30.06, .270 or 7mm
12-31-2002, 08:03 PM
#31
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Raleigh NC USA
Posts: 352
RE: 30.06, .270 or 7mm
When folks mention the 7mm they're usually refering to the 7mm Remington magnum. The 7mm-08 is the same caliber with a smaller cartridge. The magnum will have more power and will have a greater effective range. It will also kick a bit more. The 7mm-08 is sometimes described as more pleasureable to shoot. All other things being equal, it has less recoil. Here's a small quote from Nosler's Reloading Guide 5th edition. The author is refering to taking a deer at a short range.
"It doesn't take a shot clear to the county line. Nor does it take excessive smashing power. What it does take is a rifle that's been made familiar with pleasant shooting practice..." "When shooters have had their fill of hard-kicking ear-abusing big-cased wonders, the 7mm-08 will be there, still taking game just as effectively as ever."
If you plan on taking game within 300 yards you probably don't have a real "need" for a magnum. All of the calibers that've been mentioned would be fine for hogs or deer within that range.
Check out ammo availability and prices in your area. I was a little curious myself, and looked around while out shopping today. Good old Wal-Mart had 5 different types of 30-06 ammo, all around $20 a box. I shoot a 270WSM (short magnum) and finding ammo can be frustrating. Equivalant ammos to some of the 30-06 i saw can run $30 to $35 a box. Wal-Mart had not 270WSM or 7mm-08 ammo available.
As for manufacturers, you might want to check out Browning and Tikka. I have a Browning A-Bolt and am very happy with it. I've read a lot of good things about Tikka rifles on these boards also.
"It doesn't take a shot clear to the county line. Nor does it take excessive smashing power. What it does take is a rifle that's been made familiar with pleasant shooting practice..." "When shooters have had their fill of hard-kicking ear-abusing big-cased wonders, the 7mm-08 will be there, still taking game just as effectively as ever."
If you plan on taking game within 300 yards you probably don't have a real "need" for a magnum. All of the calibers that've been mentioned would be fine for hogs or deer within that range.
Check out ammo availability and prices in your area. I was a little curious myself, and looked around while out shopping today. Good old Wal-Mart had 5 different types of 30-06 ammo, all around $20 a box. I shoot a 270WSM (short magnum) and finding ammo can be frustrating. Equivalant ammos to some of the 30-06 i saw can run $30 to $35 a box. Wal-Mart had not 270WSM or 7mm-08 ammo available.
As for manufacturers, you might want to check out Browning and Tikka. I have a Browning A-Bolt and am very happy with it. I've read a lot of good things about Tikka rifles on these boards also.
12-31-2002, 11:34 PM
#34
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Western Nebraska
Posts: 3,393
RE: 30.06, .270 or 7mm
Xcommercial fisherman, while you will see a decidedly big improvement in power in the .30-06 over the .30-30, recoil might not be a significant increase because the guns built for .30-06 are usually a little heavier than guns built for .30-30
You'll know you touched off more with the '06, but it won't bite your shoulder as much as you might think!!!
You'll know you touched off more with the '06, but it won't bite your shoulder as much as you might think!!!
01-09-2003, 12:56 AM
#35
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: QUALICUM BEACH BRITISH COLUMBIA CANADA
Posts: 21
RE: 30.06, .270 or 7mm
xcomercial fisherman any one of the 3(270- 30-06- 7 mm rem mag ) are hard to beat. I own 1 of each, I use the 270 win the most. I've shot blacktail,whitetail,mule deer . Mostly blacktail deer with these rifles. I live on Vancouver Island,BC Canada. The avarage shot being about 100yrds to 350yrds To 350 yrds the 270win or 30-06 are great. The 7mm rem mag 350yrds + is even better. But use good quality bullets in the 7mm rem mag, some of the cheaper ones blow up on the surface.Lots of wasted meat.
01-10-2003, 07:59 AM
#36
Fork Horn
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Baltimore MD USA
Posts: 109
RE: 30.06, .270 or 7mm
xcomercial fisherman,
I am new to this as well and received a lot of great advice from this group.
I have a .270 and my dad has a .30-06 - They are both Ruger Mark II (mentioned above). I am no expert - I am a pure novice but I like the Rugers and have heard from others that they good rifle for what you pay for it.
My understanding is that the .270 is flat shooting and the .30-06 offers more versatility with bullet weights.
The only thing I would do differently is that I would have bought the synthetic stock with the stainless barrel. I bought my gun second hand from my brother so I didnt get to pick.
Good luck
Bill
I am new to this as well and received a lot of great advice from this group.
I have a .270 and my dad has a .30-06 - They are both Ruger Mark II (mentioned above). I am no expert - I am a pure novice but I like the Rugers and have heard from others that they good rifle for what you pay for it.
My understanding is that the .270 is flat shooting and the .30-06 offers more versatility with bullet weights.
The only thing I would do differently is that I would have bought the synthetic stock with the stainless barrel. I bought my gun second hand from my brother so I didnt get to pick.
Good luck
Bill
01-10-2003, 09:01 AM
#37
Typical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Free Union, VA
Posts: 750
RE: 30.06, .270 or 7mm
gotta toss in my 2 cents ...... again. The 30-06 was developed in 1906 not 1903. in 1903 when the springfield 03 rifle was developed it used a 30-03 cartridge. there is a pretty good article on it at www.chuckhawks.com/30-06.htm
if you can stand to shoot a 12 guage with buckshot or slugs, you won't have any trouble with the '06. Some of my reason for prefering the .30-06 is nastalgia. It was our WWI weapon. and was used by our forces in WWII also. It was used by our snipers until being replaced by the .308 . it's an awesome round. First designed as a man killer it has effectively been used to kill just about every type of land creature on planet earth. While I wouldn't hunt Grizzley with it, I know that many have, and they lived to tell about it.
David
if you can stand to shoot a 12 guage with buckshot or slugs, you won't have any trouble with the '06. Some of my reason for prefering the .30-06 is nastalgia. It was our WWI weapon. and was used by our forces in WWII also. It was used by our snipers until being replaced by the .308 . it's an awesome round. First designed as a man killer it has effectively been used to kill just about every type of land creature on planet earth. While I wouldn't hunt Grizzley with it, I know that many have, and they lived to tell about it.
David
