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RE: .22-250 vs. .220 Swift

It is no small coincidence that the number of factory loadings for the .220 Swift has shrunk to only a couple,and that the .22-250 is so much more popular. Same situation with respect to the number of factoryrifles chambered for the two calibers -particularly when youconsider how much longer the Swift has been a legitimate factory caliber. I have owned and shot a Swift extensively - still have one in the cabinet that will cloverleaf Ballistic Tips. But when the barrel is shot out I will probably sell the dies.

Get the .22-250.

RE: .22-250 vs. .220 Swift

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ORIGINAL: ShatoDavis

I've owned and shot both. I can tell you that the only place the swift appears to be superior is over the chrono. In real world terms the 2 rounds are identical or nearly so. I love both rounds so don't flame me. For your purpose I would say get the 250 and never look back.

Also, May I suggest you research the 204 ruger. It is a real sweet shooter, though I don't know what you intended purpose is.If youhad caught the reloader bug I would suggest some others like the 20 VarTarg, or 17 MachIV they both are based on the 221 Fireball case. The 221 fireball is a fun gun to own but in no wayclose to the 250 or swift in terms of speed and ballistics. But I digress.

I've looked at the .204. Everything I've read so far leads me to believe that it is a "fad" cartridge. As for now, the stated velocity and trajectory do not out perform the .22-250 or the .220 Swift.

Can you point me to something that says otherwise?

Thanks.

RE: .22-250 vs. .220 Swift

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ORIGINAL: DANTHEHUNTER

My friend I will not argue with you over what you think is the best. All I am saying is if you are going to talk about this you have to be open minded.

Have you actually read the thread?

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ORIGINAL: BrutalAttack
I am all for going with a .220 if someone can prove to me that there is enough performance difference in the factory offerings to justify getting it in place of a .22-250.

Isn't that being openminded?

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ORIGINAL: DANTHEHUNTER

The .220 swift is the varmit rifle most compared to, That tells me it is the one to have .

Just because everyone else thinks it's the best doesn't mean it's the truth.

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ORIGINAL: DANTHEHUNTERIts like having the original ,You just keep saying its only this or only that what does that tell you ? That is a sure sign that you are unsure. I am not saying the .22-250 is'nt a great round ,cause it is, I just dont like it as well as my swift.

Of course I'm unsure. If I was sure I wouldn't be asking a bunch of blow-hards on a internet forum would I? lol ;)

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ORIGINAL: DANTHEHUNTER
On the subject of reloading and factory loads. I totally understand what you are saying about stated factory loads. They have a margin of error built in to there rounds. So what I am telling you, I can and have loaded the swift and the 250. They both load well, I can just get more out of the swift in all grain bullets there is just more case capacity with the swift. I am in no way saying that the 250 isnt good it's just right behind the swift.

Again: you're not understanding. I don't reload so the fact that you can get more out of the Swift means nothing to me. Only the factory loads do.

RE: .22-250 vs. .220 Swift

You shouldnt be asking for our opinions if you are just going to get mad when we show you what the differences are. You dont have to defend the 250 like I said it is a great round it's just behind the swift in performance.If you think we are all blow hards cause some of us disagree with you maybe the thread is misleading , you ask whats the advantage over the 250 I am showing you. I am sorry you dont reload cause that is where you can see the performance of your round shine. So stay in your little world and feel as if you have it all figured out.

RE: .22-250 vs. .220 Swift

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ORIGINAL: DANTHEHUNTER

You shouldnt be asking for our opinions if you are just going to get mad when we show you what the differences are. You dont have to defend the 250 like I said it is a great round it's just behind the swift in performance.If you think we are all blow hards cause some of us disagree with you maybe the thread is misleading , you ask whats the advantage over the 250 I am showing you. I am sorry you dont reload cause that is where you can see the performance of your round shine. So stay in your little world and feel as if you have it all figured out.

No need to get butt-hurt. I'm not angry at all. I just don't understand why you're telling me that I need to have a Swift and reload it when I stated in the begining that I don't reload. Then you don't understand why I ask for another reason to buy a 220 over a 250.

no one can give me one so I guess that is my answer

RE: .22-250 vs. .220 Swift

Get a 220 swift, it killed an antelope at 900 yards with open sight. If you're an accurate shooter, a 220 will be just right. My great-grandpa used factory loads for that shot, and they should work as good fo you too.

RE: .22-250 vs. .220 Swift

Well anything one will do in the field, the other will also do. If the 100 fps is worth the extra mone the you should own a Swift. When we shoot varmit rifles, its usually several hundres rounds per day. This would be darn expensive with the swiflt for a non loader.

RE: .22-250 vs. .220 Swift

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ORIGINAL: younggun243

Get a 220 swift, it killed an antelope at 900 yards with open sight. If you're an accurate shooter, a 220 will be just right. My great-grandpa used factory loads for that shot, and they should work as good fo you too.

that has to be one of the most irresponsible posts i've seen. no self respecting "hunter" should take that sort of shot.

on the plus side, i suspect ol' great grandpa was jerking everybodies chain.

RE: .22-250 vs. .220 Swift

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ORIGINAL: BrutalAttack

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i'm not so sure that the .204 offers no trajectory gain, brutal. since you don't handload, let's look at, say,remingtons ammunition. my catalogue shows they only do a 50g PSP for the swift. zeroed at 200 yards, it's 46 inches low at 500 yards. in .204, they do a 40g accutip boattail that is just 28 inches low at 500 when zeroed in at 200 yards. the 32g accutip v is almost identical.
retained energy is also in favour of the .204. the swift load is carrying just 204 ft-lb at 500 yards. the 40g .204 has held on to 343 ft-lb ( the ballistic co-efficient makes all the diference). so you could mount a case from the remington ballistic tables that the .204 ruger shoots flatter, and hits harder, than the swifty once you get out past 300 yards.

incidently, the remington catalogue also shows a similar advantage for the 22/250 over the swift, largely due to them loading accutip boattails into factory 22/250 loadings.

summary: factory loadings for the 22/250 are vastly better developed than for the swift ( at least from remington). you can get better performance off the shelf from the 250. but, depending on what you think your main usage will be, the 204 ruger can mount a good case too.

RE: .22-250 vs. .220 Swift

and just to round things out, i don't think the .204 ruger is a "fad" cartridge. i think it is a stayer. it offers several tangible benefits, including flat trajectory, low barrel wear and maintained sight picture. unlike something like the .223 wssm - now there's a "fad" round imo.