RE: What's with the bias against Weatherby??
 

alot of hostility..., howa, remington, ruger,german made, jap made, american made.....WHATEVER, shoot what you like, and I like the Weatherby, ballistics rival anything out there, guns look sexy with sweet curves, and they punch holes on top of one another at the range.

If you can't tote a gunup a hill because it weighstoo much, I would love to see you carry your downed game backdown the same hill along with the gun you carried up!!! Some people love Weatherby products (they are also one of the biggest charitable organizations in the gun industry) It appears that most don't, all I'm saying is that I'll put my jap made rifle, and my foreign made scope mounted on it against anyone shooting anything. Is the ammo is expensive, yes, but my dad said you only need one bullet on a hunt.

Thx for the replies
Stay safe

RE: What's with the bias against Weatherby??
 

I thought you wanted to know why people had bias against weatherby. I didn't know you just wanted people to reply to sing praises about your gun so you feel good about your purchase.

RE: What's with the bias against Weatherby??
 

I am not hostile. Just stating my expierences with Weatherby.

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Same here, and i say if a person can't handle the answer, don't ask the question!!

I got in an 300 Wby in my shop one time that the stock was so bad that i would never beable to sleep at night if i had sold it!

It hadone HUGE knot, i mean about 3" acrossthat went right through both sides ofthe box magazine that had been filled, and another right through the pistol grip... The stock was solid sap wood and full of smaller knots.... It was just insane that it ever got out of the factory!! I sent it back to Wby. and had it replaced...

That was the last Wby. i ever sold, as i just couldn't stick customers with the junk they were sending me!

At that time Wby was allowing $15.00ea. to be paid for there blanks, no wonder they were of such poor quality....

DM

RE: What's with the bias against Weatherby??
 

So basically that beautiful wood is nothing more than a very glossy varnish job? I have seen 2 of their stocks crack as well. For the money thats just unacceptable.

RE: What's with the bias against Weatherby??
 

Or Winchesterfor that matter.....

Other than the current offering of Winchester shotguns, I've never heard anyone say that a Winchetser or Browning was overpriced or overrated.

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I'm surprised no one has mentioned that most, if not all, or the WBY's that I've ever seen had those ridiculously long barrels.

RE: What's with the bias against Weatherby??
 

[:@][:@][:'(][:'(]Like I said bigcountry, Ill put my jap made rifle, and my imported burris sccope against anyone shooting anything. I dont need to justfy and thing that i've done. I didn't ask for parises either, If I did then find my quote where it says I did........................... didn't think so. NOW WHAT I SAID WAS "SHOOT WHAT YOU LIKE AND I LIKE WEATHERBY", then I mentioned if you can't carry your own firearm up a hill, then how in the hell do you carry your game back down it. Theonly thing making me hostile is your comments about my attitude. I am always kind and proper to everyone on this board. So please don't make me out to be aerk in front of everyone, an apology would be just about the right thing right about now!!!!:D:D:D

stay safe (yes even you big country)
and good luck this season

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I have had at least 10 mark V's and they were all accurate and well made. I like that big multi lug action, and have never had a problem with them that was not resolved by Weatherby with just a phone call. They were all 270 Weatherby magnums, and handloaded as a magnum. Even after 10 years they replaced some parts for me at no charge.I am not a fan of Remington, as they would not warranty one of their 700 BDL's that came from the factory with a chamber that had been cut with a chambering tool that was chippedand stored for over a year never fired. I "used" to support Remington,but not after that incident.
I am now strictly Ruger #1's and have found their warranty to be acceptable. Their products rival Weatherby in my books. My caliber choices are still Weatherby.Roy came up with a cartridge/rifle combination that is real hard to beat. One of the smoothest that is out there, imo. Rifles are like cars. That is why there are so many different manufacturers out there. Some like Volkswagons and some like Lincolns.

RE: What's with the bias against Weatherby??
 

"I thought you wanted to know why people had bias against weatherby. I didn't know you just wanted people to reply to sing praises about your gun so you feel good about your purchase."

Ditto for me.No, i do not like heavy rifles. Yes, i can carry the gun and game back down the hill, but when i do i can only make love to my wife three times that night.

RE: What's with the bias against Weatherby??
 

HA HA HA

RE: What's with the bias against Weatherby??
 

Lots of action at the falcon house? Last name isn't north is it?:D

RE: What's with the bias against Weatherby??
 

Three times...............not to shabby!!! If you were shooting a weatherby you would only need to do it once!!!! Don't worry, I'm not going to sing any praises about your sex life, only bash it (seems to be the way things work around here) Good luck with your hunts this season



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RE: What's with the bias against Weatherby??
 

Hey temp, just curious, do you own dozens of guns? Or just a few or what?

RE: What's with the bias against Weatherby??
 

Tempehunter, you asked for everyones thoughts about Weatherby rifles so we gave them to you and you proceded to get defensive about our thoughts.

And the big thing about it is that you don't even shoot a Weatherby. You shoot a HOWA 1500. That's what a Vanguard is, a HOWA 1500.

So we really don't know why you are getting defensive in the first place.

RE: What's with the bias against Weatherby??
 

Good point.

RE: What's with the bias against Weatherby??
 

man how deep is this hole gonna get

RE: What's with the bias against Weatherby??
 

Mark IVs?Never heard of them.However,I did own two mark Vs and was very disappointed in the accuracy of both considering the price.On the other hand,the howa rifles(sold as vanguards by Weatherby)have proven to be a good value for the price.

RE: What's with the bias against Weatherby??
 

this argument is no different than if the topic were cars or any product. some people like them and some don't. the only common ground is that everyone would have one if they did not have to fork out the money, so they satisfy themselves by buying something they can afford and base their argument on these premise

RE: What's with the bias against Weatherby??
 

I agree with you cdhunt. Some mechanics that i have been to love chevy's and say that they always see more fords in their shop while the guy across town says the exact opposite. Its a matter of preference.

I own a Mark V .340 and I have carried it on two elk hunts (one of which was succesful) andmany deer hunts. I have found that with factory bullets I get 1 1/2 inch groups at 100 definitely not stellar but pretty good. The 250 grain Noslers sure make a lasting impression onelk! BTW: the best shot on game I have ever seen was made with this rifle. My brother hit a runningwhitetail doe at 370 paces with a 200 grain spire point. As for as being long and heavy, I have to agree. When I deer hunt I would rather have my 30-30 or 243 but the 340 wasn't designed to hunt deer up close like we do in East Texas. I can't think of a better elk rifle though. I would definitely own another weatherby and I am currently coveting a weatherby accumark 30-378.

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I can promis you that Weatherby MK-V would be one of the very last rifles on my list of $1000+ rifles to purchase.

I have shot tooooooo many of them that did not produce acceptable accuracy and for a rifle that costs what they do a 1.5moa guarantee is crap.

RE: What's with the bias against Weatherby??
 

bigbulls--did you ever consider that the problen could be you? if you have shot a good number, as you claim. and could not get them to shoot well, maybe you should accept some schooling on the art of shooting.

RE: What's with the bias against Weatherby??
 

B.S. I own several rifles that cost as much or more than a mark V,and all are much more accurate.But I also have owned many rifles that were much more accurate than my mark Vs and cost much less.

RE: What's with the bias against Weatherby??
 

I own three Weatherby Vanguards in different calbers. Two with black syn.
stocks, and one new one with a beautiful walnut stock.
They may be a Howa, butI love these three rifles and the accuracy they produce.

RE: What's with the bias against Weatherby??
 

Ok, this discussion has stemmed some questions...Are the HOWA Vanguard rifles freebored for the WBY Calibers??? Also is the wood on the Howa Vangard crap also??? Just wondering...

RE: What's with the bias against Weatherby??
 

Not true, I forked out the money and got the shaft. No more Weatherby's for me unless its the Howa.

RE: What's with the bias against Weatherby??
 

Let me assure you that I am absolutely capable of shooting a rifle and know how to make one shoot that can't.

But you go ahead and keep making personal attacks with out knowing me, my experience, or my knowledge of firearms. It also doesn't seem thatI am alone in my opinions and experiences.

Remember, It is better to keep ones mouth shut and let everyone think you are a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.

Just oneshining example is a Remington 700 ADL I bought for my daughter for her birthday in .243 Winchester. I cost a whopping $305 after taxes and gun call. I can easily shoot 3/4 inch groups with that rifle with Federal blue box 100 grain soft points. This is right out of the box, no trigger work, no bedding work, no free floating the barrel, nothing done to this rifle at all.I have seen very few Weatherby MK-V'sthat will shoot this well.

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I would say that the vast majority of hunters/shooters have never even held a Weatherby, much less shot them. Thus they have no understanding of what a "Weatherby" really is. I am talking Weatherby's, not Vanguards. Price is a factor as well, as most hunters/shooters can't and won't justify spending $1-1.5K for a rifle.

My favorite Weatherby is my Mk-V .257 Wea. It has killed tons of game and critters. Never shot a single factory round in it, every round that has been fired in it has been my handloads. It was true legitimate.5 MOA shooter forabout the first 2.5-3Krounds, then accuracy started dropping off as the groups started opening up. However, it is not "out-of-the-box". I have pillar bedded, reworked the trigger, and floated the barrel.

Bottom line, a Weatherby rifleis, what it is. Yes, there are rifles out there that will out shoot them. Weatherby has never had a reputation as being the most accurate rifle "out-of the-box". There are 3 major reason why one buys a Weatherby rifle; 1. overall quality and looks(fit, finish, etc.), 2. the ballistic and terminal performance of a particularWeatherby round, 3.the Weatherby name

Weatherby has a 1.5MOA accuracy guarantee on their rifles, for 3 shots at 100yds. Most of the Waetherby's I have shot over the years, with few exceptions, would meet that.The few that wouldn't meet that, shot in the 2-2.5MOA range, which is still MOWT (minute-of-whitetail), but not what you expect from a $1.5K rifle.

With all that being said, go look on your local gun store shelves for a Remington 700, a Browning A-bolt, a Winchester 70, a Ruger M77, or a Savage, chambered in .240 Wea, .257 Wea, .270 Wea, .340 Wea, .378 Wea, or .460 Wea, and come back here and let us know how that particular rifle shoots. I beleive heII will be frozen before we get a report on that.

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I have no weatherby experience but if I paid $1.5k for a rifle and all it could do was 1.5" at 100 I would be flaming pissed. Even if it was consistent at 1.5". Call me an accuracy snob but for that kind of money it better shoot under an 1" consistently. Especially since my muzzloaders shoot better than that.

Tom

RE: What's with the bias against Weatherby??
 

Last reply on this subject!!!!!!!!!

I fell into the trap that many others have, I argued on the internet. Some people have nothing better to do then to put others down. So on that note, I will say this and be done with this subject.

You but a remington or any other because youHAVEto have itto hunt with a rifle. You buy a Weatherby because you WANT to have it to hunt.

Also, arguing on the intenet is like competing in the special olympics, even if you win you are still a..........well you know. Case closed!!!

RE: What's with the bias against Weatherby??
 

I don't have to go to my gunshop for one, i have a 700 Rem. here now chambered for .240 Wby., and also a 700 Rem. in .340 Wby...

Both shoot better than ANY Mark V i've ever owned or shot...

But, i'm not one of the complainers about Wby. accuracy, i'm a complainer abour there poor quality. And MOST Wby. owners can't even see it, so Wby. keeps on over chargeing for there guns...

DM

RE: What's with the bias against Weatherby??
 

Iam unaware that Remington everoffered the M700 from the factory in .240 Weatherbyor.340Weatherby. I know they offer the .300Weatherbyfor a short while back in the early to mid90's.

If those M700's.240 and .340 Weatherby's were rebarreled and otherwise more or less customized or custom builts, which isvery possible,then how can they be compared to an "out-of-the-box" Weatherby Mk V?

If you are going to stand by those comments, then compare an "out-of-the-box" Remington 700, a Browning A-bolt, a Winchester 70, a Ruger M77, or a Savage, chambered in .240 Wea, .257 Wea, .270 Wea, .340 Wea, .378 Wea, or .460 Wea, to an "out-of-the-box" Weatherby Mk V. Then feel free to come back and post the results. Like I said, I beleive heII will be frozen before we get a report on that, causeNONE of the above mentioned manufactures offerANYTHINGchambered in ANY Weatherby rounds mentioned above. Period.

A Weatherby Mk V is, what it is. If it does not meet your expectation for ANY reason, or cost too much $$$, or a 1.5 MOA guarantee doesn'tmake youwarm and fuzzy,the luster of the blueing to high, the stock too nice, or whatever, then by all means don't waste your money on one. It not my job to defend Weatherby. Today I have only one left, a Mk V deluxe .257 Wea. If Savage offered this round in a 114 American Classic for $600, I would have one tomorrow. But they don't so if I were to want another, I have only 2 options, I would either have to buy another Weatherby or custom build my own.

RE: What's with the bias against Weatherby??
 

If the total cost of the 700 plus rebarreling is the same or less than the factory mark Vs,I would call it a fair comparison.

RE: What's with the bias against Weatherby??
 

Id say it was still quite a bit cheaper.

RE: What's with the bias against Weatherby??
 

Besides still be cheaper or the same cost, you would have something in the end.;). I just don't feel that the Weatherby gives a guy what he pays for.

RE: What's with the bias against Weatherby??
 

James you know you love to brag about your Weatherby's......give it up you are busted! :D

RE: What's with the bias against Weatherby??
 

I Weatherby in the woods hunting!:D:D:D

RE: What's with the bias against Weatherby??
 

I agree, but you don't even have to re-barell to getthe 340... You can buy a 700 in .338 Win. Mag., rechamber it and putit back on...

BUT, i wouldn't call re-barreling a rifle a "custom gun" like the other poster alluded to...

For the record, my .340 bbl is a Douglas and the .240 bbl was made by PO Ackley.

DM

RE: What's with the bias against Weatherby??
 

I was a gun dealer for 18 years and I loved and used Weatherby's. I went to South Gate, CA. to Weatherby corporate offices and took delivery of my first 300 weatherby mag. from founder Roy Weatherby. I just bow hunt know but ifI needed to use a rifle, I would pull out one of my Weatherby's out.

RE: What's with the bias against Weatherby??
 

I have a Weatherby Vanguard in .300 Wby Magnum and am very happy with it. While the ammunition is expensive, you have to remember that to get a Remington with equivalent ballistics you would have to get the .300 RUM and you will pay as much for ammunitionin that chamberingas youwill for .300 WBY Mag ammunition.

Caldoc