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Chris_H 07-23-2007 05:22 PM

What gun is this?
 
hang on

BigTiny 07-23-2007 05:33 PM

RE: What gun is this?
 
The pics aren't showing up. You could try posting a link.

doubleA 07-23-2007 06:48 PM

RE: What gun is this?
 
Sorry, but that last thunder storm knocked out my psyhic powers. [8D]

Pawildman 07-23-2007 08:35 PM

RE: What gun is this?
 
Uhhhh...could you maybe describe it?

jeepkid 07-23-2007 08:48 PM

RE: What gun is this?
 
Just create a PhotoBucket account, download the pic to photobucket, copy the URL and then post the URL here.;)

Chris_H 07-23-2007 09:10 PM

RE: What gun is this?
 
alright, I'll describe it untile i get the pics. Made in 1929; not in shooting condition (splits the case when fired). Has receiver and hammer that resembles a mosin nagant. Very long, about 3.5 - 4 ft. Military issued to my great grandfather.

BigTiny 07-23-2007 09:14 PM

RE: What gun is this?
 
If it was issued to your Gramps in 29, I'm going to guess 1903 Springfield. Pics would be nice.:D

Wingbone 07-24-2007 03:57 AM

RE: What gun is this?
 
I'd vote Enfield. They were quite long and in 1929 would have issued. The splitting cases is interesting. I've never heard of one splitting cases and still being able to operate. There were some Enfields made in .303 British, maybe you're using the wrong cartridge.

Pygmy 07-24-2007 04:48 AM

RE: What gun is this?
 
What caliber is it..?? Straight or bent bolt..?? Any markings or stampings on it..??.. Detachable magazine ..??..

Chris_H 07-24-2007 06:25 AM

RE: What gun is this?
 
I'd like to know what caliber it is... my father told me it was probably 7.62, so I'm guessing a 7.62x54. It has a straight bolt, and the receiver looks exactly like that of a mosin nagant. It has a stock that goes about halfway down the barrel, and the stock has no pistol grip with a metal plate on the back. On the top of the barrel, (right in front of the action), it has a star with an arrow pointing up inside of the star. Below it, it says "No.", and below that, it says "102940." To the top left of of the star, there is small circle with the symbol "II" in it. The magazine is connected to the trigger guard. The magazine isn't "detachable," but it swings open like a lever so you can quickly unload the rifle. I'm guessing you reload from the top like a WWII springfeild... or maybe you load it from the bottom... I dont know.

Still tryin these pictures on! Anything that runs on electricity hates me and doesnt want to work!!!

Pygmy 07-24-2007 07:14 AM

RE: What gun is this?
 
I'd only be guessing without seeing the picture, but it sounds like one of the Russian or Finnish Moisin Nagant variations...

Are you sure about being ISSUED to your grandfather..??.. I know of no straight bolt rifles issued to US troops...



eldeguello 07-24-2007 09:01 AM

RE: What gun is this?
 

ORIGINAL: Chris_H

alright, I'll describe it untile i get the pics. Made in 1929; not in shooting condition (splits the case when fired). Has receiver and hammer that resembles a mosin nagant. Very long, about 3.5 - 4 ft. Military issued to my great grandfather.
Never seen a Mosin-Nagant that had a hammer.........

eldeguello 07-24-2007 09:06 AM

RE: What gun is this?
 

ORIGINAL: Pygmy

I'd only be guessing without seeing the picture, but it sounds like one of the Russian or Finnish Moisin Nagant variations...

Are you sure about being ISSUED to your grandfather..??.. I know of no straight bolt rifles issued to US troops...


After the collapse of the Czarist regime in 1918, the US gov't seized a great number of M/N rifles that were made here (Rem. & N.E. Westinghouse), and used them for training rifles because the M1903's and M1917's were in short supply.

In addition, the 27th U.S. Infantry (Wolfhounds) Regiment thatwent to Vladivostok, Siberia to fight the Reds were issuedM/N'sinstead of 03's due to ammo supply problems....... http://www.kolchak.org/History/Siberia/aef.htm

Pygmy 07-24-2007 05:14 PM

RE: What gun is this?
 
Eldeguello.... Thanks for the history lesson..Very interesting... If it were one of THOSE M/Ns it would be a very interesting specimen collector wise..

When Chris mentioned a hammer I just assumed he was referring to the bolt knob...

Chris_H 07-24-2007 05:39 PM

RE: What gun is this?
 
yes, thats what I meant when I said hammer. And referring when I said it was issued, that is what I am guessing because this gun was used on the feild.

Chris_H 07-24-2007 05:49 PM

RE: What gun is this?
 
apparently, my pictures have to many kilobytes and the files are too large to download. I don't know what to do about that...

Adirondack Hunter 07-24-2007 09:00 PM

RE: What gun is this?
 
hmm, letsa see, ms.cleo says, .303 enfield! hope that helps ya darlin, haha.

Bow_hunter15 07-24-2007 09:27 PM

RE: What gun is this?
 
Top is enfield bottom is moisin nagant







Look like one of these 2

Chris_H 07-25-2007 09:54 AM

RE: What gun is this?
 
It looks like the bottom one, just that it doesnt have the wood going all the way down the barrel.

Chris_H 07-25-2007 10:07 AM

RE: What gun is this?
 
Alright! Thanks jag3, I stretched the images smaller and posted them on photobucket... now yall will finally see it!

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x101/Chris_h08/rifle/IMG_1768-1.jpg
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x101/Chris_h08/rifle/IMG_1769.jpg
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x101/Chris_h08/rifle/IMG_1777.jpg
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x101/Chris_h08/rifle/IMG_1772.jpg

Adirondack Hunter 07-25-2007 12:29 PM

RE: What gun is this?
 
it kinda looks like an m44 to me.

BigTiny 07-25-2007 04:57 PM

RE: What gun is this?
 
I'm guessing Mosin-Nagant. If it was American made, that's a really nice collector piece.

ACutting 07-25-2007 05:57 PM

RE: What gun is this?
 
Its a mosin no doubt it just missing the forend.

8mm/06 07-25-2007 07:43 PM

RE: What gun is this?
 
Looks like a Mosin with the fore-stock cut down. The barrel seems too long for a model 44. If you can verify it's chamber to be either 7.62 X 54 or something else you can go from there with deciding how to proceed. Any reputable smith could do a chamber casting for you if you are planning on shooting it. That way you'll know the cartidge you're supposed to be sticking in it and also the condition of the chamber.

Chris_H 07-25-2007 09:05 PM

RE: What gun is this?
 
I have plans to bring it to the Gun DR. tomorrow.

longrifle1000 07-25-2007 09:11 PM

RE: What gun is this?
 
It most certainly is not a M44, nor was it made in the USA.

Check out this link for more info on the Mosin's.

http://7.62x54r.net/

jesuvuah 07-26-2007 10:39 AM

RE: What gun is this?
 
I have an m44 and the action and markings look just like my m44, but the rest of the rifle looks a lot different.

Chris_H 07-26-2007 02:22 PM

RE: What gun is this?
 
Thanks, fellas. This will stay in the family.

Chris


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