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eldeguello 07-09-2007 04:51 PM
RE: Military rifles.....
 
ORIGINAL: sonnys

I collect and shoot military rifles..I hunt with a k31 swiss....sweeeeet rifle and very accurate...what military guns do you all collect?
I don't COLLECT military rifles, but over the years I have owned (and used) Swedish Mausers, a Norwegian Krag, a 6.5X50 Japanese Type I (an ItalianMannlicher/Carcano made for the Japs by Mussolini, but chambered for the Japanese service cartridge and having a Mauser 5-round staggered-box magazine), an M1 Garand, a 1903A3 Springfield, a No. 4 SMLE, an M1 Carbine, four military Mausers from Chile,Venezuela, and Mexico (all 7X57mm); an M1891 Mosin-Nagant, a M/N 1891/30, a 1940 Tokarev 7.62X54R semi-auto, two SKS's, and two M 1903 Greek 6.5X54mm Mannlicher Schoenauers. The two best rifles out of this bunch were the Venezuelan M1924/98 7X57mm Mauser (an FN), and the Norwegian Krag. I still have the FN 7X57mm Mauser but not the Krag. I really liked that Krag, however! The Norwegians are much stronger than the U.S. Krags.

Gee, I guess that's it. Total, 19 military rifles. The only one I ever hunted with was the Norwegian Krag. It was deadly on New Mexico mule deer!

That K-31 is an excellent rifle. I may get one some day!

twelch 07-09-2007 05:39 PM
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I only have 2 SKS from the Korean War

younggun308 07-10-2007 12:48 PM
RE: Military rifles.....
 
ORIGINAL: HEAD0001

I would also like to get one of the GEHWER(did I spell that right) in 8mm Mauser.
It's spelled Gewehr, the company was called Sturm-Gewehr.

The Gewehr 43 didn'tfire the8mm Mauser cartridge, it fired the 7.92x57mm Mauser.

Pioneer2 07-10-2007 01:42 PM
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Same cartridge 8mm Mauser and 7.92x57...........................Harold

harter66 07-10-2007 05:35 PM
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98/22 chech mauser, 6.5 carcano, 03-a3,model12. Mauser has a wear ring on the muzzle from the bayonet. No personal kills the 03' shoots very nicely though .

Briman 07-11-2007 03:23 PM
RE: Military rifles.....
 
I buy whatever I can get cheap or simply have a need for...
In my current collection there are approximately 30 military rifles:

Swiss K-31s
Swedish M96s
Swdish M41B
Swedish 94/14 carbine
M1 garand
4 different models of Mosin Nagant
US Model 03A3
K98s
3 different models of enfields
Czech 98/22, 98/29, VZ-24
M95 Steyr-Mannlicher
Yugo M48
SKS

It took me awhile to warm up to the K-31s but the more I shoot them, the more I like them.

That K-31 is an excellent rifle. I may get one some day!
I would hurry up and get one while they are still relativelycheap. They have really caught on hard in the last 2 years or so and are getting harder to find from wholesalers. You won't regret it, they are as good as the swedish mausers if not better

eldeguello 07-12-2007 09:58 AM
RE: Military rifles.....
 
ORIGINAL: younggun308

ORIGINAL: HEAD0001

I would also like to get one of the GEHWER(did I spell that right) in 8mm Mauser.
It's spelled Gewehr, the company was called Sturm-Gewehr.

The Gewehr 43 didn'tfire the8mm Mauser cartridge, it fired the 7.92x57mm Mauser.
Auf Deutsch, "Sturm-Gewehr" means, literally, "Storm Rifle", or "assault rifle". "Gewehr" is German for "rifle". There was never a company called Sturm Gewehr! The StG 44 (aka MP 44) used the 7.92X33 Kurtz cartridge, a shortened version of the full-rifle size 7.92X57JS cartridge (AKA 8mm Mauser)!

The StG 44, so named by Herr Schikelgruber (aka that sunnabitch A. Hitler) himself, was the first intermediate-caliber "assault rifle" issued to troops. The AK 47 was next, (1947) using the 7.62X39mm round, which was A CASE OF PARALLEL DEVELOPMENT, having been developed by the Soviets around thesame time as the Germans came up with the 7.92X33mm.

Contrary to popular opinion in this country, the Soviet 7.62X39mm isNOT a Russian copy of the German development. The Russianswere working on assault rifles betweenWWI and WWII, Simonov (designer of the SKS) having developed oneof his own that used the 6.5X50mm Arisaka round - it was the shortest, lightest cartridge he could find at the time. They developed the 7.62X39mmround because the 7.62X25mm Tokarev pistol round, used by millions of Soviet assault troops in the PPSh-series of submachine guns, was not powerful enough for battelfield use. (Worse than our .30 Carbine round!!)

After they designed the 7.62X39mm sometime in 1943, it was first used in Simonov'sSKS after WWII ended. But the SKS is not a true assault rifle-the StG44 and AK 47 are!

younggun308 07-12-2007 10:50 AM
RE: Military rifles.....
 
I stand corrected and more learned.....

geterdun2 07-13-2007 12:06 PM
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does anyone have any pics? that be pretty cool

eldeguello 07-14-2007 06:05 AM
RE: Military rifles.....
 
ORIGINAL: eldeguello

ORIGINAL: younggun308

ORIGINAL: HEAD0001

I would also like to get one of the GEHWER(did I spell that right) in 8mm Mauser.
It's spelled Gewehr, the company was called Sturm-Gewehr.

The Gewehr 43 didn'tfire the8mm Mauser cartridge, it fired the 7.92x57mm Mauser.
Auf Deutsch, "Sturm-Gewehr" means, literally, "Storm Rifle", or "assault rifle". "Gewehr" is German for "rifle". There was never a company called Sturm Gewehr! The StG 44 (aka MP 44) used the 7.92X33 Kurtz cartridge, a shortened version of the full-rifle size 7.92X57JS cartridge (AKA 8mm Mauser)!

The StG 44, so named by Herr Schikelgruber (aka that sunnabitch A. Hitler) himself, was the first intermediate-caliber "assault rifle" issued to troops. The AK 47 was next, (1947) using the 7.62X39mm round, which was A CASE OF PARALLEL DEVELOPMENT, having been developed by the Soviets around thesame time as the Germans came up with the 7.92X33mm.

Contrary to popular opinion in this country, the Soviet 7.62X39mm isNOT a Russian copy of the German development. The Russianswere working on assault rifles betweenWWI and WWII, Simonov (designer of the SKS) having developed oneof his own that used the 6.5X50mm Arisaka round - it was the shortest, lightest cartridge he could find at the time. They developed the 7.62X39mmround because the 7.62X25mm Tokarev pistol round, used by millions of Soviet assault troops in the PPSh-series of submachine guns, was not powerful enough for battelfield use. (Worse than our .30 Carbine round!!)

After they designed the 7.62X39mm sometime in 1943, it was first used in Simonov'sSKS after WWII ended. But the SKS is not a true assault rifle-the StG44 and AK 47 are!
I was wrong about the development of the 6.5X50mm experimental rifle in the Soviet Union. It was done by Fedorov and Tokarev, NOT Simonov! And it happened much earlier, right around the end of WWI!

Sorry!


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