Limbsaver recoil pad?
 

Does anyone use one of these? I am going to be doing quite a bit of shooting this summer and was wondering if my shoulder would thank me If I got one. How well do they work? thank you

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Yes, get one: the best $30 you'll ever spend! My .30-'06 came with one from the factory, my buddy's had a plastic butt plate. Absolutely no comparison in recoil when shooting them side-by-side.

There are enough other brands out there that your head can spin pretty quickly if you want to try to compare them all. I can assure you, though, that the Sims works, and works well.

Good luck,

FC

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put one on my inline muzzleloader and the first time i fired the rifle i thought it misfired because i didnt notice the kick. Also put one on my dads sidelock muzzleloader and he loves it.

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My .338 ultra mag had a hard rubber pad on it when I bought it.I could sit down and shoot a box of shells and it would begin to hurt to the point thatI would want to quit. I really had to concentrate on shooting after a box of cartridges.

I installed a grind to fit Simms pad and the pain has disappeared completely from that rifle. You still have to mount the rifle properly so you don't scope yourself because the rifle will still move rearwardlike normalbut that simms pad absorbes the "slap" has taken all the pain from my shoulder. Shooting a box or three is no problem at all.

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Get one and dont look back...

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How do the Sims compare to the pachmyr decelerators?

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my bro has a pachmyr decelerator on his .270 Its junk compaired to the limbsavers.

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Works great. Turned the 270 into a 30-30

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When I first got my .270 I shot a box through it in one sitting and felt like I had been bested in a fight. I went and got one of the slip on Sims and haven't looked back. I doubt I'll ever take it off. The extra 3/4" or so of length makes it a bit more comfy for me, too, since I have monkey arms.

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Good grief, get one!!!!!
My grandpa put one on his Winchester Model 70 XTR in 30-06, and that thing used to kick so bad before, but he put the LimbSaver, and the thing's a plinker!

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Good Night, Pachymyr, is crap! That's what my grandpa used to have on his gun!

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I put one on my early 870 (Before the R-3) slug gun and it works really great.

Redneck Bill

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I put one on my Ruger No. 1 .45/70 in which I was shooting a 400-grain bullet at 2270 FPS, with 58 foot-pounds of recoil. It sure helped take SOME of the bite out of it vs the Ruger factory pad (actually more of a hard rubber buttplate than a recoil pad). However, when shooting from a bench rest, I STILL have to loop the index finger of my left hand over the barrel to keep the gun from completely jumping off the sandbag! Maybe I should Magna-port it.....

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They work and are worth the investment IMHO!!

FWIWI have more Pachmayr Decels installed then limbsavers so don't agree with they're junk statements. They also work and IME are more durable plushave some benefits over the limbsaver. Living in CanadaI wear a lot of fleece outer wear and the limbsaver grips it where as Pachmayr's do not. Also loading tight sabots,especially cold days,with my inlines I prefer the Decels. So when it comes to strictly hunting I actually prefer the Pachmayr Decel, for my usage. The Sims product is softer no doubt but that doesn't mean it is better to/for all;).

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I want some of that crack your smokin, you DID NOT get those kinda numbers out of a 45-70, you can throw any powder/primer combo at me you like, I don't think you got that kinda speed. That is riding on the heels of the 416 Rigby!

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Huh? Man, there's no way the 45-70 can do that, heck, the 45-70 is just a big fat lumbering piece of lead, very effective, no doubt, but it in no way achieves that velocity!

Maybe you mistyped? You say you shoot a .416 Rigby pretty often, maybe that's what you meant? The 45-70 has that much recoil? I thought it had more like 40 lbs of recoil.

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No mistype - for you nay-sayers, here's the load: 60 grainsRE 7,400 grain Barnes Original .458" semispitzer (BC .389),Remington cases, Fed 210 primers.

Now, if you don't believe a Ruger No. 1 .45/70 will break 2200 FPS comfortablywith this load, hey! It's any freeborn American citizen's right to form his/her own opinion. Even if it is wrong! (I don't know what you Canuck's rights are, if any!) But I like folks better when they bother to find out the facts for themselves before forming an unalterable viewpoint.

(BTW, if ANY you decide to try that load, work upto it gently from at least 20% below, and only using a sufficiently strong rifle - NO MARLINS PLEASE!!! I'd hate for any of you geniuses to lose your head........)

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Not really! You must consider two major factors: The .416 Rigby (factory ammo) operates at around 35-40,000 PSI. It fires a smaller-diameter bullet than the .45/70, so presents a significantly smaller area for thegases to push against. If you load a .416 Rigby up to 50,000 CUP, like my .45/70 load, the Rigbywill achieve over 2500 FPS with the 400-grain bullet - maybe even 2600 if you use a slow enough powder.

I have no idea what the actual pressure of my load is. It does "iron out" the cases, but so far, the primer pockets HAVE REMAINED THE SAME SIZE. I have loaded a couple batches of cases five times, so the load is safe. But it sure does a number on your shoulder! No, this load is NOT for trapdoor Springfields or for Marlins either!

RE: Limbsaver recoil pad?
 

pachmyrs and limb savers are very similar to me. my limbsavers have developed fine rubber cracks. maybe too soft rubber? just pick one and get back to shooting. neither is as big improvement as getting a boss system or porting done to the barrel. to me adding weight is the most effect way to reduce recoil. i have a new england firearms 10 guage. they have the heavy steel bar stuck in the buttstock. very fun gun with mild recoil for its size!

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i agree with the rifle weight. I always see people looking for the lightest weight rifle because they prefer to go light weight VS get into shape. Then they have the nerve to complain about the recoil! My rifle weighs just a little over 8lbs and over 9lbs with a scope.

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I have used both pachmyrs and limbsavers on my rifles. At the range I don't notice much difference but at the range I am also using a shoulder impact pad (really helps). Limbsavers are made from a softer rubber and stiffen up quite a bit when you are hunting very cold weather. During hunting season recoil has never been an option. I've taken many deer over the years using a .303 and the brass butt plate never was felt (then again sometimes I was wearing so many lavers of clothes I felt like the little kid in Christmas Story).

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I agree. I've never felt recoil when shooting at game, no matter what the caliber or weight of the rifle was! However, I do recall seeing where bullets kicked up dust downrange after going THROUGH the game........ but such recollections areSILENT movies - never heard the shot, either!

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eldequello.......

Looking at that load you posted made me look up some loads in some of my manuals.


Hodgdon's "modern high pressure" load for the 45-70 for a 400 gr list 37.0 as staring and 40.0 gr as max using Reloader 7

Using the same manual for the 458 Win Mag they list 64.0 gr as a starting load and 67.0 gr as a maximum load using R-7.


Hornady Manual....

loads for the 45-70 in a Ruger#1

350 gr bullet starting load is 44.8 and max load is 55.5

***note*** the lighter bullet weight and the max for it


Now the 458 Win Mag and 350 gr bullet is as follows min with R-7 is 61.4 gr and max is 69.1



next would be using Nosler data for modern strong actions, the test rifle is again a #1

They only list a 300gr bullet but it's maximum load of Reloader 7 is53.0 grains.

and of course a handloader knows that with increase of bullet weight, the maximum charges will also be decrease


So with that said, you are way over any published loads I have seen but it's your nose peering over the cartridge rim on that #1.
I would certainly like to know what kind of pressure that load is running.

Just goes to show folks that they had better look in trusted published data before seeing one on the net and using them.

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Thanks guys. I guess I'll try one out.

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"So with that said, you are way over any published loads I have seen but it's your nose peering over the cartridge rim on that #1.
I would certainly like to know what kind of pressure that load is running.
Just goes to show folks that they had better look in trusted published data before seeing one on the net and using them."

You are absolutely correct, especially about the danger involved in using any load in any gun inwhich that load was not specifically developed. Please note, I am NOT suggesting or recommending that anyone else try this load, especially not without the traditional work-up procedure we all go through for safety!!!

This load, and similar ones I developed years ago were all experiments under controlled loading conditions, and I used several of these rounds to see how much better the Limbsaver pad was vs the Ruger pad on the rifle I own that has the worst recoil!

The RE-7 load that I worked up in that Ruger No. 1 was done around 1982, using the RE-7 powder that was available then, (Hercules) and were I to use RE 7 again, I would go through the work-up procedure again, since the powder company is no longer Hercules, and I have no idea what TODAY'S RE 7 is like! This load was worked up AFTER I worked up a load using IMR 3031 with the same velocity goal in mind. I was never able to get as much performance out of 3031 before space in the case ran out.

When I worked up that load, I loaded 100 rounds of it, and have some of it left even today, as its' recoil is relatively horrendous, you can imagine I don't shoot many rounds of it-just enough to verify that the zero has not changed.

The load I use themost in my .45/70 is the old-time Keith load of 53 grains of IMR 3031 with the400-grain Speer flatnose.

I too would like to know what the pressure is. I know it is significant, as the cases do not come out of the rifle looking unfired, as some of the mild factory loads do! But as I mentioned, there is NO PRIMER POCKET STRETCHING that you can feel when seating a new primer,and to me, that is the first reliable sign that a reduction in thepowder charge is required.

Here's a group shot at 100 yards with that load. It's about as good as I can do resting the rifle on my left hand with my left index finger looped over the barrel to hold it on the bench......

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I'll give another thumbs up for the simms.