30-06 recoil
 

I currently have a rifle in.270win and am considering purchasing a rifle in 30-06 Springfield.
My question is if there is much recoil difference between the two.

Thanks,
Copperdog

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On paper yes, in the real world, no.

RE: 30-06 recoil
 

Hello Copperdog. No. Regards, Rick.

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I actually think there is a lot of difference. To mea 30-06 kicks A LOT more then a .270. I think probably about the same as my 7mm Rem Mag.

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In My Opinon, those two calibers are way too similar, I think you should get a 7mm Rem. Mag. instead of a 30-06.

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The total weight of the gun/scope and stock style have a lots of impact on "felt recoil!" A light rifle and lighter cartridge combo can feel as hard as a larger gun/cal. combo!

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I've shot both, and in the guns I've fired, no.

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Not really, just depends on the weight and type of powder charge used in the cartrige. Try firing simple soft points then move up to like an Accubond and you will see what I mean.

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About 17.5 lbs for the 270 and about 20 lb for the 30-06.

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JB, if all things are equal (including bullet weight) a 2.5 lb. differential should not be very noticeable. A lighter weight .270 may have more felt recoil than a heavier '06.
I really can't feel much difference between my lightweight .308 compared to my heavier 7MM RM.

RE: 30-06 recoil
 

Like jagmagman points out a lot has to do with the rifles interms of felt recoil. In comparable rifles you won't notice much of a difference until you start shooting 180 gr and upbullets from the 3006. A goodway to combat this is install a recoil reduction pad like a sims, pachmyer, etc. Some production rifles like remington 700's (R3 they call it)come with such a pad installed.

However since nobody asked I will, why the switch?

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Sheeter 7MM- The switch would be for versatility of heavier bullets if I was to have the chance to hunt bear, elk orcaribou. I will still keep and use my .270 for deer.

Copperdog

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i think at the range you could feel the difference, but when you got the crosshairs on your animal you are about to shoot and the adrenalin is going, you wont feel any difference, they will both feel like a .22LR.
at least for me anyways, i dont even feel the recoil when i am shooting a moose,deer or whatever, im am juat too excited. i shoot a 30-06.

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The threshold is right at 15 lbs. Once your over 15lbs of recoil it's all gravy. Your gonna feel it to some degree. Under 15 lbs you should be able to shoot it all day without a pad. So what if your gun shoots at 17lbs (.270) or at 20 lbs (30-06). Those three lbs should not make a huge diff. If your getting a "deer" rifle I would suggest a 25-06 (14lbs) or 7mm-08 (13lbs). Also, if you don't own one you should seriously think about getting a 30-30 (12lbs). I'm just throwing that one out there for s*&#'s and giggles. It's just a fun gun to shoot. And it will flat out do a number on a deer. It's great to hunt with too.No scope justiron. See all of the deer and it's surroundings as you pull the trigger.I personally wouldn't own more than one of the three 30-06, .308, or .270 just because all three are extremely close matches. Each one with a proper load can do the job of the others. So to get a .308 ora .270 when you own a 30-06 is kinda redundent in my opinion. But that's just me.

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depends on weight ,recoil pads ,stock style, bullet weight ,powder charge.

i own or have owned
rem 700 270, stiff recoil
i had another ,same gun older model got stolen, it had way less recoil.
06,mauser ,very lite recoil
06 rem, auto very lite recoil
06 rem adl,knock the snot outa you.

if you are going to hunt with it recoil won't matter much anyway. i never felt any gun kick with a nice buck in crosshairs.......

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If you are keeping the .270 for deer, why notuse a little more spacing between your calibers for the bigger stuff? My recommendation would be to get one of the new Ruger 77 Hawkeye's chambered in .338 Federal for use on bear and elk. The .270 and .30-06 are too similar, in my mind, to need one of each.

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If you reload, don't sell the 270 short for any NA big Game. Many people don't realize that Nosler makes the Partition in the 160 grain for the 270. This is a long semi-spitzer that penetrates like you wouldn't believe. The SD of that bullet is almost identical to the 200 grain 30 caliber bullet and can safely reach 2850 fps. Thats medicine for elk and big bears. Certainly the match of any non dangerous NA big game. IMO the 30-06 and 270 are interchangeable. Throw in the 280 as well.

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With standard bullet weights, a .270 has about 15 foot pounds of recoil and the 30/06 has about 20. If your "ouch" tolerance for recoil is 18 ft. lbs., then the 30/06 is going to be a kicker. It seems to me that stock design, recoil pad, and gun weight is going to matter more here than caliber. A Ruger model 77 in a 30/06 kicks as hard as many .300 Winchesters. A Weatherby Fibermark in the same caliber is pretty tame.

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Recoil for a .270 with a 130 gr. bullet is ~16.5, with a 150 gr bullet is ~17.0

Recoil for a .30-06 with a 150 gr. bullet is ~17.6, with a 180 gr. bullet is ~20.3

See: http://www.chuckhawks.com/recoil_table.htm

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I've never shot a 270, but I've used the same Winchester 30-06 for a long time( 1969 model 770). You get used to the recoil, no matter what gun you use. I can sit down at the range for a day and go through 40-50 rounds and be a bit sore for a day, but that comes with the caliber. I like the '06, and everything it brings with it.

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I have seen 10yr olds grin from ear to earshooting 30-06s and thenbrag about their bruises later. Never a flinch.

Some people not that way, they need 243 :D

Noreal felt difference between the 270 and 06 in my opinion. To meit seems the270 is sharper and the 30-06 is fuller.

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Chuck Hawks says that the 7mm Remington Magnum actually recoils less than the .30-06!

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That's only partially true. Comparing the same bullet size, 150 grain, the .30-06 recoil is 17.6 and the 7mm Rem Mag is 19.2. I would bet that a 175 gr out of the 7mm Mag recoils more than that 180 grain out of the '06.

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The factors for recoil calculation are:
Bullet gr size
Velocity FPS
Weight of powder charge in grains
Weight of Rifle

Chucks tables aren't an equal comparison as the 7mm rem mag used has a weight of 8.5 vs the 3006 weigh in at 8.0 lbs. Therefore the Energy produced by the 7mm rem mag will be less due to the weight difference. If compared thesame weight gun the 7mm will produce a slightly higher Energy level across the spectrum. Without knowing the data (powder charge)he used it is impossible to say how much difference for but a guessusing an 8lb rifle instead would produce closer to 21 ft/lbs of free recoil energy.

This is whyall thetalk about weight as being something to consider. Fit, style/design, recoil pad, etccontribute to the felt recoil which is an unmeasurable standard by a formula but the portion that effects the shooter the most.

FYI, looked up some data on a 175 gr load and did a quick calculation based on what i have written down.
175gr Nosler partitio
2900 FPS (assumed)
62gr of Powder
8lb rifle

Produces 22.37 ft/lb recoil energy

online recoil calculator if introducedhttp://www.handloads.com/calc/recoil.asp

RE: 30-06 recoil
 

If you use 150-grain bullets at 2900 FPS in your .270, the recoil is the same as a .30/'06 of the same weight shooting a 150-grain bullet at 2900 FPS.

When you start using heavier bullets in the '06. recoil increases accordingly, BUT I find a 180-grain '06 load more pleasant to shoot than the 150 grain load - it is less SUDDEN in its effects!