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Well I am in a shotgun only as of now, but that may change within the next two years, and i was wondering what would be a good rifle to get. Max distance I'd need would be 200 yards. I was thinkin maybe a 25-06 but not sure, not really familiar with rifles. any help?
was possibly thinkin about getting whatever it is in a T/C Encore form, and dont know about scopes

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You really cant go wrong with most high powered rifled at 200 yards or less i would say, 270 is what i shoot, so when i say i would get a 270 i guess its based on that, lol , Heck my buddy killed one at 300 + this year with his 243, dropped in its tracks, get a good rifled, get to know your gun, and u will be set. One thing i would like to say though... i wouldnt go with a caliber just cause its bigger, dead is dead is dead, all day long, shot placment is the key :)

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.243 - 25-06- or 7mm-08, those would be my choices.

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308 is pretty great!

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.243 would be pretty good and you could use it for varmints also.

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As you could also with the 2506 he mentioned as well. Of the 2 - 2506 would be my choice.

200 yards max and deer sized the options are large. Something to consider maybe checking local area for ammo selection(assuming you won't be reloading), this may help narrow the field somewhat.

Just a thoughtseeing you are thinking about an encore platform have you consider a 50 cal ML barrel?? Being you live in a shotgun area it is likely it can be used now and in the future you could always add CF barrels if desired. As an ML capable to reach 200 yards with practice and finding the right load combo!

PS forgot re:scopes. I am of the thinking scopes and mounts are not the place to save a few bucks. For a big game rig I like a starting point of the bushnell elites or equiv (approx 200.00) and going up to whatever your eye, heart and budget can allow. As far as the mounts go I personally like/trust Leupold and Warne Maxima. The majority of my biggame CF's wear Leupold Double Dovetail's.If an ML is of interets I suggestlooking atWarne Maxima Quick Release, IME excellent on my inlines &highly reccomended.

Good Luck

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.270 and in Remington 700...or 710 both great guns 710 is what I have more affordable and more accurate than my friends 700..

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I'll leave the caliber up to you, but with deer hunting I like to have a semi aoutomatic. It just has that assurance that if you need to get a second shot off it is there very quickly. For this action the Benelli R1 is an amazing rifle. My Father bought one in .308 and heabsolutely loves it. It also cycles like a machine gun:D:D, well not really but it is super fast. Plus it has the accuracy to punch 1'' MOA groups out to the distances you want to shoot. Check their website to see the calibers it comes in if your interested. Good Luck.

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There are so many choices for deer... and for anything of that matter. Let's see... the .243 is great deer rifle for beginners and doesn't deliver as much kick as say a .270 or .30-06. But, the .270 has one of the flattest trajectories on the market. The .30-30 would be a great brush gun, but with a maximum range of 200 yds, which I wouldn't even feel comfortable with. The 7mm-08 has an extremely wide selection of bullets, with ballistics similar to the 7mm, just with a little less kick, and it shoots about 200 fps slower thana .270...

There are so many choices out there, and a number of factors play out. Do some homework on a wide variety of calibers and decide for yourself what is best for you.

BTW, most hunters use the .270, .30-06, and the .308. I use a .270 and 7mm-08.

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Amen on getting the best scope you can and not wasting your money on the cheap ones.

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When I am not using a my bow, I take out a .270. Is the only thing you are going to use this gun for is deer hunting? If you are going to be using it for multiple types / sizes of game, you may want to look into a 3006. You can such a wide range of grain bullets. I don't remember the exact ranges, but you can get like a 90 grain to a 190 grain bullet.

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With you looking at a max range of 200 yards, you really have a bunch of good choices. Some that jump out at me are 308, 7-08, and the 358. If you like the 25-06 go for it, as it's great. You have so many choices with this one it really comes down to what you like best. Here's an idea, with you wanting an Encore just buy 2-3 barrels of you top choices and see which one you like best. You could alway sell the ones you don't like or better yet just keep'em all!:D;):D

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Yeah I would probably use a 25-06 too, butat 200 yards it wont kill a deer any better than a 243.I'd rather have a243 forvarmints.But he did mention anything about varmints Iguess.

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For under 200 yards, the .308 is king, low-recoil, and very similar tothe short-range power of the 30-06.
Great accuracy, too.

Josiah

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thanks guys. for the most part it will be a deer rifle, but would be willing to do some varmint hunting too but if i get into that very seriously i'd maybe invest in a different gun. I'm kind of leaning toward a 30-06, because of the variable type of bullets to be used, and someday i may go out west. Thanks again!

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Great choice, especially if you're going out West sometime.

If you were more serious about varmit hunting, I would suggest getting a 7mm Remington Magnum, the power is the same at close range in comparison to the '06, and the smaller bullet diameter makes it better for varmits.
And, at longer range, the 7mm has much better trajectory.

But for deer, I would get the 30-06, it's cheap, and is one ofthe best "Put 'em down fast", but in a standard cartridge.

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Huh ? Do what ? A 7 mag for varmints ?

(Shakes his head and slowly walks away)

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.243win all the way my only segjestion is say no to the encore single shot is all u get if i was u id get a savage with the accutrigger or a remington 700sps

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I've got 7 buddies here in NC that bought '06s because they might "Go out west...Someday..."

One bought his in 1952...None have been yet...5 of the 7 have bought a .243 in the past 4-5 years...
Buy a .243...25-06...7mm-08 or even a .270....IF you can afford to ever go out west, you can afford
to buy a proper rifle...

Buying too much gun is a sure way to start flinching...I'll tell you at least 60% of the hunters out there flinch
most of the time...There are more deer lost due to flinching than any other way...

We had a saying back when I played football...Hit them harder in the 4th than in the 1st and they will start laying down....That's true...That '06 sure sounds bad...It can be, I expect the '06 has caused more hunters to flinch than any cartridge in history...There are better rounds for deer than a '06, rounds that recoil less so you will shoot them more, there is no way you can be a great shot shooting a box of shells a year, and I bet most on here shoot less than that...

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Holy crap, I couldn't even imagine.

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I understand what you're saying, my grandpa's 30-06 was a Winchester Model 70, and it kicked terrible, but when my grandpa got aLimbSaver Recoil Pad, the rifle turned into the recoil of less than a .308, and it was suddenly fun to shoot, I believe recoil shouldn't keep someone from firing a good rifle, they should get a recoil pad, they won't regret it, and there's nothing wrong with using a recoil pad, if it makes you shoot comfortably, then it's good.

Stick with the 30-06.

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I tend to think that the .300 Win Mag is a good rifle too. YOu can load it lighter for deer, and you can load it nice and Heavy if you get out west for something a little bigger. With the right load, you can shoot everything from pigs to bears and all that falls in between. The .308 is an excellent choice as well, though some may think it is a little light for out west.
You might look into the TC rifles since youhave the ability to just buy a new barrel when you want a new gun. Just a thought.

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While i'll admit to shooting many varmits with a larger then required cartridges, I don't believe it is possible to buy one rifle that is suitedfor varmit to elk + sized game. So I would personally wash the idea of one cart. for everything. Sorry but if your after pelt and after bigger NA game you'll be better served by more then one rifle. The 3006 is a solid choice for biggame in NA and will serve you on the odd varmit pop but its ability to use the large selection of the 308 cal bullets shouldn't be confused with excellence for an all purpose round. Same said for a 270, 7mm, ect... Point is buy for now and let the future take care of itself!

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Jumping on what somebody here said, live for now. Easy to say, "I might get out west someday" but how long down the road will that someday be. If you are just ging to kill deer and most other game found here in eastern US, then get the .308. Good for deer, might be a little much for prairie dogs / varments, but then, what good are they anyhow. I don't see too many varment fir lined gloves.
Sure, there may be what others consider a better cartidge, but I really like the .308.

Good luck with whatever you pick