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Matt/TN 12-12-2006 08:20 PM

270 win question
 
Alright, what would the advantage be of shooting a 150gr bullet instead of a 130? Most of my shots are under 100 yards in hardwoods. Just seeing what could be gained/lost

James B 12-12-2006 08:31 PM

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The only possibla advantage of the 150 would be maybe a little less meat damage at really close range.

VAhuntr 12-12-2006 08:33 PM

RE: 270 win question
 
For the .270 the 130 grain bullets are great for deer size game. You really dont need the 150's until you move up to larger game IMO. By the way what part of N.E. TN do you live in? I used to live in Johnson City andgraduated from ETSU.

TUK101 12-12-2006 08:36 PM

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Yeah, it would slow the bullet down a couple hundred fps and would therefore be a better choice for up close shots. Its also better on larger game. I use the 130's on deer, mostly for the lighter recoil, but also because I can take a 30 yard or 300 yard shot and know that my bullet is going to be on target. My dad uses the 150 silver tip when hunting elk with his .270.

Chantecler111 12-12-2006 08:46 PM

RE: 270 win question
 
Aheavier bullet with a higher SD, in fact, the SD on the 150 Gr .277 Bullet is higher than a 180 Gr .30 Cal Bullet.

Matt/TN 12-12-2006 09:03 PM

RE: 270 win question
 
VAhunter,


I live in Blountville, which is in the tri city area that includes Johnson City. I am only a few minutes away from johnson city, blountville is right in the middle of kingsport, bristol and johnson city.

Matt/TN 12-12-2006 09:04 PM

RE: 270 win question
 
so is the 150 a bad choice? because thats what I was planning on trying and that's what I have bought to try out of it when i get the gun for christmas.

Chantecler111 12-12-2006 09:05 PM

RE: 270 win question
 
No, the 150 Gr. is an excellent choice for heavier game, such as elk.

Chantecler111 12-12-2006 09:09 PM

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And, it will also do the job nicely on deer.

TUK101 12-12-2006 10:42 PM

RE: 270 win question
 
Using the 150 over the 130 isnt going to make a huge difference either way. The .270 is such a fast round in either the 130 or 150 grain bullets that it is like being asked if you would rather die in a car crash going 150mph or 130mph, either way your dead. The only real difference will be if you are going to try shooting over 200 yards or so, the 130 will shoot a bit flatter. Bullet selection is the real key though. I like the Core-Lokts for a factory load, they have always put the deer down very humanely.

ShatoDavis 12-13-2006 08:08 AM

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You better make sure your rifle like them heavier pills. I have a 270 that doesn't like anything but 130's. Anything else and it goes from a 3/4 moa wepon to 2 moa.

kelbro 12-13-2006 08:56 AM

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Shato nailed it. Make sure that your gun will shoot with your choice.

I have one .270 that really likes 130s and spreads 140s and 150s out. Another .270 seems to favor the 140s and 150s. Both are 22" barrels but maybe the twist rates are different.

Rebel Hog 12-13-2006 09:50 AM

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ORIGINAL: Chantecler111

No, the 150 Gr. is an excellent choice for heavier game, such as elk.
I also agree!!

Wolf killer 12-13-2006 10:08 AM

RE: 270 win question
 
Try both at the range on paper.Then buy the one that shoots best out of your rifle.

270 bdl 12-13-2006 12:36 PM

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I've used 150 gr. speer bullets for years on deer. It's a hammer. I have experienced less meat damage with 150's, but with 130 gr. core lokt's it's not too bad. I'd pick whichever bullet shoots the best.

Northernforest 12-13-2006 12:57 PM

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Either one will result in a dead deer but the 150gr will pound more bush than the 130gr.The .270 is not a brush gun anyway.

NoKnees 12-13-2006 02:44 PM

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Some of the classic 130 grain 270 bullets expand quite rapidly and do a fair amount of damage. Of course thats one of the reasons the 270 is considered such a good whitetail rifle. However the downside can be that under some cercumstances the 130 won't exit. Many times thats not so bad because the bullet does so much damage the animal doesn't go far. After all blood trail from an exit wound isn't so important when you have a bang flop.

I like to have an exit so there will be a better blood trail. You can achieve a larger precentage of exits either by choosing a heavier bullet of similar construction like corelock 150or premium bullet like an interbond,accubond,NP or TSX of the 130 weight.

Roskoe 12-13-2006 03:00 PM

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With elements of bullet construction being equal, the 150 grain is obviously going to give a little more penetration than a comparable 130 grain. But in this era of super bullets, weight is really no longer all that critical for penetration. The 130 grain Barnes Triple Shock or 130 Swift A-Frame will shoot through a deer end-for-end. And 130 grain Nosler Partitions will shoot through both shoulders of a bull elk. Why not stay with the lighter bullets and enjoy the flatter trajectory - using different bullet constuction types for different game?

Having said that, here are my picks for .270 bullets - based on 35 years of experience:

Antelope: 130 Nosler Ballistic Tip, 130 Hornaday SST

Deer: 140 Nosler Ballistic Tip, 140 Sierra BT, 140 Hornady Interlock

Elk: 130 Swift Scirocco, 140 TBBC, 140 Nosler Accubond

CDover 12-13-2006 03:35 PM

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My 270 like 130 corelocks ......Shoot Winchesters all over the place. They also seem to work ask the 4 deer in the freezer![/align][/align]

XTP 12-13-2006 05:01 PM

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Deer: 140 Nosler Ballistic Tip, 140 Sierra BT, 140 Hornady Interlock

Elk: 130 Swift Scirocco, 140 TBBC, 140 Nosler Accubond
Having used the .270 for years, these choices mirror my own. For deer lately I have been using 140gr SST's and took the 140 TBBC on my Elk hunt. If you look at the numbers on paper, the 140 is the best weight all around, but there isn't a deer walking this Earth that can tell the difference ! Find what your rifle likes the best and stick with that load.

Chantecler111 12-13-2006 10:44 PM

RE: 270 win question
 
Some people are just afraid to admit that the .270 is a perfectly adequate cartridge, because then, they have no reason to use a magnum all the time. The .270 with 150 Gr bullets will kill an elk, period.

TUK101 12-13-2006 10:57 PM

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ORIGINAL: Chantecler111

Some people are just afraid to admit that the .270 is a perfectly adequate cartridge, because then, they have no reason to use a magnum all the time. The .270 with 150 Gr bullets will kill an elk, period.
Thanks for the kind words about the .270. It seems that a lot of people like to overlook or disregard the .270 as a second rate round, not capable of taking game larger than a deer. From what I understand the .270 was the fastest, flattest shooting round for a lot of years and is still a lot more practical than some of these super souped up magnum rounds.

Chantecler111 12-13-2006 11:05 PM

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ORIGINAL: TUK101


ORIGINAL: Chantecler111

Some people are just afraid to admit that the .270 is a perfectly adequate cartridge, because then, they have no reason to use a magnum all the time. The .270 with 150 Gr bullets will kill an elk, period.
Thanks for the kind words about the .270. It seems that a lot of people like to overlook or disregard the .270 as a second rate round, not capable of taking game larger than a deer. From what I understand the .270 was the fastest, flattest shooting round for a lot of years and is still a lot more practical than some of these super souped up magnum rounds.
I agree, TUK, a lot of people don't realize that a .416 Magnum isn't needed for elk hunting, the .270 is one of the best big game cartridges ever invented, and most of the people who put it down are the "magnum" crowd, and most of them can't even shoot their rifles accurately, I find it laughable how these goons boast and brag about how powerful their new super duper whiz bang magnum is, and they can't even keep their bullets in a 10x10 black circle at 100 yards, because the recoil is just too much for them, but they won't admit it, they say "It shoots good, and the recoil isn't too bad", yeah, I guess that is why you have a bloody indention in your forehead from the scope of your rifle, eh? If a gun is too much, don't use it, and I have a strong feeling that most magnum cartridges just arn't needed, like the Remington line of Ultra Mags, but that is a different story. Some people just gotta have something to brag about, I guess.[:@]

eldeguello 12-14-2006 08:29 AM

RE: 270 win question
 

ORIGINAL: Cougars09

Alright, what would the advantage be of shooting a 150gr bullet instead of a 130? Most of my shots are under 100 yards in hardwoods. Just seeing what could be gained/lost
I used the Nosler Partition 150-graion bullet for everything when I lived in Alaska, since it has a little better penetration and one never knows when one might encounter a bull moose or a grizzly/brown bear, even when just hunting coastal blacktails.

When I returned to the lower 48, I switched to the 130-grain Nosler Partition for everything, since I did not anticipate any real big varmints like brown bears or bull moose. It has worked on everything I've firedit at down here.......

I honestly do not believe that the 150 will work any better for you than the 130, unless you are going for elk, moose, or larger bear. That is, unless it proves to be more accurate in your rifle than the 130-in mine, both shot about the same, 1.25" 5-shot groups.

eldeguello 12-14-2006 08:31 AM

RE: 270 win question
 

ORIGINAL: TUK101


ORIGINAL: Chantecler111

Some people are just afraid to admit that the .270 is a perfectly adequate cartridge, because then, they have no reason to use a magnum all the time. The .270 with 150 Gr bullets will kill an elk, period.
Thanks for the kind words about the .270. It seems that a lot of people like to overlook or disregard the .270 as a second rate round, not capable of taking game larger than a deer. From what I understand the .270 was the fastest, flattest shooting round for a lot of years and is still a lot more practical than some of these super souped up magnum rounds.
I knew a doctor's wife in Fairbanks AK whokilled several polar bear with her .270. She used 150-grain Nosler Partition bullets, and generally shot the bears ONE TIME each!

Catus Magnus 12-14-2006 08:33 AM

RE: 270 win question
 

ORIGINAL: Cougars09
Alright, what would the advantage be of shooting a 150gr bullet instead of a 130?
Maybe the 150s were on sale? Your rifle shoots better with them? You're shoot really big animals, and hope for some marginal improvement?


ORIGINAL: Cougars09
Most of my shots are under 100 yards in hardwoods.
In that case - with a .270? - I don't think it would make a whole lot of difference which bullet used. That said... I only killed three deer with my .270, and all were under 90yards. Here's that 90 yard buck - I hit him in the neck as he trotted through the woods, one of my best shots ever. I think I was using 130gr corelokt.





eldeguello 12-14-2006 08:35 AM

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Hey cattus - is that a Reh-bock, or what?

Catus Magnus 12-14-2006 08:41 AM

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ORIGINAL: eldeguello
Hey cattus - is that a Reh-bock, or what?
Hmmm... don't know... what's a Reh-bock?

Here's another shot of him, in the back of the jeep:





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