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blondiez24 11-17-2006 08:39 AM

nef 410?
 
I just got a new new england firearms .410 with a full choke. I put a scope on it. I was just wondering how good this gun would shoot with just a winchester slug? I haven't got a chance to shoot it yet and was just wondering what to expect. How far would the maxium distance be for a 410 tokill a deer? Thanks

BrutalAttack 11-17-2006 09:02 AM

RE: nef 410?
 

ORIGINAL: blondiez24

I just got a new new england firearms .410 with a full choke. I put a scope on it. I was just wondering how good this gun would shoot with just a winchester slug? I haven't got a chance to shoot it yet and was just wondering what to expect. How far would the maxium distance be for a 410 tokill a deer? Thanks
A 410 slug barely makes 500 ft/lbs at 50 yards. I wouldn't use it beyond that range. Actually, I wouldn't use it at all but...

SwampCollie 11-17-2006 10:36 AM

RE: nef 410?
 
Good way to end up in the ER....don't shoot a slug through a full choke!

BrutalAttack 11-17-2006 10:44 AM

RE: nef 410?
 

ORIGINAL: SwampCollie

Good way to end up in the ER....don't shoot a slug through a full choke!
Holy crap. You are rightI didn't even catch that sorry.

blondiez24 11-17-2006 11:10 AM

RE: nef 410?
 
I have always shot slugs through my 12 gauge full choke. It always did fine. Now like a super full or xtra full that would be different. I bought from a gun shop specifically to deer hunt with they said it would shoot slugs good. I was just wondering how accurate they are? Also what the effective range is out to? My dad killed a 10 point at 60 yards when he was like 17 years old with a .410. I was figuring maybe 75 yards max I don't know though. Any opinions would be appreciated. Thanks

blondiez24 11-17-2006 04:13 PM

RE: nef 410?
 
Well I shot it today at 45 yards. I coul only get it to group about a 5 inch group. That is with winchester 3 inch slugs. I called the place I bought it, and asked if it was safe to shoot he said yes people have been shooting through full chokes for 50 years. Well I told him it wasn't grouping that well he said you have to shoot a bunch of different slugs, because some will shoot better out of a full choke than others. So do you guys have any idea which slugs would be best out of this gun?? Thanks

Chantecler111 11-17-2006 04:15 PM

RE: nef 410?
 

ORIGINAL: SwampCollie

Good way to end up in the ER....don't shoot a slug through a full choke!
That is an old wives tale, I have been shooting slugs through a full choke for years, including my full choke Pardner 10 Gauge, nothing happens.

Paul L Mohr 11-17-2006 05:47 PM

RE: nef 410?
 
Rifled slugs will shoot thru a full choke, if it wasn't a rifled slug I wouldn't do it though. The rifling is there to crush as it goes through the choke. However full chokes usually don't give too good of accuracy, it really deforms the slug when it exits. You would have better luck if it were a modified or IC choke. Good luck finding that in a 410 though. From what I understand most are full choke which is why they can be a bit tricky to shoot.

As far as distance, my advice would be to stay in bow ranges, say 30 yards or so, 50 would be pushing it unless your gun was pretty darn accurate at that distance and you could put the bullet right where you wanted it.

Stepping up to a 20 ga is much better for deer.

Personally I would rather use a .357 revolver over a 410 slug if given the choice.

Paul

Chantecler111 11-17-2006 06:30 PM

RE: nef 410?
 

ORIGINAL: Paul L Mohr

Rifled slugs will shoot thru a full choke, if it wasn't a rifled slug I wouldn't do it though. The rifling is there to crush as it goes through the choke. However full chokes usually don't give too good of accuracy, it really deforms the slug when it exits. You would have better luck if it were a modified or IC choke. Good luck finding that in a 410 though. From what I understand most are full choke which is why they can be a bit tricky to shoot.

As far as distance, my advice would be to stay in bow ranges, say 30 yards or so, 50 would be pushing it unless your gun was pretty darn accurate at that distance and you could put the bullet right where you wanted it.

Stepping up to a 20 ga is much better for deer.

Personally I would rather use a .357 revolver over a 410 slug if given the choice.

Paul
Yeah., the accuracy of a slug after passing through a full choke sucks pretty bad.

Wolf651 11-17-2006 07:09 PM

RE: nef 410?
 
Blondiez-

You should try brenneke 3" slugs.My.410 mossberg 500seem to group good with them, I get 2" inch groups out to 40 yards.40 yardsis the max I'll shoot a deer with a .410 slug. Paul L. pretty much explain about shooting a slug through a full choke and I've been shooting mine for 6 years now.

blondiez24 11-17-2006 08:44 PM

RE: nef 410?
 
hey wolf your .410 has a full choke too? The brenneke shoot better than any other? Or have you shot any others out of it? Any info would help thanks

Wolf651 11-18-2006 07:28 AM

RE: nef 410?
 

ORIGINAL: blondiez24

hey wolf your .410 has a full choke too? The brenneke shoot better than any other? Or have you shot any others out of it? Any info would help thanks
My .410 has a full choke and a front bead sight. I've shot winchester, remington, and federal, 2 1/2" and 3" .410 slugs and brenneke 3" shoots the best. I've taken6 deerswith benneke 3".4 deers didn't go farther then60 yards and2 dropped within 20 yards from my stand.All thedeers wereshot within 40 yards or less. I've taken some yotes and foxes too. Try the brenneke 3" if you gun like them.

Nitefox 11-18-2006 05:52 PM

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Wolf - not to be anal or anything but i dont believe deers is a word.....pretty sure its just deer.....in cingular and plural...... sorry it just bothered me.....

Paul L Mohr 11-19-2006 07:46 AM

RE: nef 410?
 
Maybe it was a typo or something;).

Paul


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