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anyone do the whole turkey shoot thing?? im not talkin live turkeys...im talkin generally shooting at a paper with a dot or crosshair on it...closest BB to the dot or cross hair center wins the prize. generally held at sportsmans clubs and such. the shooting is always about 20yds i believe. the real kicker is you cannot bring your own ammo. if i could bring my own ammo id bring my heavy shot and go home with a ton of ham and turkeys becasue i would rip the targets in half at 20yds with hevi shot.

im convinced they shoot reloads with a REALLY light load. ive tried a couple diffrent guns. can never do very well. its truely ALL luck. this spring i do wanna pattern my turkey gun with light loads and see just how bad they pattern or if the shoots are REALLY set up to be luck. just amazes me that 6 or 7 1/2 shot patterns so badly..hevi shot 6s pattern amazingly and its a fairly light load for a turkey load so though im missing a bunch of shot its not THAT much.

anyone know anything about these kinds of shoots?? anyway to up the odds?? noone does any better then the next guy it seems. just all luck of that one bb that gets the closest...anyone got any ideas or anything? besides sneak in hevi shot loads:D i dont wanna win a ham or turkey bad enough to cheat...i just think it would be fun to be pretty competative. ive won atleast once every one ive been too..but out of 20 or so rounds your bound to get lucky. pretty bad i pay 20+$ for a afternoon of sittin around a gun club to win one little 8lb "young turkey" lol

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There is some luck involved,mostly a matter of equipment tho. backbore,swage choke or really tight choke tube,and more precise aiming will help.

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i still swear they take out almost all the shot! im going to test some junk loads when i pattern the gun this season.

whats a swage choke? i shoot with my undertaker turkey choke or factory remington turkey choke...both are about the same with their loads....

i think aiming definently would help. i try hard every time but lining up 2 beads is like saying a hope and a prayer when aiming at such a small target. the last one i went to a guy with a scope ran the table..our targets almost always made the final cut..he beat me nearly every time.

it would just gimme somethin to do in the winter months and make it more worth going lol. im not a guy that likes to rely 100% on luck.

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:)Mauser06 go to www.turkeyshoot.net

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I used to go to one every year put on by a FFA group at a local high school. I know they used factory loads because they got a good price from a local guy that could order them. They used Winchester 7 1/2's. I used the Remington X-Full in my 870 and brought home my share of turkeys. Then as the advancementwith chokes started to change I seen guys show up with extended choketube on shotguns with scopes. It got to where guys were taking home 10 or more turkeys so I kinda laid off going, haven't been to one in years.

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When I was in college I worked at a chrome plating and machine shop. We had an old timer there that could sleeve an entire barrel as "slick as a whistle"-his words. He would then polish the inside, and when he was done you could never tell it by looking at it. Turkey shoots are popular here in the hills of WV. And you better be careful. Very few play by the rules. Tom.

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thanx tommy i actually found a few sites a little while ago..

head..what are sleeved barrels?? i read about them a little bit ago but dont know what they are...

i polished the inside of my barrel...should probably do it again soon since i been shootin hevi shot from it..i havent looked at it but i had it like a mirror..

they are popular here..every gun club has them...but ive yet to see anyone have overly amazing patterns..like id have with my hevishot. most have a guy hand you a shell when its your round and watch you pretty closely. they never said anything about rules except use that shell they gave you...i swear they are tampered with! id really like to crack one open and see..next time i go im going to have to see if the shells match the boxes they come out of...but i think they dont even keep them in boxes...maybe i need to find legit turkey shoots lol...

after doing some reading seems there are some guys that are REALLY into it...i havent seen anyone like that around here..

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Basically it turns the entire barrel into one long tapered choke. constriction is spread out over the length of the barrel so the angle is less acute. less bouncing of shot off of each other, so therefore a denser pattern. Tom.

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Pure Gold makes the card cutter choke specifically for turkey shoots.

Its not all luck, a lot of it is equipment and knowing exactly where your gun will shoot.

Most of the time our firehouse uses Remington STS #9s.

Hey, if I could roll my own, I'd load up 2 1/4oz of #12 shot and let it eat!

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thanx head..that sounds logical...not that ill be having it done..i dont want turkeys or hams that bad! lol

Swampcollie..ill look into the chokes..i know theres gotta be something that will shoot better then a hope and a prayer. im just surprised my turkey gun doesnt throw better patterns with light loads...i had my targets from the last place i went to but i think i threw them out..but it was basically a hope and a prayer...not too many BBs on the paper(maybe 5x8 with a crosshair in the center) just gettin lucky and gettin one to land realllly close to the crosshair...closer then the other guys atleast..at the short ranges i am REALLY surprised that my turkey choke doesnt do its job when i know my hevi shot loads would rip the paper in half..flight control wads i could shoot the wad through the crosshair.

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I used to do rhem every weekend when i lived in Alabama. I got a Super Full Turkey Choke for my Mossberg and had rifles sights put on it. We couldnt use any type of sight other then normal shotgun sights or rifle sights. I would always win atleast one thing. The shot they gave us was just the cheap 100 round box of skeet load from Wal-Mart.

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Mauser...I go to one for $$$ and attend weekly. Some shoots approach $500 for the winner of a single shoot. There are a lot of things you can do. Only rules we have are 36" barrel or less and .670 choke min. Most of us even shoot scopes. (It's 105' off-hand shooting) The normal beads on a shotgun cover up the paper at that distance.

I shoot a Rem 1100 that I bought a 36" grooved hastings barrel for. (Already back-bored) and I put a .670 choke in it. I also topped the gun with a 4X single dot Unertl Hawk scope.

It wins as many shoots as any other I've seen...and I've been around a few.

The smaller the choke doesn't necessarily mean a smaller pattern. A buddy I shoot with shoots a .680 choke that blows his .670 out of the water. It's dependant on the gun.

Many will say it's luck...and there is some luck involved. BUT, the same guys seem to do 90% of the winning in our league.

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wow...500$s a shot! whats the round fees and how many shooters??? the one i been to a couple times is a dollar or something a shot i believe. we do have a few money rounds..but i think in the end youd win 20-30$ or something. usually 20-30 shooters depending on the day. im considering buying a cardshooter choke. after i confirm the ammo IS NOT tampered with. then scoping my gun(been wanting to scope it anyways) then i can go around to all the shoots...shoot the money round..and have a part time job every sunday by takin guy's money at the shoot:D next time i go(maybe next sunday if i got time..) im going to check out the shells and everyones guns. ive never noticed anyone with a serious lookin gun. or serious lookin targets. i may take my mossberg 500 with a 28 inch barrel and the full spectrum of chokes..as well as my 28-30 inch mod barreled winchester 50. maybe one of my other shotguns i havent tried will shoot good. maybbbbbe ill set up the 500 just for turkey shoots..its already drilled and tapped. i can put a scope on it easy..i dont want turkeys and hams and kilbasi..i want the money! lol. wonder if i can find any BIG real competative shoots..stead of guys gettin drunk at the gun clubs that i deal with now.

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Mauser...that's $500 to the winner. It's at a local legion, and it costs $55 for each of the 10 entries. The legion keeps $50 from the big shoots. That makes up their costs for shells, targets and times.

They have some meat shoots, but their popular shoot is the $90. Each guy pays $10, and the winner gets $100 for that shoot.

They use the AA # 7 1/2 shot ammo.

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Most turkey shoot guns are sleeved and back bored.There was an old man near me who used to make them for people.My best turkey shoot gun is a Winchester model 37 red letter .where it locks up is model 37 it has a Winchester model 12 chamber.Then 36" of barrel(looks like water pipe).This one is .639 .Shoots 9s awesome does not like 8s very much.As far as improving your odds you can run a swab through your barrel coated with vasoline it is good for one shot ,But thats cheating.You can lightly bite all of the way around your shell to get it almost open then spit in it .This is not cheating.One of the best factory guns is a Reminton 1100 ,2 3/4 with a 30" full chokebarrel most of these I have ever seen worked well at the shoots.I sometimes go to super shoots in Richmond Va. They shoot 60" barrels and scopes these shoots are for $10,000.Some of our local shoots vary in the rules a stock class gun must be able to stick a 20 gauge shell in the end of the barrel.Die hard shooters have some pretty strange rituals in this sport.:D
It's pretty much fun to watch .Luck sometimes has a lot to do with it.I went one time with a 870 special purpose 3" ,28" barrel with a double xtra full turkey ckoke and won 12 out of 13 rounds that night against modified guns.Brought home a truck load of meat .Enough pork to blow a gasket.:D

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There are still several shoots around here, but since I can't compete I don't attend. I used to go often, but when the same few people win every shot, it's like I'm just donating to their pocket book. In my area most shoots are $5.00 per shot, with many for meat and the rest for a portion of the pot. I think they are usually fired at 25-28 yds and with either reloads or new shells and either #8 or #9 shot. At some any gun is allowed and that means several shootoffs to try and detirmin the winner, as some of those guns will just turn the card inside out, and a measurement is not possible.

most turkey shoots shoot at distances between 69-105 feet. some clubs use only one size of shot and then you have the clubs that shoot the three most common turkey shoot shot sizes 7 1/2,8,and 9 shot. the brand of shells depends on how much the club wants to spend my personal favorite brands are federal top gun and rio. there are a few diff. types of classes stock and outlaw. stock is guns that have not been modified. most clubs have limits to the tightness of chokes in stock class some clubs will use a micrometer an others will use a 20 guage shell when they use a 20 gauge shell they will slide it in the end of the barrel if it fits you can shoot it. ive seen clubs with a limit of .685 choke and .740 bore. with the outlaw class anything goes pretty well i dont like outlaw shoots because if you dont have the money to drop into a sleeved gun or a custom sleeved long barrel you dont stand a great chance of winning. some clubs shoots x's or crosshairs. then you have the cards were you win one way or the other or both. one of the cards has a one circle with an x or dot in the center you can win by putting the most bb's in the circle or you can win by getting the closest bb to the x or dot the they have a 2 3/4 - 3in circle that has the same basic principle. hope this helps anyone who reads this.

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I can tell you that the turkey shoots here have rules. No sights just beads, they have bore measures milled to the bore(20 gauge diameter for 12) and back bore (and they will check it win or lose(there is a line to check all guns before you buy your chit), once checked all guns will stay on the rack until the round is over, 12 gauge and under...No 10's, max length 32 inchs, Shells will be supplied by the club, they will be 9 or 8 shot (all the same per match straight out of the box), all guns are to be factory spec, all cards are judged by three non-shooters on a number only basis, judgments are final.

Given these restrictions I have found that my browning in 3&1/2 12 blows those cards up. Last shoot I brought home 6 of 12 prizes for the day (would have been 7 but my father-in-law double shot my target so we got disqualified). I won't shoot for money cause I don't want them to disqualify my gun. Last year alone I paid for the cost of the gun in grocery's and can't wait to do it again this year.