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RE: barrell cleaning qestions.

I have heard the same thing about mixing bore cleaners. I can tell you that, from years of experience, that using Shooter's Choice in conjunction with Sweet's 7.62 is OK - and I generally use the Shooter's Choice to clean out the Sweet's after it has been in the barrel for 15 minutes or so. Any other combination is rolling the dice, IMO.

RE: barrell cleaning qestions.

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ORIGINAL: Roskoe

I have heard the same thing about mixing bore cleaners. I can tell you that, from years of experience, that using Shooter's Choice in conjunction with Sweet's 7.62 is OK - and I generally use the Shooter's Choice to clean out the Sweet's after it has been in the barrel for 15 minutes or so. Any other combination is rolling the dice, IMO.

I always run 2 to 4 patches through the bore, to get whatever cleaner or solvent, I used, out, before I start using the next solvent. However, never mix solvents in the same barrel.

RE: barrell cleaning qestions.

Borrowed from theriflestore.com

These pictures were taken using a Digital Bore Scope.
They also show and confirm that unless you are using an effective Copper Cleaner / Gun Cleaning Product
and unless you start to look at the four main areas of gun cleaning you will have problems.
We all know that for any firearm to operate reliably and accurately it must be clean.

The picture above shows (lands and grooves) a rifle bore before and after cleaning with KG 1, 12 and 3.
You will note that ALL Copper and Carbon fouling has been completely removed.

The picture above shows (lands and grooves) a rifle bore after cleaning with a common gun cleaning product.
You can see that a large amount of carbon and copper fouling remains.

The picture above shows (lands and grooves) a rifle bore after cleaning with a common bore cleaning product.
You can see that although the carbon has been removed the copper fouling remains.
You can also see that the copper has a greenish tint indicating that the product contains ammonia.

Pictures Taken With A Digital Bore Scope At Weston Park 2005 & At The Workshop
What These Pictures Show & Confirm That Unless You Are Using An Effective Copper Cleaner / Gun Cleaning Products
And Unless You Start To Look At The Four Main Areas Of Gun Cleaning You Will Have Problems.
We Have Tested The Following Solvents And A Lot Of These Remove Little Or No Copper

Sweets 7.62 - Hoppes Bench Rest - Kleen Bore No 10 - Shooters Choice - Barnes CR10
Blue Wonder - Butches Bore Shine - Robla Solo Mil - Outers Nitro Solvent
Hoppes No 9 Powder Solvent - Outers Bore Foam - Hoppes Elite Bore Gel - Hoppes Elite Gun Cleaner - M Pro 7 - Tetra Gun
Forrest Bore Foam - White Spirits - Hoppes No 9 Semi Auto - Parker Hale 009
Phillips Gun Cleaner - Birchwood Casey - Young's 303 - VMS Remover - Montana Xtreme - Knock Out - Bore Tech
Break Free - Gun Slick - Barrel Blaster - AccuBore - T&M Solvent - Napier

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RE: barrell cleaning qestions.

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ORIGINAL: spencer0071

[align=left]Borrowed from theriflestore.com[/align][align=left][/align][align=center][/align][align=center]These pictures were taken using a Digital Bore Scope.
They also show and confirm that unless you are using an effective Copper Cleaner / Gun Cleaning Product
and unless you start to look at the four main areas of gun cleaning you will have problems.
We all know that for any firearm to operate reliably and accurately it must be clean.
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The picture above shows (lands and grooves) a rifle bore before and after cleaning with KG 1, 12 and 3.
You will note that ALL Copper and Carbon fouling has been completely removed.

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The picture above shows (lands and grooves) a rifle bore after cleaning with a common gun cleaning product.
You can see that a large amount of carbon and copper fouling remains.

The picture above shows (lands and grooves) a rifle bore after cleaning with a common bore cleaning product.
You can see that although the carbon has been removed the copper fouling remains.
You can also see that the copper has a greenish tint indicating that the product contains ammonia.[/align][align=center][/align]

[align=center]Pictures Taken With A Digital Bore Scope At Weston Park 2005 & At The Workshop
What These Pictures Show & Confirm That Unless You Are Using An Effective Copper Cleaner / Gun Cleaning Products
And Unless You Start To Look At The Four Main Areas Of Gun Cleaning You Will Have Problems.
We Have Tested The Following Solvents And A Lot Of These Remove Little Or No Copper

Sweets 7.62 - Hoppes Bench Rest - Kleen Bore No 10 - Shooters Choice - Barnes CR10
Blue Wonder - Butches Bore Shine - Robla Solo Mil - Outers Nitro Solvent
Hoppes No 9 Powder Solvent - Outers Bore Foam - Hoppes Elite Bore Gel - Hoppes Elite Gun Cleaner - M Pro 7 - Tetra Gun
Forrest Bore Foam - White Spirits - Hoppes No 9 Semi Auto - Parker Hale 009
Phillips Gun Cleaner - Birchwood Casey - Young's 303 - VMS Remover - Montana Xtreme - Knock Out - Bore Tech
Break Free - Gun Slick - Barrel Blaster - AccuBore - T&M Solvent - Napier
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I don't believe that, what the heck, do they expect us to use? pretty much all of the copper removers I have found to be effective, are on that list.

RE: barrell cleaning qestions.

they are promoting this stuff

http://www.kgcoatings.com/firearms_home.html

RE: barrell cleaning qestions.

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ORIGINAL: spencer0071

they are promoting this stuff

http://www.kgcoatings.com/firearms_home.html

I mean, I'm sure it works good, but, you can do the same thing with theother copper removers.

RE: barrell cleaning qestions.

Has anyone used ED's red bore solvent on thier bores? If so dose it work ?

RE: barrell cleaning qestions.

Saponi, I have heard that works almost as good as Hoppe's No. 9, but, I have never used Ed's Red so I can't give you a first hand experience.

RE: barrell cleaning qestions.

The times I clean my firearms' bores:

-Shooting, even just one bullet.

-Returning from a hunt, even If I haven't shot.

The times I disassemble my firearm for a thorough cleaning:

-Opening day / sighting in day.

-Ending of the season.

Some quick firearm bore cleaning tips:

-ALWAYS clean from the breech to the muzzle. This pushes all debris, moisture, foul leading, etc. out of the barrel the way the bullet goes out.

-NEVER brush your firearm's bore first, always swap with a patch before brushing.

-DO NOT over saturate cleaning patches, a few drops will do.

-AVOID letting the rod of the cleaning figure bump/ride against the barrel.

-NEVER saturate a brush.

-NEVER disassemble your firearm past the manufactures recommendation. Leave that to a gunsmith.

And by the way, before you go out and buy a cleaning kit, I have read and learned from personal experience that Otis makes the best kits.

RE: barrell cleaning qestions.

Contrary to popular belief, a phosphor cleaning brush, does no harm to the barrel, I do agree with predator, however, I like to brush the barrel, before using patches, also, be sure to use a bore guide, I have recently started to use one, and they really speed up cleaning, because you arn't fighting to find the barrel, and gouging the throat.