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JeffS 10-25-2006 07:17 AM

RE: Ruger No 1 .375 H&H or HOWA 1500 .338?
 
I've never shot the .338 though I've always wanted one. We do have a .375 a friend of ours bought and can't shoot because he is afraid of the recoil. It is the same exact type you are asking about laminated stock an stainless barrel. If you can handle the recoil it is a excellent gun. Though you get a headache after several shots from it.

longrifle1000 10-25-2006 08:14 AM

RE: Ruger No 1 .375 H&H or HOWA 1500 .338?
 
The Howa Lightning in SS runs $450.

The Ruger #1 SS runs $750.

I would have no issues with getting the #1 if that is what I wanted. But if it was just for shooting I would get the 338 win mag. But it would not be a Howa. I would spend the extra $100 or so and get a Tikka T3 Lite in SS. JMHO of course.

Red Lion 10-25-2006 08:21 AM

RE: Ruger No 1 .375 H&H or HOWA 1500 .338?
 
I would go with the .338, as it will destroy anything on the western hemisphere. I would only suggest the .375 if looking to liveor hunt in Alaska or Africa often.

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[email protected] 10-25-2006 06:52 PM

RE: Ruger No 1 .375 H&H or HOWA 1500 .338?
 
Magnum Man, what kind of question is this supposed to be? If expense isn't an issue, hell get them both! And as for the reply about living in Alaska, if you can't make do with a 338 a 375 will not help much. The only way a 338 would be inadiquate is if you can't hit with it, and if someone can't shoot a 338 then a 375 is out of the question.

[email protected] 10-25-2006 06:56 PM

RE: Ruger No 1 .375 H&H or HOWA 1500 .338?
 
As for the suggestion to get the Tikka lite, I would think twice as the recoil would be nasty!

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biscuit jake 10-25-2006 08:24 PM

RE: Ruger No 1 .375 H&H or HOWA 1500 .338?
 
When I fired 300 grain bullets in my .338, I really could not tell much difference in recoil between that and a Remington 375 H&H. But the 338 will shoot flatter and longer with the 225 grainers. The 375 is getting to a different piece... alot more frontal area. Bigger hole. I have a clue you won't be using this much in Arkansas, so I would let the critter and distance be my guide.

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JeffS 10-26-2006 12:36 PM

RE: Ruger No 1 .375 H&H or HOWA 1500 .338?
 

the ammo isn't much more expensive than the .338, at my supply store a box of .270 Gr Federal soft points for the .375 cost 25.00, while the 225 Gr .338 is 23.00
Where are you buying them at? Even the standard calibers like 30-06 are running closer to $35 or more a box now where I live. Though that is with the premium bullets.

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Red Lion 10-26-2006 01:10 PM

RE: Ruger No 1 .375 H&H or HOWA 1500 .338?
 

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Magnum Man, what kind of question is this supposed to be? If expense isn't an issue, hell get them both! And as for the reply about living in Alaska, if you can't make do with a 338 a 375 will not help much. The only way a 338 would be inadiquate is if you can't hit with it, and if someone can't shoot a 338 then a 375 is out of the question.
Who said anything about "living in Alaska?" I also believe that the title with "or" in it makes it an either or.

[email protected] 10-26-2006 08:31 PM

RE: Ruger No 1 .375 H&H or HOWA 1500 .338?
 
Red Lion, you should read your own reply,( Iwould only suggest the .375 if looking to live and hunt in Alaska or Africa often!) DUHHH.

Red Lion 10-27-2006 08:30 AM

RE: Ruger No 1 .375 H&H or HOWA 1500 .338?
 
You must be mistaken my friend! Take another look at the post.

[email protected] 10-27-2006 08:34 PM

RE: Ruger No 1 .375 H&H or HOWA 1500 .338?
 
I did and you should also look, as It's a direct quote from your reply! But It's not worth arguing over, so you will not here anything more from me on this issue.

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eldeguello 10-28-2006 05:45 AM

RE: Ruger No 1 .375 H&H or HOWA 1500 .338?
 

ORIGINAL: JeffS

I've never shot the .338 though I've always wanted one. We do have a .375 a friend of ours bought and can't shoot because he is afraid of the recoil. It is the same exact type you are asking about laminated stock an stainless barrel. If you can handle the recoil it is a excellent gun. Though you get a headache after several shots from it.
I have a 1H .375 H&H, (blue/walnut) and once owned a nice pre-64 M70 Super Grade in that chambering. While you do have to shoot it to get used to the recoil (it ain't no .30/'06!!), it is really not all that bad! The Model 70 was a *****cat, as it weighed 11.75 pounds loadedwith scope and sling!

While there is nothing wrong with the Howa, and .338 Win. is a good round, I'd opt for the .375 No. 1 because I prefer the Ruger No.1 (or any decent single-shot) over a bolt-action.

ELKampMaster 10-28-2006 06:07 PM

RE: Ruger No 1 .375 H&H or HOWA 1500 .338?
 
Got 338WinMag and 375H&H, but got no single shot high power rifles.
Other than a smoke pole I'm ready to get rid of, I don't own a single shot rifle, shotgun, or pistol of any sort.

Really, I don't consider myselfperfect enough to feel good about utilizing single shot rifles for any sort of big game hunting.
I'd take the Howa in 338 WinMag.

cherokee_outfitters 10-29-2006 06:24 AM

RE: Ruger No 1 .375 H&H or HOWA 1500 .338?
 
All my centerfire rifles are single shot. The ruger No 1 375h&h is actually tamed in recoil compared to most rifles that I have shot in that caliber. And it also will shoot cloverleaf groups. You can put atleast 30-40rounds down range before you start to have the ouch factor without a brake or fixed recoil absorbing rest. I've shot the howa's my friends have bought and there's some recoil.

eldeguello 10-29-2006 07:25 AM

RE: Ruger No 1 .375 H&H or HOWA 1500 .338?
 

ORIGINAL: ELKampMaster

Got 338WinMag and 375H&H, but got no single shot high power rifles.
Other than a smoke pole I'm ready to get rid of, I don't own a single shot rifle, shotgun, or pistol of any sort.

Really, I don't consider myselfperfect enough to feel good about utilizing single shot rifles for any sort of big game hunting.
I'd take the Howa in 338 WinMag.
I have been using single-shot rifles since 1953 when I got a Winchester Model 47 .22 LR. On any given outing with that little rifle, I generally managed to shoot up about as much ammo as my buddies with repeaters of various persuasions, including semi-autos. I could keep shooting, one at a time, but theyhad to stop shooting to fill up a clip or magazine, so thetotal number of shots we could get off in a given time worked out to be about equal.

However, it is a fallacy to believe onehas to be "perfect" to use a single-shot for big game hunting. Over the years, I have found that it is desireable to kill your game with the first shot, if possible, since often critters don't give you an opportunity toshoot again. I assume you subscribe to this idea also, since you are undoubtedly a concerned sportsman. Yes, it does happen, but the Ruger No. 1 can be reloaded for the second and subsequent shots just about as fast as a bolt-action can, if you carry the extra six rounds in a buttstock cartridge holder and have done a little practicing for fast reloading. Yes, fast repeat shots with a single shot require a familiarity with the operation of the SS action. But it is just a different set of manual actions than those used to operate a bolt rifle.

Whenusing a single shot for dangerous game, one can hold a couple of extra rounds betweenthe fingers of the left hand (assuming one is right handed) while aiming for the first shot, just like the guys do who use doubles. If you practice reloading this way, you will find you can drop the block and slam another round into the chamber and close the block just as quickly as a person can cycle the bolt when using a long cartridge like the .416 Rigby.


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