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Troutman10 08-20-2006 02:18 PM

270 vs. 30-06
 
I'm going to be buying a rifle soon and am leaning towards a 270. What are the main differences between a 270 and 30-06? I know the 30-06 might be a little more powerful than the 270, but the 270 might shoot a little flatter than the 06. What else? Thanks for help in advance.

Rebel Hog 08-20-2006 02:26 PM

RE: 270 vs. 30-06
 

ORIGINAL: Troutman10

I'm going to be buying a rifle soon and am leaning towards a 270. What are the main differences between a 270 and 30-06? I know the 30-06 might be a little more powerful than the 270, but the 270 might shoot a little flatter than the 06. What else? Thanks for help in advance.
6.5mmSwede, 7mmX57 or .270

chiefks 08-20-2006 02:33 PM

RE: 270 vs. 30-06
 
I like the 270 because it kicks less and shoots flatter. But that's not the issues, what you do with the rifle matters. What critters are you planning to hunt with the rifle? What does the area's you hunt in look like? Will you be shooting across open fields or back in the woods?

Troutman10 08-20-2006 03:25 PM

RE: 270 vs. 30-06
 
I'm planning to hunt whitetails with it. I have a rifled shot gun without a scope so I'm looking for something that will shoot farther than my shot gun for distances of 75-100 yrds or more. I'll most likely be shooting in open fields and woods.

TrophyTracker 08-20-2006 03:30 PM

RE: 270 vs. 30-06
 
I agree with chiefks. It really depends on what and where you hunt meaning the size of the game and the average distance of your shot. I have had both, and personally I preferred the 30-06. Where I huntI can find myself hunting for moose, deer or bear at any given time. Therefore I find the flexibility and slightly greater knock down power of the 06 works better for my hunting situations. However both are good calibres, inexpensive shells and good selection of bullets.

uncballers45 08-20-2006 03:50 PM

RE: 270 vs. 30-06
 
ive got the .270 and it works great for me but the 06 isnt bad.

James B 08-20-2006 04:00 PM

RE: 270 vs. 30-06
 
Two great calibers. As you probably know, they use the same case. With the bullets we have today either caliber is a top choice. If its mainly deer then the hands down choice IMO is the 270. Last season I shot nine Mule deer with nine shots from the 270 with 130 grain Federal Fusions. They went nowhere after being hit. I would not hesitate one second to hunt anything but the biggest bears (grizzly and polar), with the 270 and the right bullet. The 30-06 will do everything the 270 will do but the 270 will shoot a bit flatter and kick a little less using 130 grain bullets. As RH said, the 6.5x55, 7mm-08 and 7x57 will do the same job.

chiefks 08-20-2006 05:42 PM

RE: 270 vs. 30-06
 
Either caliber will work well for you. I still opt for the 270 because it kickes less (yes I have a flinching problem) and shoots flatter. You can find ammo for both guns practically any where and its not expensive. 30-06 has more nock down power, but bullet placement wins over nock down every time.


Peronal choice, get what ever floats your boat.

early 08-20-2006 06:23 PM

RE: 270 vs. 30-06
 
you can shoot a heavier bullet in an -06 up to 220grs

with identical weight bullets say 150grs the trajectory should be nearly identical fer both cartridges

i own rifles chambered fer both, i prefer the -06 only cuz the rifle itself is better suited to my needs afield

early


cherokee_outfitters 08-20-2006 07:01 PM

RE: 270 vs. 30-06
 
It's not the size of the bullet but the velocity behind it that wins at long ranges. :D

JagMagMan 08-20-2006 07:11 PM

RE: 270 vs. 30-06
 
I am not a fan of either, but they are both great. The type and weight of the guns and loads will make a difference in recoil. So a light weight .270 may have more felt recoil than a heavy '06. With the exception of shooting heavier bullets better, the '06 doesn't have enough "real world" advantage over the 7MM-08, .270, .280, or the .308 Win. to fret over! Pick one!

Troutman10 08-20-2006 07:12 PM

RE: 270 vs. 30-06
 
Thanks a lot for the help guys. Good hunting!

James B 08-20-2006 07:52 PM

RE: 270 vs. 30-06
 
The 150 grain bullet in the 270 would not be the same as the 30-06. That is because the 150 grain in the 270 has a higher sectional density than the same weoght bullet in a larger diameter.

Rebel Hog 08-20-2006 08:19 PM

RE: 270 vs. 30-06
 

ORIGINAL: James B

The 150 grain bullet in the 270 would not be the same as the 30-06. That is because the 150 grain in the 270 has a higher sectional density than the same weoght bullet in a larger diameter.
This isexactly what I used on 4 different Elk.....270 150gr NP. They all ran 15 to 25 feet and dropped.

early 08-20-2006 08:25 PM

RE: 270 vs. 30-06
 

ORIGINAL: Rebel Hog
This isexactly what I used on 4 different Elk.....270 150gr NP. They all ran 15 to 25 feet and dropped.
same with mine, but the ones i shot with my-06 were almost twice as dead.
the ones my Dad got with his 308 just up and surrendered.

early

semi 08-21-2006 08:48 AM

RE: 270 vs. 30-06
 
if you are hunting whitetails, do yourself a favor and look at a 7mm-08.

rem 700 08-21-2006 09:03 AM

RE: 270 vs. 30-06
 
If you're really worried about 3" or soof drop difference at 400yds then these two shouldn't have been mentioned as choices in the first place, as magnums would've been the only way to go(if you shoot farther you'd better be good enough at shooting sothe drop doesn't matter). Trajectory being knocked off the list as something to worry about, the 30-06 can be shot very cheaply, it being an ex-mil. cartridge, and has a lot more bullet choices at 30 caliber than 27 caliber. Recoil? If you're worried about it go shoot a 243, or put on an inexpensive limbsaver to make it feel like one. The 30-06 has a better rep. for accuracy than the 270; I've never heard of a competition rifle in 270. So you've got my opinion, 30-06.

James B 08-21-2006 10:22 AM

RE: 270 vs. 30-06
 
Now and then I hear stories about the 270 being less accurate than the 30-06. In real life though I have owned several 25-06, 270, 280, 30-06 and 35 Whelen. All use the 30-06 casing and for the life of me, I have never seen any difference in accuracy between any of them. You get the same accuracy differences as you might expect between different rifles but not calibers in my expierence. The lack of competion rifles in 270 is probably due to the lack of different bullet weoghts and match grade bullets. This is certainly not to take anything away from them 30-06 but having used them both, I prefer the 270 for deer hunting. The 270 shoots flat enough to take deer out as far as anyone has any business shooting at game animals. IMO.

Rebel Hog 08-21-2006 10:45 AM

RE: 270 vs. 30-06
 

ORIGINAL: James B

Now and then I hear stories about the 270 being less accurate than the 30-06. In real life though I have owned several 25-06, 270, 280, 30-06 and 35 Whelen. All use the 30-06 casing and for the life of me, I have never seen any difference in accuracy between any of them. You get the same accuracy differences as you might expect between different rifles but not calibers in my experience. The lack of competition rifles in 270 is probably due to the lack of different bullet weights and match grade bullets. This is certainly not to take anything away from them 30-06 but having used them both, I prefer the 270 for deer hunting. The 270 shoots flat enough to take deer out as far as anyone has any business shooting at game animals. IMO.
Hey James, the Swedes won one of the Olympics back in the 60's with 6.5mmSwede.

manitou210 08-21-2006 02:48 PM

RE: 270 vs. 30-06
 
Hello :James B
The 270 is a American favorite, mainly because of a famous hunter and sportsman, writer Jack Oconnor, but he also said the .280 Rem was probably a better cartridge, when Rem brought it out is was under loaded for there auto's and pumps, but when guys loaded for bolt actions it shined. the 06 is a fine cartridge and very hard to beat for a allround cartridge.
But saying all of this and its the year 2006, and the 06's 100 birthday there are better choices today,like other members said 7mm/08 etc.
I built a gun on Rem 700 action in 7mmwsm and there is no .270 or 06 will shoot as flat and more than enough energy for anything in North America, give it a thought or go down the middle with a .280 Rem



Sharp Shooter 08-21-2006 06:37 PM

RE: 270 vs. 30-06
 
I would NEVER shoot a 30-06. The 270 has just as much power. Great rifle. It is my favorite along with the 7mm.

Mike Hill 08-21-2006 06:40 PM

RE: 270 vs. 30-06
 
Americas favorite deer gun the 30-06 100 years as number one can't be wrong. NUF said

Hunter4life81 08-21-2006 06:43 PM

RE: 270 vs. 30-06
 

ORIGINAL: Sharp Shooter

I would NEVER shoot a 30-06. The 270 has just as much power. Great rifle. It is my favorite along with the 7mm.
I agree thats just not my kinda gun..

Anthony T. 08-23-2006 03:58 PM

RE: 270 vs. 30-06
 

ORIGINAL: Sharp Shooter

I would NEVER shoot a 30-06. The 270 has just as much power. Great rifle. It is my favorite along with the 7mm.
Not quite bud. Not quite..

DANTHEHUNTER 08-23-2006 07:44 PM

RE: 270 vs. 30-06
 
Come on guys, Any high power rifle(.243 and up)in the hands of a good shooter will take a whitetail. If He is hit right he will go down.There is no magic to it just good marksmenship. Learn to shoot your perspective rile as good as you can and the rest will take care of its self.

Anthony T. 08-23-2006 10:32 PM

RE: 270 vs. 30-06
 

ORIGINAL: DANTHEHUNTER

Come on guys, Any high power rifle(.243 and up)in the hands of a good shooter will take a whitetail. If He is hit right he will go down.There is no magic to it just good marksmenship. Learn to shoot your perspective rile as good as you can and the rest will take care of its self.
I agree with that^, but who said that a 30-06 or a 270 is over sized for deer? I believe in too much also, and happen to be a pretty decent shot, but anything between 30 and 6.5 mm is a no brainer for deer. I agree that any kind of magnum 27cal and up is really not needed until range comes into affect.


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