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Doe Dumper 11-26-2006 06:25 PM

Recovered core-lokt.
 
Found the core-lokt I killed a decent 8 pointer with last Monday while butchering the deer today. It was a 7 yard shot almost head on that impacted between the front shoulder and the neck. Bullet was recovered about an 1/8 inch below the surface at the back of the ham. Retained weight was 117 grains..if the small piece of the jacket that were found beside the bullet are counted retained goes to 123 grains. Bullet was a perfect mushroom. Fired from a 7-08 it began life as a 140 grain. It went through some large bone and travelled the length of the deer held together and dropped the deer within 15 yards. Pretty darned good performance for a "junk-lokt" :DOf all the deer I killed last week the only thing that they all had in common on bullet performance was the fact that all deer involved are now in the freezer :D


Is this about the norm for what everyone else is getting?

Chantecler111 11-26-2006 06:31 PM

RE: Recovered core-lokt.
 

ORIGINAL: Doe Dumper

Found the core-lokt I killed a decent 8 pointer with last Monday while butchering the deer today. It was a 7 yard shot almost head on that impacted between the front shoulder and the neck. Bullet was recovered about an 1/8 inch below the surface at the back of the ham. Retained weight was 117 grains..if the small piece of the jacket that were found beside the bullet are counted retained goes to 123 grains. Bullet was a perfect mushroom. Fired from a 7-08 it began life as a 140 grain. It went through some large bone and travelled the length of the deer held together and dropped the deer within 15 yards. Pretty darned good performance for a "junk-lokt" :DOf all the deer I killed last week the only thing that they all had in common on bullet performance was the fact that all deer involved are now in the freezer :D


Is this about the norm for what everyone else is getting?
No, actually, every core lokt I ever used got caught in the fur and never even penetrated, same with Winchester Power Points, you gotta have premium ammo if you wanna kill a deer, there is no way around it.:D:D:D

Aught Six 11-26-2006 06:32 PM

RE: Recovered core-lokt.
 
Couldn't tell you. My 150 grain .30-06 Core-Lokts passed through, turning vitals into jelly.

Doe Dumper 11-26-2006 06:46 PM

RE: Recovered core-lokt.
 
Yeah maybe I should add the vital were turned to red globs in this as well. This is the first one I ever recovered as the other 5 deer killed were all pass thrus..

TUK101 11-26-2006 07:06 PM

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The core lokt that was used to kill my daughters doe at around 30 yards went straight through and the deer only did the dyeing quivers. 130gr. .270 was used. Never had a problem using Core-Lokts or Winchester Power Points. I cannot see the point in paying more for ammo than neccessary when the longest shots that we take around here is only about 120 yards. I am now doing up some reloads that are grouping a bit tighter for me though.

onebadf250 11-26-2006 09:32 PM

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I love the corelokts and have killed a many a deer with them out of my 270. I shot a 195lb 8pt at 323yds and got a pass through a few years back. I have retrieved the bullets out of several deer that I've shot. If I'm able to retrieve them that means they did their job.Most of my non pass throughs have been quartering to me shots where I was shooting mostly the length of the deer and almost all of them I shot like that dropped in their tracks. I'm definitly a believer in them.

handloader1 11-26-2006 10:48 PM

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Remington Core-Lokts have been killing game for many years. Good luck.

James B 11-27-2006 07:23 AM

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Does anyone buy the Bulk Corlokts for reloading? I used to when I lived right close to a ammo place in SD.

DM 11-27-2006 07:49 AM

RE: Recovered core-lokt.
 
There's no magic here, Cor-lokts are like any other bullet made. Drive it too fast and it comes apart, use it like it was designed to be used and it works just fine.

Once you use any bullet out of it's designed velocity range you will start getting falures, that's where the premiums pay off as they have a wider operateing range...

DM

mistahmojoryan 11-27-2006 07:58 AM

RE: Recovered core-lokt.
 
Never had a problem with CoreLokts or Power Points in 30-06 or 300WM in 150gr-180gr...great deer killers. They're acceptable in every way: penetration, expansion, trajectory, accuracy.

Other good bullets that make it cheap and easy to improve on their performance but that doesn't mean they're no good. ;)

SwampCollie 11-27-2006 08:01 AM

RE: Recovered core-lokt.
 
Doe Dumper (great handle by the way):

I am also a student of the 7-08 bullet game. However, I have shot factory offerings with Core-Lokts, and my two 7-08's didn't care for them, so beyond a few groups on the range, I have no experience with CL's out of the 7-08.

I have never not had a complete pass through with my 7-08. I have done some tests with water, plywood and the like to see how well different bullets held together. While nothing but a deer is really a deer, my tests showed that the Barnes TSX bullets held up the best. The 140 grainers didn't really lose any weight at 100 yards. Inside of 50, I did have some of the pettles get ripped off, but apparently its designed to do that. Weight retention otherwise was nearly always 100%.

What I like best about them is that they don't tear up a lot of meat like the Balistic Tips I used to shoot do. They are CERTAINLY effective, and whenever I took a deer with them, it was lights out on the spot (save one shot I botched, had to do a bit of following, but still, dead inside of 100 yards).

I am glad the CL's are working for you. I used to shoot them out of an '06 and took a few deer with them. They work well if you do your job with bullet placement!

mossy33oak 11-27-2006 09:45 AM

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I think there's a conspiracy theory going on here, I think there was a 2nd gunman shotting a premium bullet that actually did the killing, your Corejunkt merely penetrated the hide and dipersed. :D

Doe Dumper 11-27-2006 11:05 AM

RE: Recovered core-lokt.
 
LMAO Mossy you're killing me :D Lithium or Prozac time :D SwampCollie I do a little bit of reloading but just dont have rthe time right now to do it the way I want. I have been considering loading some of the 120 TSX's for deer. I was curious as to how they would perfrom at the less than magnum velocities our guns see. Thanks for the info. BTW The core-junks :Dhave grouped better than anything so far in my adl...always right under an inch. I was thinking the 120's driven to around 3000-3050 would add a little flatness without loosing penetration compared to the factory loads. However I dont get paid to think :DThanks again for the info!

GRIZZLYMAN 11-27-2006 11:27 AM

RE: Recovered core-lokt.
 
My brother in law shot a doe Friday morning with a 308 150 gr Core-lokt. This was a medium size deer and he shot it in the neck just in front of the shoulders. It had a hole that I could stick my fist (which isn't small) through the neck. I may have to go back to core-lokts.

SwampCollie 11-27-2006 11:31 AM

RE: Recovered core-lokt.
 

ORIGINAL: Doe Dumper

LMAO Mossy you're killing me :D Lithium or Prozac time :D SwampCollie I do a little bit of reloading but just dont have rthe time right now to do it the way I want. I have been considering loading some of the 120 TSX's for deer. I was curious as to how they would perfrom at the less than magnum velocities our guns see. Thanks for the info. BTW The core-junks :Dhave grouped better than anything so far in my adl...always right under an inch. I was thinking the 120's driven to around 3000-3050 would add a little flatness without loosing penetration compared to the factory loads. However I dont get paid to think :DThanks again for the info!
No problem, glad to help if you can call it that.

I don't have a chronograph, so results for me are just what I see and a post mortem on deer. I have loaded some of the 120s, but since there is only a month left in our season, I am just waiting until the doldrums of February to try out a bunch of diff stuff. Like you, I don't have time to reload right now, I am too busy either hunting or at work. Once the deer and then duck season is open I'll have some time to kill. I am shooting the 140gr TSXB with 43 gr of win 760 out of my Encore right now and it is driving tacks. It was a test load left over that my Rem 7-08 didn't care for, so I only had about 10 bullets before I sighted her in. Now, after group testing, sighting in, and two deer, I only have two left. Better make them count!

Aught Six 11-27-2006 11:50 AM

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My brother in law shot a doe Friday morning with a 308 150 gr Core-lokt. This was a medium size deer and he shot it in the neck just in front of the shoulders. It had a hole that I could stick my fist (which isn't small) through the neck. I may have to go back to core-lokts.
Shot a small doe last Friday, leaving a nice, gurgling,fist-sized exit wound on the right shoulder. Not much left of the lungs except for some red goop.

haugenna 11-27-2006 10:26 PM

RE: Recovered core-lokt.
 
DD

Post us a picture of that bullet. If you can.

Briman 11-27-2006 10:45 PM

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Does anyone buy the Bulk Corlokts for reloading? I used to when I lived right close to a ammo place in SD.
I bought a few 500 per bulk boxes of 140 gr 6.5 mm corelokts a few years ago from either Midway or Midsouth. One of my Swedes loves those bullets andI use them for milsurp matches. I was suprised that several other guys also shot the same bullet in the matches. A real good competitor isn't going to shootmuch better than 2moa consistantly with open iron sights, and the corelokts are plenty good enough to shoot better than that at 100 yards- no sense spending 3 or 4x as much on SMKs.

TUK101 11-27-2006 10:47 PM

RE: Recovered core-lokt.
 
Yeah, I am pretty sure that if they where actually "junk lokt's" like I have seen a few people refer to them as then they wouldnt be selling as well as they do. I know that they have always done the trick for me and several other people that I hunt with.

Doe Dumper 11-28-2006 01:46 AM

RE: Recovered core-lokt.
 
Its laying here on the desk but Im not real sure how to get it on there without a digital camera and floppy drive. If I can use someone elses I may be able to do it.

Todd1700 11-28-2006 09:01 AM

RE: Recovered core-lokt.
 

Never had a problem using Core-Lokts or Winchester Power Points. I cannot see the point in paying more for ammo than neccessary when the longest shots that we take around here is only about 120 yards.
I agree. I have never had a deer survive a cor-lokt, interlockor a power point ifI kept up my end of the deal. I have had people online chastise me from time to time saying things like, "With all that we spend on hunting why skimp on the cheapest aspect of hunting, your bullets?" My answer, when they stop working then I'll start buying the more expensive bullets. Quite frankly I think that they have gotten some of these premum bullets too tough for your average deer. My buddy shot a doe 40 yards away with a Barnes x-bullet out of a 7mm mag last year. Man do they rave about those bulletsat some of the online websites dominated bythe self proclamed shooting elite. Places like 24hourcampfire.com. That doe ran a 100 yards into a thicket after being shot right behind the shoulder. It took him hours to find her because there was no blood trail from the caliber sized entrance hole and the virtually same sized exit hole. Now you tell me how that's better bulletperformance than a cor-lokt, interlock, or power point? Is that performance worth paying more than twice as muchmoney per box of shells? I don't think so and neither does my buddy who has since went back to cor-lokts.

Doe Dumper 11-28-2006 11:09 AM

RE: Recovered core-lokt.
 
Dangit you guys arent giving me any reason to reload here..lol. I have boxes of Interlocks and Solid bases that I have been dying to try out on deer but I cant make the time to load em up and I really dunno if I could make em group any better or kill any deader rthan these cheap factory loads. Only thing I can see is a little higher bc and maybe a slightly flatter trajectory. Even though mostof my shots are inside a 100 yards. The 300-400 yard shots are still common and can be taken if you wish. Those core-lokts killed at ranged distances from 7-322 yards last week. I hunt on logged property (thick) but being in WV you can shoot ridge to ridge and the neighbor's field almost always has a deer in it sometime during the week. Takes a versatile gun to cover all of it.

bigcountry 11-28-2006 11:36 AM

RE: Recovered core-lokt.
 

ORIGINAL: Doe Dumper

Found the core-lokt I killed a decent 8 pointer with last Monday while butchering the deer today. It was a 7 yard shot almost head on that impacted between the front shoulder and the neck. Bullet was recovered about an 1/8 inch below the surface at the back of the ham. Retained weight was 117 grains..if the small piece of the jacket that were found beside the bullet are counted retained goes to 123 grains. Bullet was a perfect mushroom. Fired from a 7-08 it began life as a 140 grain. It went through some large bone and travelled the length of the deer held together and dropped the deer within 15 yards. Pretty darned good performance for a "junk-lokt" :DOf all the deer I killed last week the only thing that they all had in common on bullet performance was the fact that all deer involved are now in the freezer :D


Is this about the norm for what everyone else is getting?
You know I used to kill dozens of deer with coreloks, but for some reason, I guess reloading, I quit using them. They were never terribly accurate, but price was right and only ammo you can get in Southern WV at the time I lived there.

Since reloading, I have yet to buy any to try to reload. We all fall victim to the next best thing in hunting stuff. Probably another one of them things.

Doe Dumper 11-28-2006 11:47 AM

RE: Recovered core-lokt.
 
They still sell them nearly everywhere here BC :DWV has to be the only place I ever seen where a convienence store has an ammo rack :D

bigcountry 11-28-2006 12:02 PM

RE: Recovered core-lokt.
 

ORIGINAL: Doe Dumper

They still sell them nearly everywhere here BC :DWV has to be the only place I ever seen where a convienence store has an ammo rack :D
Yea, but they want like 24 dollars for a box of 270win. Hey, you guys got that fancy walmart in Logan. Should have it all.

I was in Petersburg, WV, doing some squirrel hunting, and blasted away a whole box. I ran down to the mom and pop gas station and bought some high brass no5. Holy cow, they were twice the price. But I got my ammo, and back to shooting the tree rats.

Doe Dumper 11-28-2006 12:11 PM

RE: Recovered core-lokt.
 
Wal-Mart has had the core-lokts most of the fall for 12-15 a box for the popular calibers. 243, 270, 30-06, 30-30, 308. Ammo sure has went up though. They were selling the Fed Classic for 9.99 a box but it didnt last long. I probably bought 15 boxes of that altogether myself..lol. Theres 2 Wal-Marts in Beckley one in Welch (no kidding) and that one in Logan. You are right though...average prices are over $20. Convienence matters though sometimes. :D

shepdogwv 11-28-2006 12:15 PM

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Up in Wetzel County the ol' corelocks are ones that you can find anywhere you please too, except of course for my 7mm-08 the WalMarts only carries those danged Winchester PowerPoints. Terrible haha
I've had great success with the corelocks, I recovered one from my 7mm08 last year that hit right between the hams through the spine and went the length of the body and was under the skin by the ribs. Perfect mushroom.

DM 11-28-2006 01:04 PM

RE: Recovered core-lokt.
 

Its laying here on the desk but Im not real sure how to get it on there without a digital camera and floppy drive. If I can use someone elses I may be able to do it.
I've had pretty good luck putting bullets on a flat bed scanner, and scanning the bullets into my puter... Practise with it untill you learn how to make them look pretty good...

DM

Doe Dumper 11-28-2006 02:12 PM

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Shepdog thats where I do all my hunting at. Jacksonburg area. Been hunting in Wetzel County since 1987...lol.

shepdogwv 11-28-2006 04:49 PM

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Man, that's a trip from Baileysville, I'm from the "big city" up there but I've done some runnin around out that way, I'm gettin ready to marry a girl from ol Pine Grove Valley.

Buck_Sniper 11-29-2006 06:18 AM

RE: Recovered core-lokt.
 
I have to agree with the use of the core lokts as I use them in both my -06 and .260. Shot an 8ptr monday with the .260 down through the back and it liquified the heart and lungs. It didnt even quiver. I also found the bullet about to come through the hide in the underbelly, this is the first time this has happened, I think it clipped the spine. Anyway the deer was on the ground.

At one time the core lokt was considered a premium bullet, but now with all the technology, it seems that many consider it "just a bullet". It has always done its job for me, no failures.

matt068 11-29-2006 06:42 AM

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My winchester power points have never let me down group well out of my 30-30 contender and never lost a deer in ten yrs don't remember any going over 40 yds. However I'd love to try the new lever evolution but 25 bucks for 20 shells in 30-30 thats steep. For that price I would expect the gun to shot itself

270 bdl 11-29-2006 03:47 PM

RE: Recovered core-lokt.
 
The woman just whacked a nice doe this afternoon at her Dad's with a 300 savage and 150 gr. core lokt's. Double lunged it and broke the far side shoulder. Hardly any bloodshot meat, and I forgot to mention dead right there. I ordered some 270 cal. 130 gr. core lokt's bulk from midway. The factory loads shoot great out of my rifle.

Chantecler111 11-29-2006 04:02 PM

RE: Recovered core-lokt.
 
The Cor lokt does what it was designed to do, pretty good, and that is kill game humanely.

TUK101 11-29-2006 05:17 PM

RE: Recovered core-lokt.
 
Would anybody care to explain why a Core Lokt bullet would even be considered a junk bullet? Idunno, I have just heard a lot of people kind of cringeing on factory ammo lately, namely the Core Lokts and Power Point ammo. Now I understand that for top notch target shooting, a good handload is generally going to perform better, but for killing an animal the Power Point and Kore Lokt have always done well for most people that I know. My dad has bumped up to the Silver Tips nowdays for big game hunting, but for deer it is still a Core Lokt or Power Point. I think that you just need to make sure that you are using the right version of the bullet since they are rated for the game for which you are hunting. Usinga bullet intended for thin skinned animals on something like an ELk or Moose is probably not going to perform correctly, and vice versa a bullet intended for thick skinned larger boned animals is probably going to get a pass through shot that doesnt quite tear things up like needed.

OughtSix 11-30-2006 02:17 PM

RE: Recovered core-lokt.
 
I have been reloading Corelokts for years in my 30-06. They are very good game killers. The major problem with Corelokts is the fact that they dont have the potential for the same accuracy as say a Hornady Interlock. It is quite common to compare several Corelokts and find the cannulars are in different spots. Sometimes they vary in length. I am convinced Remington produces these to be 1" bullets. In today's world, that is really that great and for anal individuals like myself, accuracy is paramount.

hldeerhunter 12-05-2006 09:32 AM

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I have shot 150 grn Rem Express core-lokts in 30-30 for over 10 years now. I have had a pass through on every deer I have shot with that gun, 25 to 100 yards. My dad has shot many deer with the same bullets and has only had one that did not pass through. That shot was at 35 yards through the hind quarter, intestines, stomach, diaphram, liver, lungs, heart, and a shoulder. I found the bullet...intact...just under the skin. I wouldn't shoot anything else.


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