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stubblejumper 10-17-2006 09:21 PM

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http://forums.mathewsinc.com/viewtopic.php?t=44529&highlight=

smokeman 10-17-2006 10:18 PM

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I don't think that happened..I think it was ment for a joke pic... That bore sighter would of been blown right out of there with no damage to the barrel..

strob2 10-17-2006 11:03 PM

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When I was a kid I used to like to watch the trap shooters when they were shooting, and I have seen a shotgun blow apart very similar to that. Here it turned out that the shooter set the muzzle down when reloading and missed the rubber pad on the ground and put a nice dirt plug in theend of the barrel. I dont realy know what ever happened to him but I do remember hehad facial injuries. That was a day I will never forget, as far as to where I was sitting on thepicnic table. I even remember my Mom running over and making me go inside the clubhouseas to not see what was going on.

That was one lesson learned at a real young age. To this day I always always check the muzzle, and never let it touch the ground.

Shane

Not_Magnum_Man_300 10-17-2006 11:10 PM

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ORIGINAL: smokeman

I don't think that happened..I think it was ment for a joke pic... That bore sighter would of been blown right out of there with no damage to the barrel..
Really? try it some time.

Chris W. 10-18-2006 07:25 AM

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I've never seen a rifle barrel split like that. I've seen a shot gun barrel or two do something similar, but never to that extent. Genereally, just the first couple of inches from the muzzle peeled back.

Montana Bob 10-18-2006 08:04 AM

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Looks like a Savage Model 110 to me. I wonder if there isn't some type of safety device in that a barrel spliting like that would release it's energy in alldirections instead of a big blow out on one end.
I don't know just a thought.

bigcountry 10-18-2006 08:27 AM

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ORIGINAL: smokeman

I don't think that happened..I think it was ment for a joke pic... That bore sighter would of been blown right out of there with no damage to the barrel..
Not at all, obviously you havn't seen the mistake of someoen getting leaves in a shotgun barrel. believe me, it happens. I split a 410 barrel right down when I was 7.

Red Lion 10-18-2006 12:20 PM

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Well, now the barrel will need to be cut down and used as a pistol.

swamp rooster 10-18-2006 02:01 PM

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Yes it really does that .just like the picture no joke seen first hand at the range buddy down there gettin in big hurry it was a 270 ruger seriously guys he aint and i aint shiitin eiher some dangerous stuff right there when bore sightin at the range make sure you clear your barrel its easy to get to talking to someone and forget .

ShatoDavis 10-18-2006 02:36 PM

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Its no joke I can assure you. That is exactly what happens with bore obstructions. I just pray that no one was hurt.

Hairtrigger 10-18-2006 03:33 PM

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I saw that happen on TV when Bugs Bunny put is finger in Elmer Fudd's shotgun

moosehunter21 10-18-2006 03:36 PM

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That is crazy!

smokeman 10-18-2006 04:36 PM

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I seen myth busters try to mushroom the barrels...They plugged them with dirt and even welded a bolt in the barrel,,nothing signicant happened at all to the barrels....The most that happened was from the welded in bolt was the end of the barrel swelled up....If that is real,I wouldn't own a gun like that...

stubblejumper 10-18-2006 05:19 PM

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I seen myth busters try to mushroom the barrels...They plugged them with dirt and even welded a bolt in the barrel,,nothing signicant happened at all to the barrels....The most that happened was from the welded in bolt was the end of the barrel swelled up...
Have you ever looked at the arbor on a boresighter?Most are expandable with a wedge inside fingers that are forced against the barrel.Most fixed arbors have hollow centers.In either case,when the bullet strikes them,they are forced open rather than out of the barrel.In fact this is howhollow point or ballistic tip bullets expand so rapidly.The cartridge chosen as well as the bullet usedare also factors.
But if youare so surethat this is fake,I am sure that I can come up with a bore sighter arbor for you to install in your rifle,fire it while holding it yourselfand prove everyone wrong.

ARKANSAS 10-18-2006 05:59 PM

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You mean thats not how you use a bore sighter??????????:eek:

uncle matt 10-18-2006 09:20 PM

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I have toremember to put that smokeman on my special list.

stubblejumper 10-18-2006 09:32 PM

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I have toremember to put that smokeman on my special list.
Now why is that,I think that he has the perfect name,he is usually blowing smoke.:D:D



cartman308 10-19-2006 06:09 AM

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I shot my ramrod out of my Remmy 700 ML one time by accident. It kicked like a friggin mule but thing bad happened to the barrel.

I would have to see it happen to believe it.I think the boresiter would have "given" before the barrel...... Just me though.

swamp rooster 10-19-2006 08:20 AM

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I have seen just a little bit of snow blow the side of a 20 ga barrel out ,so if you dont believe its true ill send you an old boresiter so you can do a little myth bustin for yourself then after you buy a new gun you can post your pictures of your blown op one. and the **** stains in your britches...ill need a mailing address .please.

stubblejumper 10-19-2006 09:46 AM

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I think the boresiter would have "given" before the barrel...... Just me though.
Did you not notice that the collet was missing completely?

cartman308 10-21-2006 09:22 PM

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sure i noticed the collet is completely missing. And i understand what some are saying about the collet sealing off the barrel causing a sudden and dramatic increase in pressure. I also notice that there doesn't appear to be any powder residue on the sitter or the spintered barrel. I'm thinking that the sitter would have just blown out the end of the barrel. But yes i do see how it could be possible.

I'm not saying it didn't happen, or that it's not possible. I'm not going to try it myself, i like my guns to much. Even if the barrel didn't split like that you would ruin the rifling at the tip.

like the title says.......don't do this!

Alls i'msaying is that i'd have to see it to believe it

haugenna 10-21-2006 09:42 PM

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As people noted earlier. I am not trying to do this to any of my guns.I would have to see it to believe it.

I have also seen that episode of mythbusters, which is why I am so skeptical. Great show for don't try this at home idiots. From what I remember they plugged the barrel with the following....a replica of the human finger, for those bugs bunny fans, dirt, another bullet of the same caliber, welded a bolt on the end, and I think they jammed some other junk in there as well.All that happend was a bubble in the barrel. They were using an older gun, so maybe the heavier barrels of thepast helped them out.The one thing they didn't do that I would have loved to see them do was hotload the $*it out of a round and then shoot it. Oh that would have been priceless.

Briman 10-22-2006 07:40 AM

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http://www.thegunzone.com/m1akb.html
http://www.thegunzone.com/rifles-kb.html


Yup, barrels never spilt because of pressure:eek:

smokeman 10-22-2006 01:45 PM

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The one thing they didn't do that I would have loved to see them do was hotload the $*it out of a round and then shoot it. Oh that would have been priceless.

I personally know what a double load does to a shot gun....I am just glad my buddy didn't get killed or injured other than knocked out when he pulled the trigger....You will be left with 2 pieces of that gun...Stock and barrel with nothing in between...And as faras the tub drain chain as theprojectileof choice,we have no ideal if it even left the end of the barrel...

cwhitenton 10-22-2006 05:53 PM

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What I don't understand stubble is why are you looking around in other forums? :D

Mr. Longbeard 10-23-2006 06:24 PM

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The way I look at it... If you know anything about bolt action rifles you don't need to stick anything in your bore to bore sight;)

I saw a guy shoot his ram rod down range once... A typical public range butt nugget

cartman308 10-24-2006 05:45 AM

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Longbeard

The way I look at it... If you know anything about bolt action rifles you don't need to stick anything in your bore to bore sight;)

I saw a guy shoot his ram rod down range once... A typical public range butt nugget
easy there pal, i did that once! :D so i guess i resemble that remark. I was younger and dumber then. now i'm just a little older and alot dumber ;)

stubblejumper 10-24-2006 10:07 AM

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The way I look at it... If you know anything about bolt action rifles you don't need to stick anything in your bore to bore sight;)
Then again if you already own a boresighter,it is both quicker and more precise to use it.


Briman 10-25-2006 11:07 AM

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Here's a link I found that should dispell any doubt:

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=128281

ranger140892 10-25-2006 12:35 PM

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Being a Savage barrel certainly may have helped but I've seen it with other rifles. Shotguns and pistols too.

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