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I'm taking I kid I know out shooting and, because I'm ornery, I'm looking for a really hard kicking shotshell for a 12ga 3". The kid thinks he's "all that" if you get my drift, I just wanna give him a good kick in the shoulder.

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Why not a 3.5 turkey load

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gun won't handle a 3.5

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dead coyote's kick pretty hard

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Can't beat a nice 2oz turkey load 3". But I think 1oz sluggers 3" kicks are sharper.

There are some real specialty things on the market that push the envelope with pressure from dixie slugs.

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if you know someone that reloads just get them to jack up a 3 inch slug. i mean fill the dang thing up wih some powder! i shot 3 inch mag slugs in my 12. and it kicked hard at the range. but when i squeezed off on that doe, didnt feel a thing:D

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Have him shoot 3" slugs in a pump.Fully load the gunand have him shoot it one after another as fast as he can, he'll know what I'm talking about. He'll problebly never shoot it like that again.... I didn't.

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I have shot a lot of slugs and turkey loads from my 12 ga and I think full power turkey loads kick the worst. Even my 600 grn brenneke gold magnums don't kick as hard as my winchester turkey loads.

I personally don't think you should do it though. I get a bit upset when people do this because it may ruin someone from shooting, or at least make it very difficult fix flinching and trigger panic problems. However I only weigh around 130 lbs I don't have any trouble shooting these kinds of guns.

That being said if you really want to mess the kid up give him a real light gun like a H&R 12 ga with full power loads. They kick like a mule because of the light weight. Or a 30-06 with a scope, that is a pretty humbling experience if you are not expecting it. Of course you may blind the kid though.

I also agree with the others, if you can find a 3.5 inch 870 or or something that will for sure get his attention. I thought I wanted one until I shot a buddy's. I handed it back to him and thanked him for saving me some money. A bit too much gun for my tastes. I shot it hunting once though and it wasn't that bad really. Rifles never seem to kick as bad in the field.

Paul

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I agree with the Turkey loads. I shot high brass Federal 3" 2's this weekend in my Savage o-u, granted it doesnt have a recoil pad but my shoulder is still a little stiff.

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find a very light gun like the Ithaca M-37.....if you get the drift.....

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Just tell him to stand with his back straight and feet together......

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IMHO, don't do it without him knowing that "this is the stout stuff", even if he "deserves it."
We've got too many "recoil whimps" out there already without going out of our way to create more of them! (especially with rifles)

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How bout some nice partition golds?;););)(3 inchers) will do the trick out of ANY GUN. I know that I can tell the difference between regular slugs and even some large magnum rifles. "AND I WEIGH 260 POUNDS" I also shoot as often as I can. I have a 7mm ultra mag, 300 ultra mag, 338 winchester mag, 300 win mag....plus many others. And i can honestly say that, my marlin 512 loaded with 3 inch, 12 ga partition gold slugs is my least favorite gun to shoot. (This is honest)

I remember one day going to the range and shooting 55 rounds out of it after shooting my 30-06. My arm felt like it was going to fall off.
(I like to shoot as much as possible to illiminate anticipated recoils and flinch. I want to get rid of them so I wont encounter them in the field, where it matters most.)

Ishoot as much as I can and am very comfortable shooting large magnums.
After about 5 shots from the 3 inch partition golds, it starts to hurt and from then on its a mind game for me.

Im sure if this kid is new to shooting or even if he shoots on occasion, the 3 inch partition golds will shake him up a bit.;););)

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If you got a single shot like a NEF or something like a Savage 311 with a hard butt plate let him shoot a 2oz 3" turkey load in that.

I did once and I will never do it again. By far themost painful gun I have ever shot.

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3" rem. buckhammers will get his atention quick.

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Treat him like you would like to be treated. It always pays off in the end.

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Awwwww James, it's always fun to see a smart arse get a good whollop from a gun.

We got an idiot salesman that has an old single shot 3" 12 ga. It was already light enough but he wanted us to cut the barrel to 20 inches, lengthen the forcing cones, install screw in chokes, drill and tap the barrel for a scope mount, and some other stuff. Basically put about $500 in labor into this $100 gun. And bugs us about every day wondering if its finished yet. Like we don't have customers guns to do first.

This gun weighs about 4 - 5 pounds and he wants to use it as a turkey gun.[:o] I test fired it in the tank from my hip (wasn't stupid enough to shoot from the shoulder) after the barrel was cut and the forcing cones lengthened. That gun has more recoil than any gun I have ever test fired. I want to be there with a video camera the first time he pulls the trigger on a 2oz 3" turkey load in that thing. ;) The footage will be priceless.

He was half scared to shoot a 30-378 with a brake on it. That gun aint got nothin on this little 12ga. ;)

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How old is the fella?

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Yes most 3" turkeys will kick good enough!

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I had this done to me at a young age and if I dont really really buckle down when i shoot..I have a flinch to this day.[:@] I cant imagine anything kicking harder than a short barrelled single shot with 3 inch mags...I havea Stevensthat kicks so hard the stock is split. Thing is ridiculous recoiling..

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You sound like a complete tool. How would you like it if the kid came up to you afterwards and gave you a kick in the balls for making him 'ornery?'

If you want to screw with people, do us all a favor and don't do it at the shooting range.[:@]

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I don't recommend high recoil for introductions to shooting. If the kid has an attitude problem, I would work on that before taking him to the range. I fired a 2 & 3/4" magnum load in my dad's Rem #11 as a child. I have never fired anything, to include a 375, that kicked that hard. It was a few years before I tried a shotgun again.

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Goodness gracious, can't people just answer the question?I mean there are alot of thingsI don't like aboutsome of your guys attitudes but you know what, thats your business.

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Thats just plane mean. Let him think he's all that confidence never hurt anyone. It can only help him in the field. I don't think I would ever try to discorage a 12 year old I would do nothing but encourage him. Mike

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It seems to me like any 3" 12-ga shell holding a lot of shot will fill your requirement. Why not a heavy SLUG load? Some of these reach up into .470 Nitro Express recoil levels......./

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The first poster said that it was a kid. Take it from there. Kids have a lot to learn and you have the oppertunity to help him learn, or punish him for what he doesn't know yet. As EKM said, tell him that this is a hard kicking gun that may really get your attention. If he still wants to shoot it, let him have at it.

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The kid is a senior in high school, a little over 6' tall and over 200 lbs. It's not going to knock him over, it'll give him a little surprise. If anyone's under 30, I call him a kid.

I'm not, it's private land, I know the kid, he knows me, anyone else that's down there will know both of us...

3" Turkey loads it is

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Slugs or turkey loads will do it...I shot a 3" out of my friends little NEF 12 gauge that he had sawed the barrel on and I'm 100 lbs. It's not gonna gurt him or anything...but I think slugs are worse.;)

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I dont think a 12 gauge will kick so bad at all, you have to fire 100 rounds just to get warm, its not like we are talking about a Barrett .50. Damm that does kicks. I dont think you can fire that thing if you are not fully on the ground

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I Shot 3 in. turkey mag loads last week.They give the shoulder a workout.

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If you guys want to see some really funny videos of guys shooting big guns to to accuratereloading.com, go to the forums, and watch the videos under the AR Videos forum in the thread titled "The Champions". They are hillarious. It's a bunch of guys tyring to shoot a .577 T-Rex.

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Get you some Fed 2-3/4" D.E. 4-3/4 Extra Range, if you want some kick.

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With some 12 gauge loads getting in the 60+ lbs of recoil range there is nothing easy about them..lol. That 12 gauge Stevens single I have weighs in right at 5 pounds and shoots 3 inch mags. It will tame most anybody after a shot or 3.

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give him a federal mag-shok 2oz turkey load, i shot one one day at the range, i noticed the extreme kick, but i didnt show it. i was there with my brother and i told him that they kicked less than a target load, after he pulled the trigger, he said about every swear word you could think of!!! they arenasty and fun at the same time!

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I've shot some real heavy hitting rifles (.458 Win., .450 AK, .416 Wby.) and nothing compares to a 2 oz. 3" mag. 12 gauge turkey load out of a single shot H&R with a steel butt plate!

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I have one of those NEF's, Your right!!! I have a good pad on it now but its still a brute.:D

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I have a Browning Citori 12 gauge, light weight, no recoil pad,grouse gun with a 24 inch barrel that fells like a 338 win. mag when fired. I hate the thing.

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2oz. 3" turkey load out of a light weight gun. I tried one yesterday in my Daly 12ga. auto, it about knocked me on my butt and I was expecting the whallop!