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Colorado Luckydog 01-28-2007 08:05 AM

Remington 700?
 
I have a rem 700 300 utltra mag that I love 100%. But last year I shot a mulie with it and did a lot of damage. I know I can drop down to a 160 grain, and would still be a little over kill for mule deer, but I'd be okay. I'll be sticking to rem 700 for my next rifle but I'm not sure what cal would be the best. I want the longest, flatest shooting cal I can get that will do the job on yotes, antelope and small deer. I know most of the time shots are not that far but I want the capability to be able to reach out there. I don't have the time or patience to reload so I'll only be shooting factory rounds. I'm more concernedwith theavailability than cost on the ammunition. So, my question to you more qaulified than myself is which cal, 243,25.06,270,308,or other? I know you guys have probably had this conversation a thousand times, but your expertise and advice will be greatly appreciated!!!

Thanks In Advance!!
Bryan

Pawildman 01-28-2007 08:23 AM

RE: Remington 700?
 
Well, the first thing I'd say is that if you change your mind and get into reloading, you could probably stop your problems with the 300 with a different choice of bullet.
I guess for your second question, I would recommend the 25-06 for the applications you stated. All of the calibers you mentioned would probably work well, IMHO the 25-06 is the best of the lot.

geoffh 01-28-2007 08:34 AM

RE: Remington 700?
 
Cut 6 inches off your barrel....

I agree with the .25-06, if you're going after mulies again might opt for .270 for more bullet though

jeepkid 01-28-2007 08:35 AM

RE: Remington 700?
 
I would have to say either the 26-06 or the .270 for long range stuff.

skeeter 7MM 01-28-2007 03:12 PM

RE: Remington 700?
 
2506 will work great and stop any whitetail or mulie deer on the planet. Then again so will your RUM you just need to look at bullet construction for usage.

Colorado Luckydog 01-28-2007 04:46 PM

RE: Remington 700?
 
I'm definitely going to continue using my 300rum for larger game such as elk, bear, caribou, or even moose. I,m just looking for the best caliber for game such as antelope, whitetail, and varmits. I want to be able to reach out there witha fast,flat shooting caliber that won't be such over kill as the 300 rum. I was really considering the 25-06 and it seems that might be a good choice from what some of you are saying. With the25-06, theright scope and a lot of practice whatshould my effective killing range be for the type of game mentioned above?

Thanks Bryan

jeepkid 01-28-2007 05:02 PM

RE: Remington 700?
 
Well actually your .300 RUM is probably one ofthe flattest cartridges you can buy. So you might just think about getting some 120 or 140 grain bullets to use on smaller game.

metau 01-28-2007 06:54 PM

RE: Remington 700?
 
My girlfriend has a 700BDL in 25.06 and she takes coyotes out to about 250yds with handloads and 85gr BT's, and my longest was a little over 350yds on a bobcat that spooked(got lucky). With heavier loads (115-120gr) 250-300 is our limit, but all I can say is it is your call. Only take a shot if you are confident in it and yourself. You're not going to win any 1000yd matches, but it should be fine for those game you mentioned. Hope this helps.

Jerry

shepdogwv 01-28-2007 07:21 PM

RE: Remington 700?
 
I would never discourage someone from buying a new gun, but I just read where Remington is now loading 300 Ultra Mag cartridges in three different types. One supposibly has really light bullets and kicks about as much as a 30-06 and the next one has middle weight bullets and runs about like a 300 Win Mag. It's something you might want to check out.

Colorado Luckydog 01-29-2007 12:29 PM

RE: Remington 700?
 
I went online and actually called Remington today. The smallest grain they make,or plan to make,for the 300 rum is 150grain. Do you guys think 150grain is over kill for whitetail, antelope and varmits? If it is than I need to get the 25-06.

Thanks Bryan

bigbulls 01-29-2007 01:11 PM

RE: Remington 700?
 
Of course it's "overkill" but so is the 25-06. Both are much more cartridge than what is needed to kill deer and smaller animals. But dead is dead. The question is how muc recoil do you want to put up with when shooting these smaller game animals.

My choice would be the .243 long before the 25-06 if for no other reason than ammo availablilty. The .243 is available in more stores and is factory loaded with bullets specifically designed for varmints as well as deer. Much harder to find a varmint bullet in the 25-06.

Highpower 01-29-2007 01:14 PM

RE: Remington 700?
 
Listen to shepdogwv's advice. While at the SHOT show this year, I had a long discussion with the Reminigton folks regarding the 'new' 300RUM loads. Since I also shoot a 300 RUM, I was very interested. The new level 1 load is supposed to duplicate a 30.06 load. Since you are not a reloader and able to play with the loads yourself, I'd give these new loads a try.

skeeter 7MM 01-29-2007 03:52 PM

RE: Remington 700?
 

ORIGINAL: Colorado Luckydog

I went online and actually called Remington today. The smallest grain they make,or plan to make,for the 300 rum is 150grain. Do you guys think 150grain is over kill for whitetail, antelope and varmits? If it is than I need to get the 25-06.

Thanks Bryan
I don't think so but then again faster might not be better in terms of damage concerns?? What bullet did you use to harvest your mulie, what range and shot location? More info you give the more you'll receive.

I hunt with a fella who uses a 300 RUM for everything (not a varmit hunter persaybut if yote presents itself he will shoot). He uses 180gr Nosler Partitions, I haven't seen any problems with this load from antelope to moose!

bigiron 01-29-2007 04:17 PM

RE: Remington 700?
 
Before I started reloading for my 300rum I wasshooting remington 150 grain swift scirocco's and they tore the hell out of the deer,lots of meat damageand would not hold together. I shot a deer at about 100 yards quartering to me and it never came out found the bullet in 2 pieces the jacket completely separated from the lead core. I heard they made the bullets better but dont know I would try the 180 barnes tsx federal loads them. As for a smaller gun 243 or 270 im kinda liking my 243 works great on the deer and yotes.

shepdogwv 01-29-2007 04:53 PM

RE: Remington 700?
 
I've used a 30'06 with 150 grn. bullets (corelock) and while they're not a pea shooter by any means, I would not call them overkill. If those loads do indeed shoot with the same umph as an 06 I would think you'll be fine. The 150 30-06 CoreLoc is a proven preformer on deer, I don't see why it wouldn't be just because there's a little excess capacity in the case it's coming from.

Javabird17 01-30-2007 08:26 AM

RE: Remington 700?
 
25.06 !
270 is a flat shooter

ever consider a 7mm .08 ?

BrutalAttack 01-30-2007 01:33 PM

RE: Remington 700?
 

ORIGINAL: Colorado Luckydog

I have a rem 700 300 utltra mag that I love 100%. But last year I shot a mulie with it and did a lot of damage. I know I can drop down to a 160 grain, and would still be a little over kill for mule deer, but I'd be okay. I'll be sticking to rem 700 for my next rifle but I'm not sure what cal would be the best. I want the longest, flatest shooting cal I can get that will do the job on yotes, antelope and small deer. I know most of the time shots are not that far but I want the capability to be able to reach out there. I don't have the time or patience to reload so I'll only be shooting factory rounds. I'm more concernedwith theavailability than cost on the ammunition. So, my question to you more qaulified than myself is which cal, 243,25.06,270,308,or other? I know you guys have probably had this conversation a thousand times, but your expertise and advice will be greatly appreciated!!!

Thanks In Advance!!
Bryan
270 WSM


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