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Wal-mart guns?
Yay or nay? I know that on many of their upper end electronics, you're not getting the same product you would get if you went to a store like Circuit City. Is such the case with their firearms also?
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Their firearms are no different than you would buy at a gunshop. They don't have the selcetion though. Personally, I'd go to a gunshop an make buds with the owner an buy from them before Wally World.
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Wow! Here we go again...:eek: Do you really think the manufacturers would chnace the liability of roducing a lesser grade firearm just for one particular chain? With the exception of thier "exclusives" Walmart gets thier firearms from the same distributors the local gunshop does. They simply have the price point worked out better because of thir volume buying.
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Personally, I'd go to a gunshop an make buds with the owner an buy from them before Wally World I know that on many of their upper end electronics, you're not getting the same product you would get if you went to a store like Circuit City |
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ORIGINAL: Maine Shooter Wow! Here we go again...:eek: Do you really think the manufacturers would chnace the liability of roducing a lesser grade firearm just for one particular chain? With the exception of thier "exclusives" Walmart gets thier firearms from the same distributors the local gunshop does. They simply have the price point worked out better because of thir volume buying. That being said, you will find suits at WalMart, but you won't find an Armani. You will findcookware at WalMart, but you won't findCalphalon,Viking, Wustoff, or Henckels. You will find dress shoes at WalMart, but you won't find $500 Italianhand-sewn leather ones. When acompany's credo is, "We sell for LESS!", then you won't expect to find the top-end of any product line there. So while you'll find the SPS models of the Remington 700, you're less likely to find theCDL models, because they cost much more. And while you'll find the < $50 Bushnell scopes there, they don't often carry the 4200 Elite models. So, if you like the model that WalMart has in stock, and it meets your needs, and you have some trust in the manufacturer, then go ahead & buy it. But if you'd like to compare WalMart's offerings against the manufactuers higher-end models, you'll have to go somewhere else. I've bought a gun from WalMart once. I like the gun - it works great. But now I prefer to buy elsewhere. |
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Walmart can also custom order almost any firearm you want. They have a book you can look at and order from. You are limited to just what they have in stock. At least they used to be that way, they are changing a lot of things relating to hunting and firearms.
That being said I would still suggest getting a gun from a local gun shop. Especially if you have any questions. They will mostly likely know a lot more than the kid or girl behind the counter at wally world. It might cost you a bit more, but in the end it will probably be worth it. Paul |
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"Walmart can also custom order almost any firearm you want. They have a book you can look at and order from. You are limited to just what they have in stock. At least they used to be that way, they are changing a lot of things relating to hunting and firearms."
The ones here are still that way. Got a Ruger No.1 on order as we speak. |
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I like to support independent gun stores when I can. I know they are in business for only one thing, to sell firearms and related equipment. That means they're 100% vested in gun rights. I don't mind paying a little extra to support them. The only problem I have with some (not all) of the gun stores I've gone into is the poor customer service. When buying ammo I've been ignored until I practically stepped behind the counter and helped myself, and I was the only one in the store at the time. I expect that kind ofreception in Wal-Mart, but not when I'm paying premium prices. Luckily I have found a couple of gun stores that have good customer service.
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ORIGINAL: aluminumshooter I like to support independent gun stores when I can. I know they are in business for only one thing, to sell firearms and related equipment. That means they're 100% vested in gun rights. I don't mind paying a little extra to support them. |
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I always get my guns from Walmart. They have a special order book that I look everytime I go.
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ORIGINAL: Maine Shooter ORIGINAL: aluminumshooter I like to support independent gun stores when I can. I know they are in business for only one thing, to sell firearms and related equipment. That means they're 100% vested in gun rights. I don't mind paying a little extra to support them. I personally HATE walmart! |
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ORIGINAL: wyotimberghost Yay or nay? I know that on many of their upper end electronics, you're not getting the same product you would get if you went to a store like Circuit City. Is such the case with their firearms also? |
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Just went to my local walmart last night, no more guns in the cases. Which is sort of stupid since they just remodeled the place and put the new display cases in? They are filled with ammo and other crap now. I was just in a week or so ago and they had a full line of rifles and shotguns?
They are still selling hunting stuff and ammo though (not much however), just didn't see any guns anymore. I didn't ask either. They quit selling archery stuff a few years back as well. We have so many good pro shops in my area it really didn't matter. Paul |
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Well, I remember when Sears, K-Mart, Montgomery Wards, Sports Unlimited, Jumbo Sports and others in my area use to sell guns. I have 15 WalMarts-Marts in a 25 mile area from me and maybe 6 don't sell guns anymore.
We have Sonny's Gun Shop, Roberts, Ken-Fix, Graingers, and a few more gun shop's in the immediate area. I usually go to 20 miles to the next county and go to Guns Galore. So really, if Wal-Mart stops selling guns in my area, No Sweat! |
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A LOCALE GUN DEALER WERE I LIVE TRIED TO TELL ME WAL-MART GUNS WERE CHEAPER MADE. I SAY B.S. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE ME BELIEVE A GUN MAKER IS GOING TO PUT THEIR REPUTION ON THE LINE TO SELL TROUGH WAL-MART IF SO WHY IN GOD'S GREEN EARTH WOULD THEY GIVE THE SOME WARRANTY FOR A PIECE OF CRAP. GUN DEALER'S WANT YOU TO BELIEVE THAT IN HOPE YOU WILL BUY THE SOME MODULE FROM THEM FOR A HUNDRED DOLLARS MORE. SO IN THE END A REMINGTON IS A REMINGTON AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
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If you ever notice, Wal Mart will sell you just about anything that you want. One thing I noticed was that even with scopes, it does not have the same model number as the ones in a good gun shop.
The reason for that is because it was made for Wal Mart. Wal Mart does not want you to buy a scope at a yard sale and then take it back to Wal Mart and tell the customer service person that you bought it there last week and lost the slip and now you want a refund. So that is how they keep items on stock as exclusives. The Bushnell scopes I saw there I would not put on any gun I own and the BSA Cats Eye and other garbage scopes are even worse. As for Remington, I will put it to you like this. Any customer that places a order of X amount of dollars gets a wholesale price. Now if you are dealing with Wal Mart, that is not good enough. They tell Remington that we only want to pay X amount of dollars for this gun and X amount of dollars for that gun - and oh by the way - we want 100,000 of them. Any company that is in buisness will tell you that yes it is nice to have a large order to keep you in buisness, but when the customer wants to under cut all your other customers, then you have to decide on how you are going to handle the situation. Their solution is that the goodrifles and semi auto shotgunsgoes to the regular customers that are paying a higher price and the lower end guns - seconds if you will - goes to Wal Mart. When arifle goes through the line and it does not shoot as well as the others, but does go bang and hits the target. They put it on a pallet and sells it to Wal Mart to be sent to one of their stores. When the customers only goal is to save money and quality is not a issue - the Wal Mart gun will work just fine. When the customer is looking for accuracy, the customercomes back and cry's and complain's and send's it back to the factory. The factory shoots therifle and tells the customer that it is within factory specifications and everything is ok. Only they do not tell the customer that within factory specifications is 3 inches at 100 yards. So as long as it hits a paper plate at 100 yards it is ok. The customer gets disgruntled and swears that he will never buy a new Remington gun ever again and the company looses a sale. Hopefully the new owners of Remington will stop all this nonsense and just quit sellingrifles to Wal Mart. |
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I don't think you will have the opportunity to buy guns at wallyworld for long. My local store remodeled and did away with their guns. The guy told me that eventually all wal-mart stores will be gun-free. He said the company will deny it publicly, but has begun slowly phasing out firearms completely.
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Bought a lot a guns from Wal-mart, no problems to speak of except for the people behind the counter that does not know anything about them:eek:
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ORIGINAL: The Rifleman If you ever notice, Wal Mart will sell you just about anything that you want. One thing I noticed was that even with scopes, it does not have the same model number as the ones in a good gun shop. The reason for that is because it was made for Wal Mart. Wal Mart does not want you to buy a scope at a yard sale and then take it back to Wal Mart and tell the customer service person that you bought it there last week and lost the slip and now you want a refund. So that is how they keep items on stock as exclusives. The Bushnell scopes I saw there I would not put on any gun I own and the BSA Cats Eye and other garbage scopes are even worse. As for Remington, I will put it to you like this. Any customer that places a order of X amount of dollars gets a wholesale price. Now if you are dealing with Wal Mart, that is not good enough. They tell Remington that we only want to pay X amount of dollars for this gun and X amount of dollars for that gun - and oh by the way - we want 100,000 of them. Any company that is in buisness will tell you that yes it is nice to have a large order to keep you in buisness, but when the customer wants to under cut all your other customers, then you have to decide on how you are going to handle the situation. Their solution is that the goodrifles and semi auto shotgunsgoes to the regular customers that are paying a higher price and the lower end guns - seconds if you will - goes to Wal Mart. When arifle goes through the line and it does not shoot as well as the others, but does go bang and hits the target. They put it on a pallet and sells it to Wal Mart to be sent to one of their stores. When the customers only goal is to save money and quality is not a issue - the Wal Mart gun will work just fine. When the customer is looking for accuracy, the customercomes back and cry's and complain's and send's it back to the factory. The factory shoots therifle and tells the customer that it is within factory specifications and everything is ok. Only they do not tell the customer that within factory specifications is 3 inches at 100 yards. So as long as it hits a paper plate at 100 yards it is ok. The customer gets disgruntled and swears that he will never buy a new Remington gun ever again and the company looses a sale. Hopefully the new owners of Remington will stop all this nonsense and just quit sellingrifles to Wal Mart. |
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"When arifle goes through the line and it does not shoot as well as the others, but does go bang and hits the target.
They put it on a pallet and sells it to Wal Mart to be sent to one of their stores." Myth. Can you pleaseexplain why my horrible new bought at Wal-Mart Second Grade Remington 700 in .223 fired a 3/8 inch3 shot group right out of the box? Every group in over 40 rounds went into less than .75 inches at 100 yards. |
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WalMart must have accidently gotten one of the good ones... :D
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ORIGINAL: The Rifleman If you ever notice, Wal Mart will sell you just about anything that you want. One thing I noticed was that even with scopes, it does not have the same model number as the ones in a good gun shop. The reason for that is because it was made for Wal Mart. Wal Mart does not want you to buy a scope at a yard sale and then take it back to Wal Mart and tell the customer service person that you bought it there last week and lost the slip and now you want a refund. So that is how they keep items on stock as exclusives. The Bushnell scopes I saw there I would not put on any gun I own and the BSA Cats Eye and other garbage scopes are even worse. As for Remington, I will put it to you like this. Any customer that places a order of X amount of dollars gets a wholesale price. Now if you are dealing with Wal Mart, that is not good enough. They tell Remington that we only want to pay X amount of dollars for this gun and X amount of dollars for that gun - and oh by the way - we want 100,000 of them. Any company that is in buisness will tell you that yes it is nice to have a large order to keep you in buisness, but when the customer wants to under cut all your other customers, then you have to decide on how you are going to handle the situation. Their solution is that the goodrifles and semi auto shotgunsgoes to the regular customers that are paying a higher price and the lower end guns - seconds if you will - goes to Wal Mart. When arifle goes through the line and it does not shoot as well as the others, but does go bang and hits the target. They put it on a pallet and sells it to Wal Mart to be sent to one of their stores. When the customers only goal is to save money and quality is not a issue - the Wal Mart gun will work just fine. When the customer is looking for accuracy, the customercomes back and cry's and complain's and send's it back to the factory. The factory shoots therifle and tells the customer that it is within factory specifications and everything is ok. Only they do not tell the customer that within factory specifications is 3 inches at 100 yards. So as long as it hits a paper plate at 100 yards it is ok. The customer gets disgruntled and swears that he will never buy a new Remington gun ever again and the company looses a sale. Hopefully the new owners of Remington will stop all this nonsense and just quit sellingrifles to Wal Mart. That one of the biggest lines of BS I've ever read......:eek: |
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ORIGINAL: The Rifleman Their solution is that the goodrifles and semi auto shotgunsgoes to the regular customers that are paying a higher price and the lower end guns - seconds if you will - goes to Wal Mart. When arifle goes through the line and it does not shoot as well as the others, but does go bang and hits the target. They put it on a pallet and sells it to Wal Mart to be sent to one of their stores. When the customers only goal is to save money and quality is not a issue - the Wal Mart gun will work just fine. When the customer is looking for accuracy, the customercomes back and cry's and complain's and send's it back to the factory. The factory shoots therifle and tells the customer that it is within factory specifications and everything is ok. Only they do not tell the customer that within factory specifications is 3 inches at 100 yards. So as long as it hits a paper plate at 100 yards it is ok. The customer gets disgruntled and swears that he will never buy a new Remington gun ever again and the company looses a sale. I have talked to remington via Email on this very subject before. They were very upset someone told me walmart carried inferior or second hand guns. They even wanted to know the name of the gun shop that told me this. They assured me that guns at any store, be it cabela's, walmart, Kmart or a local gunstore are of the same quality, period. They simply can not afford to put out a bad product. Especially to a retailer that sells that much product. Oh, and the BSA Catseye scopes are actually pretty decent for the money. I would put them up there with a simmons aetec. They cost about as much as well. Their cheaper scopes are pretty junky though. Not that I would put a catseye on a 1,000 dollar high powered rifle and take it to africa though. Paul |
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I've heard several local gunshop owners tell customers "Walmart can sell them cheaper because they are seconds". One local "expert" even told me how his buddy was a Walmart manager and told him about all the scratch and dent guns that Walmart sells. Of course this is all pure b.s. spread by gunshops trying to justify their higher prices.
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When arifle goes through the line and it does not shoot as well as the others, but does go bang and hits the target. They put it on a pallet and sells it to Wal Mart to be sent to one of their stores. |
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there no diffrent
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ORIGINAL: sjsfire ORIGINAL: The Rifleman If you ever notice, Wal Mart will sell you just about anything that you want. One thing I noticed was that even with scopes, it does not have the same model number as the ones in a good gun shop. The reason for that is because it was made for Wal Mart. Wal Mart does not want you to buy a scope at a yard sale and then take it back to Wal Mart and tell the customer service person that you bought it there last week and lost the slip and now you want a refund. So that is how they keep items on stock as exclusives. The Bushnell scopes I saw there I would not put on any gun I own and the BSA Cats Eye and other garbage scopes are even worse. As for Remington, I will put it to you like this. Any customer that places a order of X amount of dollars gets a wholesale price. Now if you are dealing with Wal Mart, that is not good enough. They tell Remington that we only want to pay X amount of dollars for this gun and X amount of dollars for that gun - and oh by the way - we want 100,000 of them. Any company that is in buisness will tell you that yes it is nice to have a large order to keep you in buisness, but when the customer wants to under cut all your other customers, then you have to decide on how you are going to handle the situation. Their solution is that the goodrifles and semi auto shotgunsgoes to the regular customers that are paying a higher price and the lower end guns - seconds if you will - goes to Wal Mart. When arifle goes through the line and it does not shoot as well as the others, but does go bang and hits the target. They put it on a pallet and sells it to Wal Mart to be sent to one of their stores. When the customers only goal is to save money and quality is not a issue - the Wal Mart gun will work just fine. When the customer is looking for accuracy, the customercomes back and cry's and complain's and send's it back to the factory. The factory shoots therifle and tells the customer that it is within factory specifications and everything is ok. Only they do not tell the customer that within factory specifications is 3 inches at 100 yards. So as long as it hits a paper plate at 100 yards it is ok. The customer gets disgruntled and swears that he will never buy a new Remington gun ever again and the company looses a sale. Hopefully the new owners of Remington will stop all this nonsense and just quit sellingrifles to Wal Mart. That one of the biggest lines of BS I've ever read......:eek: |
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They're guns are fine, I think they have too many Weatherbys and too few Remingtons or Brownings, and that's probably because they need to have "Always Low Prices" and of course, they buy guns that are at low prices anyway.
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I think the origins of this myth are probably various clowns who can't shoot worth a cr@p, who go to the range once a year and can't hit the targets, and then say "Yeah, well, it's probably because I bought this lousy rifle at WalMart..."
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Never bought a firearm from WallyWorld,Never will!
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