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klu408 02-17-2007 10:47 PM

need advice on caliber
 
I was wandering which would be better for deer hunting .308 or .300win. mag.? What Im looking for the most is for flat shooting and knockdown power!

handloader1 02-17-2007 10:59 PM

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The .300 Win. Mag. has more power, and shoots flatter. The .300 Win. Mag. would be a good all aroundcartridge for North America. Good luck.

skeeter 7MM 02-17-2007 11:34 PM

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Deer don't require either to be knocked down. Anything 1/4 bore (.257cal) up will work just fine.

Big difference between the 2 you mentioned and seeing you said deer only I really don't see the need for a 300wm! While it is flatter/faster also comes with a price for this performance in more recoil, muzzle blast and cost to shoot.So of the 2 mentioned I'd say the 308 win if deer only is the application. If you may hunt elk or moose then the 300wm has merit.

For what you've mentioned deer/flat/fast may I suggest you considerthe.277 cal(270 win or 270 wsm). Still considered one of the best deer calibers ever invented. For that matter one of the more underratted is the 25-06, a very lethal varmit/deer cartridge that will take game further then most shooter will ever consider shooting it. Just my 2 pennys worth.;)

Best of Luck

DANTHEHUNTER 02-18-2007 01:29 AM

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If you are going to shoot alot after or before season get the .308 . If you plan on hunting elk ,moose or bear get the .300wm.Both are great for deer.

okboarhunter 02-18-2007 04:47 AM

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.300!!!! MY DAD HAS ONE AND LOVES IT!


I HAVE A 270 THOUGH AND ITS BADASS TO!!! SEEN HIM DROP FULL SPEED RUNNIN ANIMALS ,AND A DEER DROPPED AT436 YARDS


BUT ALSO SEEN MY DAD SHOOTIN AT A COYOTE AT800 YARDS WITH A 300 MAGhittin at there feet though BOTH BADASS THOUGH

younggun308 02-18-2007 07:35 AM

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If you're just hunting deer, get a .308.

If you're also planning, and will hunt elk, the .300 Win. Mag. would be good, but a .308 180 grain will take down an elk for sure.

So, the .308 150 grainFederal Powershoks cost just $10.97, and they make great practice rounds, and they are alsogoodfor taking deer and varmits.

jeepkid 02-18-2007 08:45 AM

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ORIGINAL: skeeter 7MM

Deer don't require either to be knocked down. Anything 1/4 bore (.257cal) up will work just fine.

Big difference between the 2 you mentioned and seeing you said deer only I really don't see the need for a 300wm! While it is flatter/faster also comes with a price for this performance in more recoil, muzzle blast and cost to shoot.So of the 2 mentioned I'd say the 308 win if deer only is the application. If you may hunt elk or moose then the 300wm has merit.

For what you've mentioned deer/flat/fast may I suggest you considerthe.277 cal(270 win or 270 wsm). Still considered one of the best deer calibers ever invented. For that matter one of the more underratted is the 25-06, a very lethal varmit/deer cartridge that will take game further then most shooter will ever consider shooting it. Just my 2 pennys worth.;)

Best of Luck
A .243 will work just fine too.;)

Maine Shooter 02-18-2007 09:43 AM

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Not to be picky, but you're not requesting advice on caliber but rather the chambering. Caliber is the bulet diameter, or size of the actual projectile. .308 Winchester and .300 WM are cartridges and I do believe are the same caliber.

klu408 02-18-2007 11:08 AM

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The most important thing to me is that I want to take the guesswork out of a 300 plus yard shot! I want to know which caliber would drop the least at distance,or if there is enough difference between the 2. Thanks

jeepkid 02-18-2007 11:13 AM

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.300 Win Mag or .300 Ultra Mag.

bd chambers 02-18-2007 03:15 PM

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Do your self a real bg favor, 300 weatherby mag. enough said:eek:

matters 02-18-2007 03:42 PM

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I love .30 calibers they all seem to kill great. But the .300 win mag is my favorite. A old 30-06 makes a great deer gun to.

Roskoe 02-18-2007 03:44 PM

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Were you referring to the .308 Winchester or the .308 Norma? There is a world of difference. Roskoe

younggun308 02-18-2007 03:44 PM

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ORIGINAL: klu408

The most important thing to me is that I want to take the guesswork out of a 300 plus yard shot! I want to know which caliber would drop the least at distance,or if there is enough difference between the 2. Thanks

The .300 Win. Mag drops somewhere in the vicinity of 5 inches, I think at 300 yards, and a .308 drops 7.5 inches.

klu408 02-18-2007 06:12 PM

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I was talking about the .308 win. Is there a better load than my 2 choices? I just like the knockdown power of the .300 win but want the least amount of bullet drop. Tnaks guys for all the replies!!!

M77man 02-18-2007 06:28 PM

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ORIGINAL: handloader1

The .300 Win. Mag. has more power, and shoots flatter. The .300 Win. Mag. would be a good all aroundcartridge for North America. Good luck.
I somewhat agree with that but I am getting a 7mm-08 for the deer up north here in Michigan and keeping my 7 Mag for bigger game. I don't plan on hunting Grizzlie or Brownie but I know my 7 Mag can get the job done. And before you say it, I will carry mace for the event that I ever stumble upon one. Maybe even a side arm ; - ).

thndrchiken 02-18-2007 07:17 PM

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It's semantics, the 308 win will take the same game as the 300 winmag only do it slower. It's like the age old debate 300 winmag or 30-06.

skeeter 7MM 02-18-2007 09:54 PM

RE: need advice on caliber
 

ORIGINAL: klu408

I was talking about the .308 win. Is there a better load than my 2 choices? I just like the knockdown power of the .300 win but want the least amount of bullet drop. Tnaks guys for all the replies!!!
Appears your taken with the 300wm. Nothing wrong with that it is a fine cartridgethatwill do everything your asking and much more.Yes itshoots faster/flatter then the 308win.


jeepkid 02-18-2007 09:58 PM

RE: need advice on caliber
 

ORIGINAL: klu408

I was talking about the .308 win. Is there a better load than my 2 choices? I just like the knockdown power of the .300 win but want the least amount of bullet drop. Tnaks guys for all the replies!!!
30-378 Weatherby, or the .300 Remington Ultra Mag. Or if you have the cash, a Lazzeroni Warbird. ;)

snedd162 02-19-2007 03:23 PM

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.300 win

Rebel Hog 02-19-2007 04:06 PM

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If you're looking for flat shooting and enough power to kill up toMoose, go with 6.5mmSwede with Norma "Alaska" 156gr ammo!:)Nuff Said!

zrexpilot 02-19-2007 07:32 PM

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ORIGINAL: Rebel Hog

If you're looking for flat shooting and enough power to kill up toMoose, go with 6.5mmSwede with Norma "Alaska" 156gr ammo!:)Nuff Said!
Are you kidding ? everyone in the other thread said it was a ground hog gun. ;)

ipscshooter 02-19-2007 09:23 PM

RE: need advice on caliber
 

ORIGINAL: klu408

I was talking about the .308 win. Is there a better load than my 2 choices? I just like the knockdown power of the .300 win but want the least amount of bullet drop. Tnaks guys for all the replies!!!
Based on your initial question about .308 and .300WM, and which has more power and is flatter shooting, I suspect that you don't have a lot of experience with rifles. Do you have any experience at all? What rifles do you currently own?

If you don't have any, or don't have much, experience, I'd really have a hard time recommending a Magnum for your purposes and I'd question your suggestion that you're planning on 300 yard + shots. Generally speaking magnums aren't a good choice for someone who doesn't have some shooting experience under his belt. Likewise for long shots. Those are for someone who has had a lot of experience/practice. And, practice is going to be a lot easier and a lot more fun with a .308 than with a .300 Win Mag. And, out to about 350 or 400 yards, a .308 is going to kill deer just as efficiently as a .300 WM.

deer_handler 02-19-2007 10:52 PM

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Wanna be men pick the largest caliber. Real men choose a gun that gets the job done with less damage. To hunt deer with anything larger than a7mm tells me someone has an ego problem. 6mm up to7mm is more than enough gun to drop a deer. Unless you can't hit where you are aiming.Then no gun is ever big enough. 300 = waiste of money and shows you got an ego problem by bragging I got a 300. I can do what a 300 does with my 280 if not better. It's because I mastered it and know what I can make it do. Really think about it. What is a 300 goanna do better than a smaller caliber. Nothing in the right hands.

Rebel Hog 02-19-2007 11:06 PM

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ORIGINAL: ipscshooter


ORIGINAL: klu408

I was talking about the .308 win. Is there a better load than my 2 choices? I just like the knockdown power of the .300 win but want the least amount of bullet drop. Tnaks guys for all the replies!!!
Based on your initial question about .308 and .300WM, and which has more power and is flatter shooting, I suspect that you don't have a lot of experience with rifles. Do you have any experience at all? What rifles do you currently own?

If you don't have any, or don't have much, experience, I'd really have a hard time recommending a Magnum for your purposes and I'd question your suggestion that you're planning on 300 yard + shots. Generally speaking magnums aren't a good choice for someone who doesn't have some shooting experience under his belt. Likewise for long shots. Those are for someone who has had a lot of experience/practice. And, practice is going to be a lot easier and a lot more fun with a .308 than with a .300 Win Mag. And, out to about 350 or 400 yards, a .308 is going to kill deer just as efficiently as a .300 WM.
Preach it brother!;)

eldeguello 02-20-2007 07:27 AM

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Looking for the most speed & power in a .30 caliber? Try the .300/.378 Weatherby.........

In three years of traipsing through the wilderness of Alaska carrying a .270 Winchester carbine, all the "hunting experts" I came across said "why are you carrying that varmint rifle??"

Whenever I killed a bear, caribou or moose with it, they all would say "well, a bear (moose, etc.) is nothing but a VARMINT!!"

jakal3932 02-20-2007 05:36 PM

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I don't want to repeat what everyone here has already said, but... You really don't need a 300WM for deer. The 308 will work really well. As a matter of fact, you don't need a 308 to knock down a deer.I like em though so that is my choice.

coloradoprohunter 02-20-2007 07:39 PM

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.300 WINCHESTER MAGNUM!

ipscshooter 02-21-2007 11:42 AM

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I still think it's rather silly to be recommending a Magnum to someone who pretty obviously doesn't have much experience with firearms.

battensp 02-21-2007 02:11 PM

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308 or 300 win mag.......Jesus they must be some pretty big deer. The 308 is one of those calibers where you say how does it work...huge bullet in a medium casing, whats funny is it has very promising down range characteristics...if you ever reload...that bullet has quite a few sweet spots. The magnum has a pretty good advantge in some ways, its an extremely fast shooter for its size category and its flight character cant really be rivaled but by a few calibers. You really dont need that much to kill a white tail......anything above a 7mm in my opinion is a compensation of power vs skill. Hell I seen a guy take out a monster 10 pointer @270 yrds full tilt with a 220 swift, but what do I know i'm just a squirrel trying to get a nut

bigbulls 02-21-2007 02:30 PM

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Based on your initial question about .308 and .300WM, and which has more power and is flatter shooting, I suspect that you don't have a lot of experience with rifles. Do you have any experience at all? What rifles do you currently own?

If you don't have any, or don't have much, experience, I'd really have a hard time recommending a Magnum for your purposes and I'd question your suggestion that you're planning on 300 yard + shots. Generally speaking magnums aren't a good choice for someone who doesn't have some shooting experience under his belt. Likewise for long shots. Those are for someone who has had a lot of experience/practice. And, practice is going to be a lot easier and a lot more fun with a .308 than with a .300 Win Mag. And, out to about 350 or 400 yards, a .308 is going to kill deer just as efficiently as a .300 WM.
I can't believe it took thre pages before someone asked this.

No to be picking but someone that is asking which one is flatter shooting between the .308 and 300 and which one has the most "knock down power" (no such thing BTW)obviously doesn't have much experience shooting rifles and really doesn't need to be taking 300+ yard shots on anything but paper especially with a magnum cartridge.

I suggest something along the lines of a 7mm-08, .270 Winchester, .308 Winchester, 25-06, etc... prefering the .270 then the 7mm-08.



hinkleid 02-21-2007 11:53 PM

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ORIGINAL: coloradoprohunter

.300 WINCHESTER MAGNUM!
300 Win Mag!!!

klu408 02-24-2007 03:59 AM

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I have a ruger m77 in .300 wm and a 30-30 marlin and several other guns and have shot the .300 for aboout 4 years and have ( in my opinion a good bit of experiance) the reason I was asking for everyones advice is that Im about to buy a thompson pro hunter and my buddy is telling me that a .308 is better than my .300 and I just wanted someone elses opinion! Thanks

kilotanker19 03-02-2007 06:11 AM

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as far as the trajectory goes drop is always predictable. flat trajectory is over rated. i am military and we use 7.62x51 (308) with 200 grain sierra match bulltes for 1000 plus. 308 is all anyone ever needs for deer. although .300 mag is an excellent choice. you will not be disapointed with .308. heavy bullets are slower but also more accurate. go with .308 190 grain berger vld. " just my opinion, it has never let me down."

Tony Orlando and Dawn 03-02-2007 06:28 AM

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I hunted deer for years with a 300 Win. Mag., but anymore it's a .308 I carry when I go out. The .308 is accurate, mild of recoil and available in short actioned lighter rifles.


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