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.:SCOPE:EYE:. 04-03-2007 06:28 PM

compition round
 
i want to start shooting comppetivly...yes i know ya gatta be good...but ya have 2 start somewhere dont ya...anyways what is the best caliber for shooting, i want a cheap round and have good groups 200+ yards...what gun would you recomend?

.:SCOPE:EYE:. 04-03-2007 06:29 PM

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my bad for spelling competition wrong :(

Rammer 04-03-2007 06:54 PM

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What kind of competition are you talking about? No one here will be able to answer your question correctly. Your best bet is to find your local gunclub an see what kind of shooting goes on there, those guys will tell you what you will need to get.

Maine Shooter 04-03-2007 07:31 PM

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Gotta know what aspect of competitive shooting. Also cheap to shoot isn't really a deciding factor. If you're gonna shoot competitively, you'll needing to reload to tweak the best loads. Also, the gun and optics won't likely be on the cheap side either. It's a sport where money can play a part if you're wanting to really compete.

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uncle matt 04-03-2007 09:54 PM

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200 yards? That's simple. Here's what all the guys in the know are using. It is also used by special secret forces all over the world to covertly eliminate high intrest targets.



:eek:

Retaks 04-04-2007 04:30 AM

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You need to find out what kind of shooting your going to be doing and dont expect it to be cheap for competitions. I have a .204 Ruger that shoots consitant .5 in groups at 100 yards (with factory ammo)and i barely get top 10 in the tournaments at the gun range i go to. That gun with scope and everything done to it was right around $3500. Then i got a long range rifle in .338 Laupua Mag and just dont have time to reload for it so i dont know how well i could shoot.

doubleA 04-04-2007 05:27 AM

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Uncle Matt....Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeet rifle ya have there, I notice the recoil pad on it,what caliber is that thing? It looks like it might kick a bit due to being synthetic and a light contour barrel.


Retaks....I just got a Sako TRG in 338 Lapua and look forward to shooting it. What rifle is your Lapua in?

lowtempguru 04-04-2007 06:03 AM

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Uncle Matt, I too noticed the recoil pad.. have you considered getting the barrel ported or an aftermarket BOSS system installed to help tame that recoil?

Scope Eye, Its interesting you ask about which cailber is best for competition after an earlierpost where youask for barrel break in advice on your "New Savage" What caliber did you buy?

I didnt know that Savage made air rifles

Retaks 04-04-2007 06:44 AM

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I also have a Sako TRG 42. My mom got it for me for Christmas this past year.

uncle matt 04-04-2007 07:40 AM

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Double A - good eye you have there. You too might want to get one of these bad boyz and try your hand at cumpetitvly shooting. That is a custom one-off 3 stage recoil designed for me by the Navy Seals armorer. The material it is constructed of is classified.

low temp - you too are one of the sharper knives in the drawer! I have experimented with several different porting systems, but after chronoing each I found I had lost a bit of velocity and I will not tolerate that. I did fit a BOSS type system to a barrel as an experiment but the muzzle blast kept blowing it off. I even tried welding it on but I believe that the extreme muzzle flash was vaporizing the weld and it would then blow off on the very next shot.

[:-]


Rammer 04-04-2007 08:09 AM

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LOL - This is getting goood! :D

lowtempguru 04-04-2007 09:08 AM

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Uncle matt, Have you tried A-dapting a Super Soaker to fit the underside of the barrel to help cool that pesky weld on your boss? Perhaps something similarto the way40mm grenade launchers can be mounted under barrel on a M16? Maybe you could freeze the pellets before firing them?Just a couplethoughts.. Did you have to tweak and adjust the boss a lot before you were shooting sub MOA groups of pellets at 60, 80 and 150 yards?

TROPHYHUNTER25 04-04-2007 10:32 AM

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compatiton shooting isn't cheap no mater what way you cut it

Nanook85 04-04-2007 10:41 AM

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.22 lr cheap and accurate depending on your gun.

Funny you should mention the recoil pad, my pellet rifle has more recoil than my .22....

uncle matt 04-04-2007 05:05 PM

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low temp - you have some good ideas and I may just assign you a position on my technical advisory board. Although your super soaker idea is good in theory, as I though also, when I tried firing the beast and doing a make shift water quench.............it cause some distortion in the barrel material and an extreme amount of steam. The steam which blew in my lead technical assistant's face and caused great burns.

After my tech asst got out of the burn ward and completed therapy, we moved our experiment to a hybredceramic weld which although it has shown great promise- is QUITE cost prohibitive. We will look further into developing this technology after we start recieving this year's grant funds.

More later

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.:SCOPE:EYE:. 04-04-2007 06:23 PM

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lol u guys made my day......yea i should invest in one of those super soakers...i hear there AMAZING all the way out 2 ten yards.....o0o0 and that gun..woa that is sexxi...i hear thats the WOC by all the top shooters.. and hey if i wasnt here.. WHO WOULD YOU ALL MAKE FUN OF?:D:D:D:D:D:D

.:SCOPE:EYE:. 04-04-2007 06:24 PM

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o00o that savage is a 30-06 its my all around gun :)

.:SCOPE:EYE:. 04-04-2007 06:28 PM

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o00o0 from the other post....i already bought the 30-06 like 3 weeks ago....i shot like 25 rounds threw it...i thought i put in there asking about weather to break it in, after i already shot not knowing, guess i dint only thought it :(...and im planing on getting a new job so thats why i wanted to spend some $....b.c shooting rocks :) and hey ya gatta start somewhere right?

.:SCOPE:EYE:. 04-04-2007 06:32 PM

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Funny you should mention the recoil pad, my pellet rifle has more recoil than my .22....
its not that you bb gun has more or less recoil its that the direction of the recoil, pellet guns have forward and reverse recoils which make the shooter preceive them differnlty...i have had to buy ever mount under the sun and still my scope kreeeps back...its a real pain

700bdl870exp 04-04-2007 06:40 PM

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.:SCOPE:EYE:.I think a good place for you to start would be about third grade English to learn grammar and spelling. As far as the scope "kreeeeping" back, there are scope stops out there made especially for pellet guns.

700bdl870exp 04-04-2007 06:41 PM

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or should i say highly accurized shooting iron

lowtempguru 04-04-2007 06:46 PM

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Uncle Matt I am flattered by the job offer, PM meso we can discuss mysalary requirements. While the ceramic weld might work, Igot tothinking, I have a bunch of R-12 and R-502 in cylinders in my shed, Perhaps we could come up with a copper jacket for the barrel and the boss fill it with liquid refrigerant to cool the barrel, Something along the lines of the old water cooled Maxim guns of WW1. I think the refrigerant would cool that barrel and the boss very satisfactory for your needs, The only concerns I can see at this time are 1. the EPA might take a dim view of our refrigerant usage, and 2. damage to the ozone in the areas you would be hunting in. The only other option I can think ofis to cyrogenically dip the barrel in liquid nitrogen before each shot, The advantage to this method is obvous, With liquid nitrogen on hand you can save any animals or birds shot with the boss fitted air rifle so they can be brought back to life sometime in the future. Thus saving you the hassle of going out and looking for new targets, When you wanted to hunt in the future you could just thaw something...

jeepkid 04-04-2007 06:54 PM

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ORIGINAL: lowtempguru

Uncle Matt I am flattered by the job offer, PM meso we can discuss mysalary requirements. While the ceramic weld might work, Igot tothinking, I have a bunch of R-12 and R-502 in cylinders in my shed, Perhaps we could come up with a copper jacket for the barrel and the boss fill it with liquid refrigerant to cool the barrel, Something along the lines of the old water cooled Maxim guns of WW1. I think the refrigerant would cool that barrel and the boss very satisfactory for your needs, The only concerns I can see at this time are 1. the EPA might take a dim view of our refrigerant usage, and 2. damage to the ozone in the areas you would be hunting in. The only other option I can think ofis to cyrogenically dip the barrel in liquid nitrogen before each shot, The advantage to this method is obvous, With liquid nitrogen on hand you can save any animals or birds shot with the boss fitted air rifle so they can be brought back to life sometime in the future. Thus saving you the hassle of going out and looking for new targets, When you wanted to hunt in the future you could just thaw something...



.:SCOPE:EYE:. 04-04-2007 07:17 PM

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not ganna lie u 2 are amazingly funny[8D][8D]

cascadedad 04-04-2007 07:34 PM

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If you guys aren't careful, someones gunna put an eye out!

AJ52 04-04-2007 11:02 PM

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