RE: What's with the bias against Weatherby??
 

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RE: What's with the bias against Weatherby??
 

My dad just traded off his weatherby 257 mark 5 for an A-bolt in 25-06. The weatherby was fine, but he just doesn't need. Costs too much and the 25-06 is a little more usefull to him.

RE: What's with the bias against Weatherby??
 

Vanguards are a different beast, as they are not really what I consider a weatherby action. I still think they have only 2 lugs. But freebore is basically where the bullet has alot of room before it hits the rifling.

Back in the day, Roy's designs were great, as limited powder availability, and freebore enabled him to get alot of velocity. But with so many custom powders to market, its not needed anymore. Freebore can hinder accuracy. Not saying it always will. But can.

RE: What's with the bias against Weatherby??
 

The 3 issues that I hear most often about Wby.
1, is the $50 to $75 box of ammo,
2, the extra money doesn't translate into a real advantage over "normal magnums" either in terms of accuracy or terminal performance.
3, the biggest complaint that I hear is that people who use Wby's are perceived by average Joe hunter as elitest.

RE: What's with the bias against Weatherby??
 

I absolutely loved my Accumark 7mm WM until I carried up Pigeon Mtn. Too heavy and too long for my terrain. I would never bash them, though. I think they're fine rifles.

RE: What's with the bias against Weatherby??
 

Weatherby's are not CRF and many folks insist on that feature. Also (at least traditionally) the finish was so high-polish and glossy as to flash across the canyons for miles.

The finest Weatherbys today IMO are the Vanguards!

RE: What's with the bias against Weatherby??
 

I have an older (mid 60's) German made Mark V in 300 Weatherby Mag that shoots "lights out". It's a beautiful rifle and like I said it shoots fantastic. Can't comment on the newer Jap stuff as I have never shot those but I'd buy another German made Weatherby anyday.

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Weatherby Vanguard is a fantastic rifle.I had one in 30-06 and was
extremely accurate.Beautiful wood stock that would rival most any
gun manufactured today.For 550.00 it would shoot with any Remington
700 out there and I should know as I have had many of them and they
are also awesome guns.One person said they were only a Howa but
most American guns today have some part or either all parts made
over seas.Ruger is totally made in America but some people still bash
them any way.How about Browning?Parts made in Germany and then
assembled in Portugal then sold in America and we think Browning is a
good gun and so do I!Today I mainly hunt with a marlin 1895 Guide
gun in 45/70 and luv it.But I would buy a Weatherby Vanguard again
in a standard caliber in a minute.Lots of Vanguards now sold today
and not many other guns come with a 1 1/2 inch guaranteed accuracy
target nowadays and they ship the target with it.Great gun for the
money and I am still glad they are catching on better than ever.The
anti-gunners luv to see us argue among ourselves.I wont do that as
I like most any well Made gun that is manufactured today.For now I
have gone back to my roots and luv my Marlin lever guns in Big Bore
calibers for my mountain hunting but would feel just as comfortable
with another vanguard in a .270 if thats what I wanted.As long as what
ever I carry and it is accurate and reliable I say go for it! Mike :D

RE: What's with the bias against Weatherby??
 

We live in the day of cutting edge technology. Weatherby at their inception was cutting edge technology. The second point was that Weatherby's were totally reliable, in a day when all firearms were not totally reliable. Weatherby made their name in dangerous game rifles, and that flowed over into the "magnum" craze market.

If you wanted anything "Hotter" than the standard cartridges then you had to go with Weatherby, it was the only game in town. That is not the fact any more, you can get magnum cartridges from all the manufacturers. Also if a rifle shot 1 to 1-1/2 inch groups that was acceptable-that is not the case anymore.

Roy's theory(I personally heard him say this at the SHOT show in the 80's) was a rifle should be hot and beautiful, but totally reliable-then someone would add just like a good woman. Hot being magnum performance and beautiful being good wood. IMO if Roy saw his rifles bastardized the way they have been, he would roll over in his grave.

I own and have owned several. Some were shooter's and some were not. With the exception of the "Ultralight"-(which wasn't that light)they were all works of art, and were 100% reliable. Tom.

RE: What's with the bias against Weatherby??
 

Dads mark v 257 is will out shoot my friends custom job. in 25/06 it is a remington 700 action and a shilen barrel and trigger. he payed way over 2k for it and dad payed less then $700 for his a couplreyears ago.