones in this weight range), wooden arrows, and Snuffer broadheads. He regularly shoots completely through elk, even when hitting ribs. My point is that if you can make a hole through an elk's heart and/or lungs, it will die. If youknow your friend's nephew can hit a target that size, let him have at it. A bigger gun won't make up for a poor shot.

stubblejumper 08-15-2007 10:35 PM

RE: 270 For Elk?
 

Federal claims that the manufacturing process eliminates component seperation.
Ammunition manufacturers make many claims,but a good percentage don't hold water.

Follower 08-15-2007 11:34 PM

RE: 270 For Elk?
 
Maybe the tried and true Nosler Partition doesn't seem that sexy in the overall scheme of things anymore, but Federal still loads the 150 grain NP's in .270 Winchester. Can't really see that you need anymore than that as long as the elk gets shot somewhere in the chest cavity.

XTP 08-16-2007 08:58 PM

RE: 270 For Elk?
 
Couple years ago me and a buddy went for elk, both armed with .270's. Mine was fed 150 grain Hornady Interlock.
He took a huge bull, put two rounds of 150 grain Nosler Partitions into him and he only went a few yards. The second round was only because a neighboring property would not allow hunters on their land, even if to recover an animal. So the plan in that particular field was to keep shooting 'til it fell down. One pass through, one recovered on the far side... both through the vitals, end of story !! ;)

skeeter 7MM 08-17-2007 01:37 AM

RE: 270 For Elk?
 
Federal Premium 150gr Nosler Partitionor 130gr Barnes TSXFederal Premium would be my first choices.

Others:
Federal Premium140gr TBBC
Rem. Premier 140gr Aframe
Hornady Custom 150 gr Interlock SP
Winchester Supreme 140gr Failsafe (if you can find any)

I have personallyharvested elk and moose with the 270 win using 140gr failsafe and 150gr partition. Buddy of mine has shotthe majority ofhis elk and moose with the 270win, for as long as I have known him using only the 150 gr partition for everything. Never seen more then 1 hole in any of his animals, it's lungs or nothing with him. Key factors are placement, proper bullet and knowing yourlimitations.

Cloudwalker 08-17-2007 07:12 AM

RE: 270 For Elk?
 
What James B said: 150 gr. partitions

eldeguello 08-17-2007 07:39 AM

RE: 270 For Elk?
 

ORIGINAL: stubblejumper


Federal claims that the manufacturing process eliminates component seperation.
Ammunition manufacturers make many claims,but a good percentage don't hold water.
My understanding is that the "jacket" on a Fusion is just a thick electro-plating of copper added to the core. If so, it is actually part of the core, and cannot slip off like a regular jacket. Therefore, Federal's claim is accurate!

stubblejumper 08-17-2007 10:57 AM

RE: 270 For Elk?
 

If so, it is actually part of the core, and cannot slip off like a regular jacket. Therefore, Federal's claim is accurate!
I prefer to see some actual recovered bullets before judging a bullet.As I said,some claims hold up,many don't.


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