My gun for Africa....
10-19-2006, 10:32 PM
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: My gun for Africa....
ORIGINAL: cma3366a
As I said, nobody is a bigger remington 700 fan than myself, they are the best production deer, varmin tand target rifle IMO. But a DGR they are NOT. Reasons. Brazed bolt handle, bad extractor system (for dg), and a not so great ejector system (for dg). The last thing I would want chasing DG on another continent, in much warmer temps (and in turn, higher pressures), with big bore, high pressure loadings is a rifle that is not 100% to extract and eject, and one whose bolt hand might just come off if I yank on it to extract that sticky case.Africa is the onearena where the Mauser wins, every time, hands down. Dont take my word for it, www.accuratereloading.com
As I said, nobody is a bigger remington 700 fan than myself, they are the best production deer, varmin tand target rifle IMO. But a DGR they are NOT. Reasons. Brazed bolt handle, bad extractor system (for dg), and a not so great ejector system (for dg). The last thing I would want chasing DG on another continent, in much warmer temps (and in turn, higher pressures), with big bore, high pressure loadings is a rifle that is not 100% to extract and eject, and one whose bolt hand might just come off if I yank on it to extract that sticky case.Africa is the onearena where the Mauser wins, every time, hands down. Dont take my word for it, www.accuratereloading.com
Yeah I agree the extractor on the 700 isn't the strongest. They do have a 798 that has a Mauser type claw extractor. They areconsiderably more exspensive though.
10-19-2006, 11:00 PM
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RE: My gun for Africa....
ORIGINAL: BrutalAttack
I just found this gun. I don't know if I can accurately shoot a 416 or bigger,so this looks like my best option.
Any opinions on what other caliber/gun I should get? Price is a major factor hence no spiffy $12,000 British double.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=58719751
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Take a gun your confidence is with...a 22 automatic with a belt feed...Do it then...A 30-06 steel jacket...it will drop an elephant with one shot...If your not confident in your arsinol,don't go hunting....steel jacket bullets..They used these in wars,The reason why, is it didn't kill the person and it took 2 to carry out a wounded,3 eliminated...Use a steel jacket in the 06..it will drop any animal alive...no shrap,no mushroom,straight thru...
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I just found this gun. I don't know if I can accurately shoot a 416 or bigger,so this looks like my best option.
Any opinions on what other caliber/gun I should get? Price is a major factor hence no spiffy $12,000 British double.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=58719751
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Take a gun your confidence is with...a 22 automatic with a belt feed...Do it then...A 30-06 steel jacket...it will drop an elephant with one shot...If your not confident in your arsinol,don't go hunting....steel jacket bullets..They used these in wars,The reason why, is it didn't kill the person and it took 2 to carry out a wounded,3 eliminated...Use a steel jacket in the 06..it will drop any animal alive...no shrap,no mushroom,straight thru...
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10-19-2006, 11:45 PM
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RE: My gun for Africa....
Yeah I agree the extractor on the 700 isn't the strongest. They do have a 798 that has a Mauser type claw extractor. They areconsiderably more exspensive though.
http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire_rifles/model_798_specs.asp
http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire_rifles/model_700/model_700_XCR_specs.asp
10-20-2006, 09:11 AM
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RE: My gun for Africa....
ORIGINAL: stubblejumper
Compare the prices of the xcr and the 798.Yet again our scientist is wrong.
http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire_rifles/model_798_specs.asp
http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire_rifles/model_700/model_700_XCR_specs.asp
Yeah I agree the extractor on the 700 isn't the strongest. They do have a 798 that has a Mauser type claw extractor. They areconsiderably more exspensive though.
http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire_rifles/model_798_specs.asp
http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire_rifles/model_700/model_700_XCR_specs.asp
My dealer prices aren't that much different. Around $720 for the XCR. Have to check on the 798. I hope for my sake it's cheaper.
Better get your licks in when you can stubble...it doesn't happen often.
10-20-2006, 09:12 AM
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RE: My gun for Africa....
ORIGINAL: smokeman
Take a gun your confidence is with...a 22 automatic with a belt feed...Do it then...A 30-06 steel jacket...it will drop an elephant with one shot...If your not confident in your arsinol,don't go hunting....steel jacket bullets..They used these in wars,The reason why, is it didn't kill the person and it took 2 to carry out a wounded,3 eliminated...Use a steel jacket in the 06..it will drop any animal alive...no shrap,no mushroom,straight thru...
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Take a gun your confidence is with...a 22 automatic with a belt feed...Do it then...A 30-06 steel jacket...it will drop an elephant with one shot...If your not confident in your arsinol,don't go hunting....steel jacket bullets..They used these in wars,The reason why, is it didn't kill the person and it took 2 to carry out a wounded,3 eliminated...Use a steel jacket in the 06..it will drop any animal alive...no shrap,no mushroom,straight thru...
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10-20-2006, 09:14 AM
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RE: My gun for Africa....
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Are you going to be shooting Plains Game or Dangerous Game? The Ideal calibers for Africa are .375 H&H or 9.3X62!
Are you going to be shooting Plains Game or Dangerous Game? The Ideal calibers for Africa are .375 H&H or 9.3X62!
i'm not sure where I'll be going or what I'll be doing. I can tell you I have no desire to shoot an elephant but proably anything else.
10-20-2006, 09:49 AM
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RE: My gun for Africa....
Brutal,
I have never hunted africa and probaly never will.I do how ever have the guns,If I was going to.
If I could only take just one it would be the .416 Rem mag.Shoots flat enough for plains game and carries enough energy for the biggest of beasts.The recoil is not as much as one would think and probaly be on par with the .375 RUM.
You wouldn't be to under guned with the 375 H&H or the 458 Lott(give you the option of shooting 458 win mag in a pinch).
Good luck
BBJ
I have never hunted africa and probaly never will.I do how ever have the guns,If I was going to.
If I could only take just one it would be the .416 Rem mag.Shoots flat enough for plains game and carries enough energy for the biggest of beasts.The recoil is not as much as one would think and probaly be on par with the .375 RUM.
You wouldn't be to under guned with the 375 H&H or the 458 Lott(give you the option of shooting 458 win mag in a pinch).
Good luck
BBJ
10-20-2006, 09:56 AM
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RE: My gun for Africa....
ORIGINAL: BareBack Jack
Brutal,
I have never hunted africa and probaly never will.I do how ever have the guns,If I was going to.
If I could only take just one it would be the .416 Rem mag.Shoots flat enough for plains game and carries enough energy for the biggest of beasts.The recoil is not as much as one would think and probaly be on par with the .375 RUM.
You wouldn't be to under guned with the 375 H&H or the 458 Lott(give you the option of shooting 458 win mag in a pinch).
Good luck
BBJ
Brutal,
I have never hunted africa and probaly never will.I do how ever have the guns,If I was going to.
If I could only take just one it would be the .416 Rem mag.Shoots flat enough for plains game and carries enough energy for the biggest of beasts.The recoil is not as much as one would think and probaly be on par with the .375 RUM.
You wouldn't be to under guned with the 375 H&H or the 458 Lott(give you the option of shooting 458 win mag in a pinch).
Good luck
BBJ
