Alright guys, it's time for honesty
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RE: Alright guys, it's time for honesty
There is simply no way to fire any gun with more recoil than a 30-06 accurately without resorting to a brake.Below is as good as I can shoot my unbraked 300ultramag at 100 yards with full power hunting loads.
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#32
RE: Alright guys, it's time for honesty
"There is simply no way to fire any gun with more recoil than a 30-06 accurately without resorting to a brake.Below is as good as I can shoot my unbraked 300ultramag at 100 yards with full power hunting loads."
This is a fallacy, because how much recoil a person canstand is a very individual thing. I've known women who weighed under 130 pounds who could shoot a .470 double with no problems at all. In fact, the smaller framed,lighter people ride with the recoil instead of being smashed by it!
When I started shooting my first .30/'06 (at age 13), I thought it was just horrendous in the blast and recoil department. But after I had gotten used to a .375 H&H Magnum and used it for several years, I found that going back to the old '06 was a pleasant interlude. Just look at the calibers little old Elmer Keith used to use!
This is a fallacy, because how much recoil a person canstand is a very individual thing. I've known women who weighed under 130 pounds who could shoot a .470 double with no problems at all. In fact, the smaller framed,lighter people ride with the recoil instead of being smashed by it!
When I started shooting my first .30/'06 (at age 13), I thought it was just horrendous in the blast and recoil department. But after I had gotten used to a .375 H&H Magnum and used it for several years, I found that going back to the old '06 was a pleasant interlude. Just look at the calibers little old Elmer Keith used to use!
#33
RE: Alright guys, it's time for honesty
ORIGINAL: stubblejumper
There is simply no way to fire any gun with more recoil than a 30-06 accurately without resorting to a brake.Below is as good as I can shoot my unbraked 300ultramag at 100 yards with full power hunting loads.
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d128/stubblejumper11/300ultramaggroups.jpg
There is simply no way to fire any gun with more recoil than a 30-06 accurately without resorting to a brake.Below is as good as I can shoot my unbraked 300ultramag at 100 yards with full power hunting loads.
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d128/stubblejumper11/300ultramaggroups.jpg
#34
RE: Alright guys, it's time for honesty
My doctor has prohibited me from using magnum loads due to an injury. Last year I sold my 7 mag so I wouldn't be tempted. Now I am left shooting a .30-06 with managed-recoil ammo, .223, and 7.62X39 as my deer guns. I like my 06 just fine, but I would still like to shoot a bigger magnum. How much recoil reduction can you get from a muzzle brake? The only braked rifle I have ever fired was a .50 Barrett, so I don't exactly have a frame of reference.
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RE: Alright guys, it's time for honesty
I shoot a 30-06 and a .338 ultra Mag. I use a break while practicing and not while hunting. To not flinch is just in your mind. Just pretend your shooting a .22 and there will be no recoil. Try to keep your eye open thrugh the whole shot and you wont flinch. Works for me.
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RE: Alright guys, it's time for honesty
ORIGINAL: BigTiny
My doctor has prohibited me from using magnum loads due to an injury. Last year I sold my 7 mag so I wouldn't be tempted. Now I am left shooting a .30-06 with managed-recoil ammo, .223, and 7.62X39 as my deer guns. I like my 06 just fine, but I would still like to shoot a bigger magnum. How much recoil reduction can you get from a muzzle brake? The only braked rifle I have ever fired was a .50 Barrett, so I don't exactly have a frame of reference.
My doctor has prohibited me from using magnum loads due to an injury. Last year I sold my 7 mag so I wouldn't be tempted. Now I am left shooting a .30-06 with managed-recoil ammo, .223, and 7.62X39 as my deer guns. I like my 06 just fine, but I would still like to shoot a bigger magnum. How much recoil reduction can you get from a muzzle brake? The only braked rifle I have ever fired was a .50 Barrett, so I don't exactly have a frame of reference.
#38
RE: Alright guys, it's time for honesty
Some critters might require a magnum rifle although I don't know which ones it would be. Magnums are not superior, they are different you can tack a magnum handle on anything but it comes down to sufficient penetration and velocity and muzzle energy. You can kill something just so dead and anyone who thinks a magnum is automatically Superior is an idiot. If someone can't place his shots well with a Magnum is it still superior for him to use? I have a 416 Rem Mag and am sure as hell no stranger to hunting with all types of rifles and handguns. I no longer find any need for big magnum rifles for anything on this continent but knock yourself silly if you do.
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RE: Alright guys, it's time for honesty
ORIGINAL: James B
Some critters might require a magnum rifle although I don't know which ones it would be. Magnums are not superior, they are different you can tack a magnum handle on anything but it comes down to sufficient penetration and velocity and muzzle energy. You can kill something just so dead and anyone who thinks a magnum is automatically Superior is an idiot. If someone can't place his shots well with a Magnum is it still superior for him to use? I have a 416 Rem Mag and am sure as hell no stranger to hunting with all types of rifles and handguns. I no longer find any need for big magnum rifles for anything on this continent but knock yourself silly if you do.
Some critters might require a magnum rifle although I don't know which ones it would be. Magnums are not superior, they are different you can tack a magnum handle on anything but it comes down to sufficient penetration and velocity and muzzle energy. You can kill something just so dead and anyone who thinks a magnum is automatically Superior is an idiot. If someone can't place his shots well with a Magnum is it still superior for him to use? I have a 416 Rem Mag and am sure as hell no stranger to hunting with all types of rifles and handguns. I no longer find any need for big magnum rifles for anything on this continent but knock yourself silly if you do.