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johnny_b_goode 01-14-2007 09:53 PM

.270 Win or 30-06 Springfield?
 
Hey y'all. I'm trying to decide on which caliber to choose for my rifle. The rifle I want is the Remington 700 CDL.

But I'm having trouble deiciding on caliber. I've pretty much narrowed it down to two choices: the .270 and the 30-06. The only hunting I'd be using it for would be deer hunting, with distances no longer than 150-175yds. I know that the 30-06 drops significantly more than the .270 at distances approaching 200yds, but I'd rarely be shooting that far. I'm leaning towards the 30-06 because it has much more energy at the 100-150yd range than the .270. I like the idea of having plenty of stopping power, because if my shot is a little off, the deer won't go far at all. I don't so much mind the recoil factor, but I know target shooting would be a literal pain.

Any thoughts?

Pighunter56 01-14-2007 10:22 PM

RE: .270 Win or 30-06 Springfield?
 
Well, both calibers have more then enough energy to take a deer at twice that range, neither is dropping hardly at all, at 100-200 yards. Another thing for consideration, energy doesn't make up for a bad, or less perfect shot, whatever rifle you get, make sure you are good enough with it, to deliver a humane and lethal kill, to whatever you are hunting. A 30-06 in the butt, is as deadly as .270 in the leg. In all honesty, both cartridges will get the job done, for sure, it just depends on how much recoil you want to deal with, which, even then, is a tiny difference between these two cartridges. But, the choice is up to you, if you want to shoot heavier bullets, get the 30-06, if you want to hunt game with lighter bullets, get the .270

Dixie Rebel 01-15-2007 02:33 AM

RE: .270 Win or 30-06 Springfield?
 
Take a very close look at the drop charts. You'll see the 30-06 is a lot flatter shooting than you give it credit for! It is almost indistinquishable from the 270 Win, and frommy experience a better all-around hunting cartridge. In fact, the 30-06 really holds its own even against the magnums.

I'd buy the 30-06 Spfd. The"Grand ole Cartridge".:)

Pighunter56 01-15-2007 02:36 AM

RE: .270 Win or 30-06 Springfield?
 

ORIGINAL: Dixie Rebel
the 30-06 really holds its own even against the magnums.

I'd buy the 30-06 Spfd. The"Grand ole Cartridge".:)
Don't push it, you could make him develope an anti-magnum approach to rifle shooting. Every magnum I've seen, outperforms the 30-06, except for the .22 Mag, and centerfire pistol cartridge magnums.:D

Rebel Hog 01-15-2007 05:46 AM

RE: .270 Win or 30-06 Springfield?
 
You will have more availability on the .30-06 ammo, but I still prefer the .270 w/130grs for Deer.

James B 01-15-2007 06:13 AM

RE: .270 Win or 30-06 Springfield?
 
270 all the way. Perfect for deer.

Jeff Ovington 01-15-2007 06:27 AM

RE: .270 Win or 30-06 Springfield?
 
Go with the one in the middle.....The .280:D:D


cherokee_outfitters 01-15-2007 06:34 AM

RE: .270 Win or 30-06 Springfield?
 
150gr bullets in both yeah maybe close to the same. But I totally disagree if you drop a 130 in a 270 then a 150 in a 30-06 then you have a whole different class of tragectory. One is built for speed the other built for variety. It all depends on what kind of shooter you are and what kind of shots you will take. Long range I'd opt for the 270win, wanting to shoot a variety of bullets and maybe load heavy bullets I'd opt for the 30-06.

eldeguello 01-15-2007 06:53 AM

RE: .270 Win or 30-06 Springfield?
 

ORIGINAL: johnny_b_goode

Hey y'all. I'm trying to decide on which caliber to choose for my rifle. The rifle I want is the Remington 700 CDL.

But I'm having trouble deiciding on caliber. I've pretty much narrowed it down to two choices: the .270 and the 30-06. The only hunting I'd be using it for would be deer hunting, with distances no longer than 150-175yds. I know that the 30-06 drops significantly more than the .270 at distances approaching 200yds, but I'd rarely be shooting that far. I'm leaning towards the 30-06 because it has much more energy at the 100-150yd range than the .270. I like the idea of having plenty of stopping power, because if my shot is a little off, the deer won't go far at all. I don't so much mind the recoil factor, but I know target shooting would be a literal pain.

Any thoughts?
Yes. This debate over which of these two is better has been going on since 1926, when Winchester started chgambering the old Model 54 for it! It will never be resolved!! The truth is, "there's not a dime's worth of difference between them"

!The .30/'06's trajectory is NOT significantly steeper than the .270's if you use the same weight bullet in each. Regardless of WHICH bullet weight you use in either the '06 or the .270, there's no more than 100-200 FPS difference in MV between any of them!

The .30/'06 would provide a slight advantage over the .270 IF you were to hunt elk, moose, or brown/grizzly bear. No advantage at all if all you ever shoot is deer! For shooting deer, the BEST cartridge is the one chambered in the rifle you happen to be carrying at the time you get a shot (except for perhaps the .22 rimfire!)

However, when loaded with good bullets, like the Nosler partition, the .270 will kill ANYNorth American game animal, and most African species as well. And usually with one shot! The .270 has less recoil than the '06, and is very accurate. It is NOT foot-pounds of energy that kills game, it is bullet placement!

For your purposes, the .270 is very adequate. I used a .270 carbine with 20" barrel and a .375 H&H Magnum both for three years while living in Alaska. For some reason, it seemed like every time I got a shot at big game, I was carrying that little carbine loaded with 150-grain Nosler Partition bullets at 2800 FPS MV. That .270 killed everything I shot it at, generallywith one shot.

I did have to shoot a bear with it twice one time, but that was because my first shot was too far back!

demoIL 01-15-2007 06:53 AM

RE: .270 Win or 30-06 Springfield?
 
30.06, very versitle cartridge and ammo is abundant pretty well everywhere..
I have the same gun your talking about, CDL in 30.06.. Not that yours will do the same but I got
lucky and mine was shooting 1/2 in groups with just about any ammo.

Good Luck

early 01-15-2007 06:55 AM

RE: .270 Win or 30-06 Springfield?
 
hamburger/cheese burger

270 + 130gr = long and flat

270 + 150gr = 30-06 + 150 gr....no difference

30-06 + 180gr or bigger leaves the 270 far behind

early

Folically Challenged 01-15-2007 07:41 AM

RE: .270 Win or 30-06 Springfield?
 
I have the CDL in .30-06. I went with that caliber specifically because I wanted to go for elk & moose.If I were to go strictly for deer, however, I'd step down in caliber. Shooting the '06 isn't bad at all, but I can't keep the sight picture in the scope after a shot: I have to reacquire the target.

I was actually perilously close to getting yet another CDL in 7mm-08 right around Christmastime, but I held my breath 'til the urge had passed!

I'd say go for the .270, or even 7mm-08 or .25-06. They'll shoot plenty flat, and have more than enough power to ruin any deer's day. If they're more pleasant to shoot, then that means that they'll be...more pleasant to shoot! Whatever you can shoot lots, and do it comfortably, will be the most deadly caliber.

Oh, by the way, your rifle choice ROCKS! You'll have the sexiest weapon in hunting camp!

FC

johnny_b_goode 01-15-2007 08:49 AM

RE: .270 Win or 30-06 Springfield?
 

ORIGINAL: Folically Challenged

I have the CDL in .30-06. I went with that caliber specifically because I wanted to go for elk & moose.If I were to go strictly for deer, however, I'd step down in caliber. Shooting the '06 isn't bad at all, but I can't keep the sight picture in the scope after a shot: I have to reacquire the target.

I was actually perilously close to getting yet another CDL in 7mm-08 right around Christmastime, but I held my breath 'til the urge had passed!

I'd say go for the .270, or even 7mm-08 or .25-06. They'll shoot plenty flat, and have more than enough power to ruin any deer's day. If they're more pleasant to shoot, then that means that they'll be...more pleasant to shoot! Whatever you can shoot lots, and do it comfortably, will be the most deadly caliber.

Oh, by the way, your rifle choice ROCKS! You'll have the sexiest weapon in hunting camp!

FC
Heck yeah man, I absolutely love the CDL. Classic looks. Everyone's been awful helpful here, and I think I've made up my mind for now at least. I'll prolly go with the .270. Im headed to an outdoor shop to ask them what they think..and drool at the CDL.

Josh the Hunter 01-15-2007 09:26 AM

RE: .270 Win or 30-06 Springfield?
 
Yeah, its kind of hard to go wrong with a .270 for a whitetail gun. I have been interested in the .7mm-08 tho.

semi 01-15-2007 09:57 AM

RE: .270 Win or 30-06 Springfield?
 
7mm-08 is a great choice for deer and i would highly recommend it.

I would go 30.06 in your case. the only reason i say this is, what if you decide to hunt bigger game in the future? the 30.06 can handle heavier bullets and has a greater selection. the 30.06 to me is the all around caliber.

LouisianaHunter 01-15-2007 11:53 AM

RE: .270 Win or 30-06 Springfield?
 
I should be receiving my CDL .270 this week. I ordered it last week and I am having the dealer do the trigger work before I pick it up. He had a CDL in 30-06 on the shelf but I wanted the 270. We checked the trigger on the 30-06, it was set at 6.75 pounds si i figured it was best to get it worked right away.

Leafrivermac 01-15-2007 12:29 PM

RE: .270 Win or 30-06 Springfield?
 
I shot the 06 for yrs with the core lokt. I had absolutly no complaints with it. The last three yrs I've hunted with the 270 and did'nt fare as well using the core lokts with it. I have started using ballistic tips and now I ca'nt find anything to critisize the 270 for. But for some reason I find myself pulling the old 30/30 down more often now as I head out to the deer woods.

270 bdl 01-15-2007 02:47 PM

RE: .270 Win or 30-06 Springfield?
 
Both are excellent choices. The differences on game are almost non existant. I would get the 270 though, but it's my favorite caliber.


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