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how does a poor kid aford a good scope....i look everywhere for a 4-16x scope and cant find one under $200 that is a name brand...it would go on a 300 win mag or 30-06 idk if i wil get a pakage but i hope there isnt all **** scopes i can afford.... HELP?...i want dependablilty but is that posible in this price range?

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This is March. Hunting season doesn't open until the fall. Save your money and buy yourself a good scope. Zeiss Conquest 4.5-14 scopes run about $600 and are the best glass for the money in my opinion.

I have used a Tasco 4-16, and I can assure you that the Conquest will give you 30 min+/- more shooting time in the morning and evening.

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how far and what are ya shooting?? a 4-16 could be overkill. after having bad expiriences with a cheap scope(costing me and causing me to wound and loose deer that year) i will never put cheap scopes on anything important that recoils. i was in the same situtation. think i was 14 or so. i cut grass all summer. saved up 150-200$ and bought me a barely used leupold vari X II 3-9x40. im lucky to know a gunshop owner...and i can tell him what i want and he will find it for a fair price. he buys alot of used guns...and people often times dont know what glass like leupolds fetch and ask for a cheap price...so he takes the good glass off the rifle and sells them seperately. told him what i was looking for and he found one. perfect condition..not a mark on it. works great. after loosing 2 deer and completely missing one i learned glass it too important to skimp on. you dont neccesarily need a 1200$ scope...i wont bash manufacturers..but will just say i wont buy cheap scopes again..

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Look for a deal on a good used scope.
Many people do not lap rings and when they mount the scope they put marks on the scope. When that scope gets sold the pirce is lower because of the marks and Burris or Leupold will still warranty it

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You might try e-bay. Older used scopes are often sold pretty reeasonably, and there are several types that are OK. Older U.S. made Weavers, Lyman All-Americans, older Redfileds, and even older Leupolds might do what you want. But I don't know about the magnification range. You might have to settle for a measly 3X-9X.

I personally use 6X fixed-power scopes on my big-game rifles except for the big-bore (.375, .416, and .45's) DANGEROUS GAME rifles.I use Leupold Compact 2.5X fixed-power or 1.5-5X variable scopes on those.

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Good advice from all. All I can say is rethink your rig and make sure you need the extra magnification. It can be nice to have at a long distance rifle range, but even competition shooters don't always go for that kind of power. Or snipers, for that matter. And in the field, you won't have much field of vision when you're cranked up to 16x.

I shoot my .30-06 to 200 yards fairly regularly, and never move the scope from 4x. I killed two deer at 140-150 yards within a matter of afewseconds last season because I picked up the other deer as it was about to run as soon as I looked through the scope. If it were on 9x, I doubt I could've taken two that day.

Also, check out Simmons.

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What is it with everyone and "overkill". I just put a Leupold Mk4 6.5-20x50mm on a 300 Win Mag... Is this overkill?

I can use the lowest setting 6.5 for close shots, and if given the opportunity for a longer shot I can go up in magnification, and dial for elevation. Still learning the windage, that is more difficult.

Point is I only expect 1 shot at a deer, then 1 shot at an elk... maybe a followup, but the rest of the year I can target practice and shooting at 100 starts to get old. I have been practicing out to 300-400 and realize that I could hit the killzone at that range easily.

Some use a 243 and others use bigger, me as I shoot a 7 Mag and a 300 WM. I dont think there is such a thing as overkill, dead is dead is dead.

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You should read JagMagMan's thread in the Optics section before buying a Simmons.

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Ha ha, one goes out and makes some money!

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"I personally use 6X fixed-power scopes on my big-game rifles except for the big-bore (.375, .416, and .45's) DANGEROUS GAME rifles.I use Leupold Compact 2.5X fixed-power or 1.5-5X variable scopes on those."

Totally agree with you.Many of my rifles have fixedsix power scopes.Six power is enough for the deer and hogs that i hunt. With my 6X scoped .30-06 i have killed coyotes out to 375 yards. The last scope that i bought is a 6X42 FXIII from Leupold. It isan excellentlow light scope.

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HUH?

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i plan on going out 2 or 3 times a year...but the "overkill" is for the shooting range.... i like shooting alot but thats a problem...i cna aford 1 gun and i figured 300 win mag to drop anything in its path and its capible of long distance shooting

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Here's a very good scope for the money for $250:
http://www.brunoshooters.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=BSS&Pro duct_Code=WEO800473&Category_Code=35WVGS

Weaver makes an excellent scope, 3.5-10 would be plenty for a 300 mag.
If you insist on higher magnification you will have to pay more, its just the way the cookie crumbles buddy. Checks and balances... You want a good, reliable scope it will cost. You want a good, reliable scope, with higher magnification it will cost more.

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IMO Burris makes a good scope for the money. They offer the Fullfield in a 4.5-14X and 6.5-20X. You should be able to pick one of these up on Ebay or at a gun shop at a reasonable cost. If you decide on one, get one with the ballistic-plex reticle.

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I just got a Natchez SS catalog that had Bushnell Elite 4200's for $184.95 in 3-9x40. Nikon Monarchs were on closeout for $209.95 in the same size.

Name brands? Check!
Excellent Glass? Check!
Dependability? Check!
< $200? Check!
4-16x? Nope.

So, is the 4-16xworth another $100 to $200 (or even more)? If you're able to find a place that has these scopes and any 4-16x scopes for the same price, line 'em all up against one another around twilight, & see if your eyes prefer superior glass and mechanicals, or higher magnification.

To put it into perspective, these are scopes that will hang punch-for-punch with a VXIII, which no one seems to want to sell any cheaper than $469. These are both outstanding values. I've gotta think that these prices are going to put some huge pressure on the 3200 & Banner lines for Bushnell,as well asthe Buckmaster and ProStaff lines of Nikon. The price jumps have become awfully modest when you talk about the level of quality you're getting when you step up.

FWIW, I spent $400 on a Zeiss Conquest only 2 months ago. However, if I could have had the Bushnell 4200 for only $184.95 at that time,it would have been awfully hard to pass up. It's really a great time to be a scope shopper!

FC

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my most recent optic purchase was a 4x12x40mm Pentax and i love it. best scope i have ever owned. it is brighter and clearer than Leupold vxI and II's. i haven't looked through the vxIII's yet to compare them. i only paid around $200 for it

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Hmmm..... seems we share a lot of opinions on guns & such like.......

"What is it with everyone and "overkill". I just put a Leupold Mk4 6.5-20x50mm on a 300 Win Mag... Is this overkill?

As to "overkill", this post reminds me of our old saying in interior Alaska: "You can always tell a tenderfoot by the size of his knife!" If you ran across some guy with a 2-foot Bowie knife on his belt, he was a invariably a Cheechako. I have observed that MOST HUNTERS with a variable scope on their rifles almost alwaysleave itset at around 4X, AND RARELY ever change the power setting in the presence of a game animal! For all intents and purposes, they'd be served just as well with a fixed-power 4X or6X scope....

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go here swfsa.com

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I highly recommend you stay away from swfa. They really screwed me over recently on an order. I waited for over one month, and finally canceled and got what I need from natchez supply.

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I think you can still find a Nikon Buckmaster 3X9 - 40mm for $200.